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powderman · « **on:** January 22, 2011, 01:39:07 PM »

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Letters to Editor—Abortion
http://www.kdhnews.com/news/letters.aspx?r=0
Abortion a contradiction to tradition of Western medicine
To the Editor:

As we recall the anniversary of Roe v. Wade on Jan. 22, the court decision which legalized abortion, I believe it is important to reflect on the tradition of Western medicine.

Western civilization formed the first hospitals and developed a school of medicine. The key to its fruition, however, is not pure chance, but is based upon the fact that each person, rich or poor, young or old, has the right to life.

Yet today, there is a great contradiction: abortion. This contradiction in the practice of Western medicine is responsible for the deaths of over 47 million U.S. children since 1973.

For those who doubt whether or not the unborn child is a true human person, science has given us a number of facts. First, the baby's heart begins beating at the age of 20 days in the womb, with brain waves start occurring at 40 days.

Secondly, by the age of 14 weeks, the entire body surface, except the back and the top of the head, is sensitive to pain. What is more, an unborn child can survive outside of the womb at 21 weeks.

In a nation where it is illegal to harm the unhatched eggs of an eagle, why do we allow for the slaughter of innocent babies, which are more valuable?

Let us hope that America will once again be the champion of Western medicine. Let us hope that she will again protect and defend the right to life, from conception until natural death.

Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 by Charmaine Surprenant, Killeen

Kempner reader contends abortion is un-American
To the Editor:

Abortion is highly un-American and immoral

"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." These three rights are strongly defended and loved by the American people. In fact, we have fought wars and risked lives to protect them.

As we recall the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the court case that legalized abortion, we must ask ourselves: what about the rights of the 47 million babies who have been killed since 1973?

During the Second World War, America helped put an end to the cruel concentration camps in Europe. Yet today, an even greater, silent holocaust is waged within our very own borders.

Every year, over a million babies are aborted. In short, the most fundamental right, that of life, which is the basis of all the others, is being denied to our own people.

Some may ask whether the unborn child is really a human. The answer is yes. Science tells us that the unborn baby has a distinct, unchanging, and unrepeatable genetic code, unique in all of history, from the moment of conception till death.

Many say that a woman has the "right" to choose. And what of the baby's right? Even more, it is illegal in this country to harm the unhatched eggs of an eagle. Why then, is it legal to kill an unborn child, who is more precious than any bird?

Should life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness be denied to our unborn babies? To answer in the affirmative would be highly un-American and simply immoral.

YEP, agreed. POWDERMAN.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:09:47 PM »

Are there times when abortion is justifiably necessary? I believe so. Its the use of, as a method of birth control, that I have a hard time believing that "its okay".

powderman · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:04:25 PM »

PAT/RICK. That is why I refer to the dems as the party of death. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:26:08 PM »

The obamination was just on tv reaffirming his support for a womans right to kill her child. You dems and other pantywetters must be real proud. POWDERMAN.

Dand · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2011, 10:26:06 PM »

Check out Foxx News article:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/22/women-claim-abortions-left-sterile/?test=latestnews

Women Claim Abortions Left Them Sterile

And that's not the worst of it. A few women died. Numerous viable fetuses were killed, venereal diseases spread, bad infections, sepsis, unusual amounts of drugs dispensed - the article is nauseating to read.
The Govt Agencies that were supposed to be inspecting these type of clinics should be sued, indicted or something too, for neglect of duty.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:55:01 AM »

Jesus said, whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me.
I believe that if you vote for someone who advocates abortion, you forfeit your soul.

20 years ago, a little mexican girl in texas who could have chosen abortion, chose to give her baby up for adoption.
that baby has blessed my wife and I in a million ways.

powderman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:51:26 AM »

DAND. Thanks for the link. There are butcher shops like that all over America. I see no reason for our tax $ being spent to inspect these butcher shops, I really don't care if these females have a sterile environment to murder their children. Kinda like going into battle with the goal of killing a baby with nobody to guard it. I believe it only right that a female risk her life too if she hires a killer to murder her baby just because she does not want it.
There are those here who support the party of death, and this is what they vote for and support. Just saying, HEY, I shoot guns does not make up for supporting those who promote murdering children. Dems, the party of death and homosexual rights. POWDERMAN.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:16:49 AM »

Quote from: powderman on January 23, 2011, 03:51:26 AM

DAND. Thanks for the link. There are butcher shops like that all over America. I see no reason for our tax $ being spent to inspect these butcher shops, I really don't care if these females have a sterile environment to murder their children. Kinda like going into battle with the goal of killing a baby with nobody to guard it. I believe it only right that a female risk her life too if she hires a killer to murder her baby just because she does not want it.
There are those here who support the party of death, and this is what they vote for and support. Just saying, HEY, I shoot guns does not make up for supporting those who promote murdering children. Dems, the party of death and homosexual rights. POWDERMAN.

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Junior1942 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:52:07 AM »

Quote from: Pat/Rick on January 22, 2011, 02:09:47 PM

Are there times when abortion is justifiably necessary? I believe so. .....

So do I, but not the prolifers. They don't mind at all letting a mother die so a diseased and deformed fetus can live. When and if they succeed in outlawing all abortions their next step is outlawing all birth control.

bigMikeA · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:53:21 AM »

Quote from: Junior1942 on January 23, 2011, 09:52:07 AM

Quote from: Pat/Rick on January 22, 2011, 02:09:47 PM
Are there times when abortion is justifiably necessary? I believe so. .....
So do I, but not the prolifers. They don't mind at all letting a mother die so a diseased and deformed fetus can live. When and if they succeed in outlawing all abortions their next step is outlawing all birth control.

powderman · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:55:04 AM »

junior. I think thats a big reason you and others hate Sarah Palin so much. She knew about her baby before it was born but instead of hiring a killer she decided to give birth, and love her baby. That family will love, nourish, and cherish that child as if it were normal. Thats why the libs hate her, they're afraid morality might wear off on them. I already posted about a friend who was told that she had to kill her baby but chose not to. Her faith is what allowed both her and the child to live. That was a horrible decision she had to make but her faith made it happen. Agreed, thats not always the case, the decision was hers, and Gods, not the docs. I personally would hate to be forced to advise a loved one in a situation like that. POWDERMAN.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2011, 12:35:33 PM »

Quote from: powderman on January 23, 2011, 11:55:04 AM

junior. I think thats a big reason you and others hate Sarah Palin so much.

I never once said I hate Sarah Palin. I like Sarah Palin, but I think she'd make a bad president.

Quote from: powderman on January 23, 2011, 11:55:04 AM

She knew about her baby before it was born but instead of hiring a killer she decided to give birth, and love her baby. That family will love, nourish, and cherish that child as if it were normal. Thats why the libs hate her, they're afraid morality might wear off on them. ....

Your views are in the minority, powderman. That makes you and your ilk immoral, not moral.

powderman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2011, 12:50:12 PM »

junior. Sounds like you are saying that babies either deformed or with diseases should be killed, now THAT would be immoral. My granddaughter Jadyn was born with a terrible disease and had close to 500 blood transfusions in her 4 + years on this earth, not to mention having 1/2 her stomach removed and 9 inches of her colon when she was 1 1/2 years old. When she isn't sick or hurting she loves life. I reckon youd of put her down like a diseased animal?

?? We all love her as much as if he were normal. The obamination made the statement that nobody in his family would subject themselves to what Sarah was going through, and his daughter would never bear the burden of an out of wedlock child. Gosh, wonder what he meant by that?

? POWDERMAN.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:17:55 PM »

Quote from: powderman on January 23, 2011, 12:50:12 PM

junior. Sounds like you are saying that babies either deformed or with diseases should be killed, now THAT would be immoral. My granddaughter Jadyn was born with a terrible disease and had close to 500 blood transfusions in her 4 + years on this earth, not to mention having 1/2 her stomach removed and 9 inches of her colon when she was 1 1/2 years old. When she isn't sick or hurting she loves life. I reckon youd of put her down like a diseased animal??? We all love her as much as if he were normal. The obamination made the statement that nobody in his family would subject themselves to what Sarah was going through, and his daughter would never bear the burden of an out of wedlock child. Gosh, wonder what he meant by that?? POWDERMAN.

If birthing your granddaughter would have killed your daughter, then what would you advise your daughter to do? You and your ilk would save the granddaughter and kill the daughter. You also want to force the rest of us--via law--to kill our daughters.

Obama never made such statements. You've twisted/spun his words.

lakota · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:05:33 PM »

My personal belief is that abortion is immoral and barbaric-that being said I also believe that the federal government has absolutely NO business in the abortion debate-not legalizing not prohibiting and certainly not funding. I think that this should be a state issue and settled at the ballot box for each state.

I have a problem in general with one person telling someone else what they may or may not do to thier bodies that goes for what someone eats, assisted suicide and as bad as I may feel that it is abortion too.

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:26:58 PM »

junior. You are good at twisting words. I already stated that the woman would have to make the decision for herself, and yes, the obamination did say those things, he was shocked that Sarahs daughter CHOSE to give her out of wedlock baby life, instead of killing it. morality is something dems don't understand, cause they have none. Sounds ta me like you have a guilty conscience about something. POWDERMAN.

bigbird09 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:46:24 PM »

So if a woman get rapped she is immoral if she decided to abort this child because she did not want those circumstances and knows that she may not be able to take care of herself and a child? I am against people going in and getting an abortion just because they can't keep their legs closed and oops gets knocked up. Also there are certain reasons that have been mentioned where if the birth of the baby would kill the mother then I believe they should have that option available.

powderman · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:09:50 PM »

BIGBIRD. There are millions of Americans wanting to adopt a baby. No, the mother is not responsible for being raped, but why murder a child because of the sins of the father?

Have the baby, give it a life, give it up if she doesn't want it, but theres no reason for killing it. One of my wifes boys is the product of a rape. He's a fine young man and we love him. I'm glad she chose to let him live instead of killing him 34 years ago. They are not a blob of tissue, they are living human beings and deserve a chance at life. POWDERMAN.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2011, 02:01:26 AM »

Quote from: powderman on January 23, 2011, 03:26:58 PM

junior. You are good at twisting words. I already stated that the woman would have to make the decision for herself, and yes, the obamination did say those things, he was shocked that Sarahs daughter CHOSE to give her out of wedlock baby life, instead of killing it. morality is something dems don't understand, cause they have none. Sounds ta me like you have a guilty conscience about something. POWDERMAN.

Nope, no guilty conscience here. So it's moral to require a woman to have a baby even if it kills her?

ironglow · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2011, 03:36:21 AM »

A falsehood being perpetrated...
Abortion is something a woman "does with her own body"...Not quite, that baby has a different blood type and has it's own fingerprints very early.
If perchance that baby is a boy..then the mother must be a hermaphrodite.
Never a need to kill a child in such a manner. If a person endorses killing a child with birth defects, where do they stop at..1 year of age, two years of age..where ?
If the mother's life is in danger, one is expected to do their best to save the mother, perhaps even to the point of endangering the child..few will argue that !

Let's be honest though, just how often is it that a child MUST be killed to save the mother's life;... Perhaps .ooo1 percent of the time ? In what way does that 1 in a million case justify the killing of 47 million others since 1973 ?
Perhaps we should have saved the 47 million and dealt with the rare cases on an individual basis..
The most obvious answer, and one few liberals like, is the need for enough self control and personal responsibility so that the 47,000,000 who have already resorted to killing, might never have gotten into such a position in the first place !

powderman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2011, 04:39:31 AM »

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Nope, no guilty conscience here. So it's moral to require a woman to have a baby even if it kills her?

You haven't read a darn thing I've posted and are still making up stories, I've answered that several times. I'll say it again slowly. A w o m a n h a s t o m a k e t h a t d e c i s i o n f o r h e r s e l f. POWDERMAN.

Ruskin · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2011, 04:50:38 AM »

Look up eugenics. See where we are heading. eugenics was supported by Oliver Wendell Holmes in a SC decision which was later found to be wrong.

We exported eugenics to Europe(Hitler).

We can have abortion if it does not take a life. Look up in the Bible the statement in both the old and new testaments "life is in the blood". Remember the statement "his life's blood was flowing from him". I have heard it used to describe a dying person. There is more truth in that statement than we know. Abort away if it can be done without shedding blood. I don't think that is possible. Once a fetus becomes a passenger within the mother's womb life is present. Maybe not as we see it; however, it is life.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2011, 06:27:56 AM »

Quote from: powderman on January 24, 2011, 04:39:31 AM

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Nope, no guilty conscience here. So it's moral to require a woman to have a baby even if it kills her?

You haven't read a darn thing I've posted and are still making up stories, I've answered that several times. I'll say it again slowly. A w o m a n h a s t o m a k e t h a t d e c i s i o n f o r h e r s e l f. POWDERMAN.

I hear you, PM. Now you hear me. You and your cohorts want to remove that decision from women via the power of law. You say you don't, but that's like Nancy Pelosi saying she only wants to register our guns, not confiscate them.

bigbird09 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2011, 06:48:23 AM »

powderman,

i hear your point but what is say it was a young girl say 16-18 know generally they say its bad for girls that yoing to have kids but it happens every day i know, but say shes raped she then has to take the child of her raper to term thats 9 months that she would have to deal with the baby and it would ne hard enough on a girl that young with being raped let alone having the kid even if she did give it up. Now i dont have a problem with it if she can do so with out sever mental and physical implications which can be had given the case you decribed, but i can also atest to the stories that i have read where the girl committed suicided because of this. Another thing that i want to bring up is prenatsl care isnt cheap nietjer is being in the hopital for even a couple days whos is to pay for that the girl? her parents? I know its bad to bring up money when dealing with a human life but why should the stupidity of and ignorate fool put a family into nore hardship then just having there kid raped?

powderman · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2011, 06:58:34 AM »

junior. My new KY Senator, Rand Paul, just stated that roe vs wade was the biggest tragedy in Americas history with over 50 MILLION babies murdered since 1973. YOUR obamination just stated that a woman had the constitutional right to murder her child. Would you please point out where the constitution says that a female has the right to kill her baby?

? Reckon I missed it. Can you even envision 50 MILLION dead babies??? What a horrifying thing to behold. I wonder how many miles they would stretch out to laid head to foot?

YES, they have heads, feet, hands too, just like you and me. They also feel pain, just like us. I saw a video of a baby moving violently in the womb trying to avoid the butchers deadly probing. That is what you support by voting dem, something the dems and the obamination seem proud of. I'm real tired of hearing that a female has the right to control her body. What about the babys rights??? Don't they matter??? How anybody that calls themself a Christian could support the murders of over FIFTY MILLION babies, is beyond me. Christians do NOT support abortion because the child is not wanted. POWDERMAN.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:27:22 AM »

Quote from: powderman on January 24, 2011, 06:58:34 AM

....How anybody that calls themself a Christian could support the murders of over FIFTY MILLION babies, is beyond me. Christians do NOT support abortion because the child is not wanted. POWDERMAN.

Maybe "FIFTY MILLION" blastospheres and fetuses but I doubt even 1,000 babies were aborted in order to save the mothers' lives. How anybody who calls himself a Christian could support the murders of 1,000 mothers is beyond me.

ironglow · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:53:57 AM »

Junior, Junior, Junior...

You must really be torn when it comes time to vote..Democrats want to take your guns,,,Republicans want to save the babies..

Which is more important to you, keeping your guns...or the continued killing of babies ?

If you were correct in your statement that only "blastospheres" or "fetuses" (euphemeisms for babies) were being aborted, why are the Democrats so obsessive aboutabortions being allowed through the third trimester and if they miss them earlier...to kill them while they are being born ?

Bewlow, see a picture of a newborn baby...tell me why Obama as a Chicago politician fought so hard to allow newborns to be left alone in a cold room to die..

powderman · « **Reply #27 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:03:16 AM »

BIGBIRD. Being raped would be a horrible thing for any woman to go through, but killing the baby is no answer. I heard a woman testify in church about killing her baby over 30 years before. She said she cried daily wondering whether she would now have a son, or daughter and whether she would now have grandchildren. She wondered whether it could have been a dr, or lawyer, policeman, judge, maybe even a preacher. This had eaten away at her for over 30 years. To kill the baby because of rape when it was a normal pregnancy would put the girl in a position of a killer, believe me, it would eat away at her the rest of her life. Take it to term, give it up for adoption. Why punish the innocent child?

All 50 million of these dead babies were human beings that could have had normal productive lives.
junior. The term fetus is a term the pro death people use, sounds better to lie and say, I terminated my fetus, than saying I killed my baby. Nobody but you is saying anything about murdering mothers. Like most pro death folks, you keep twisting words and truth. These butcher shops are there for the almighty $, period. They sell dead babies for tissue and experiments. They get thousands from the females that hire them, kinda like legal hit men, even more from selling the dead babies. It's all about money. Call them whatever ya want, but killing babies is murder and there will come a day when these females and the butchers will see God face to face and saying OOOOOOPPPPPSSSSS, aint gonna do it for them. If you plant a field of corn and it drowns out, did you lose a crop of corn?

? Or what??? POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:22:15 AM »

Junior;
Just in case you had any doubts:

http://www.lifenews.com/2008/07/09/nat-4034/

"The only thing necessary for EVIL to prevail, is that good men do NOTHING". (Edmund Burke)

DDZ · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:48:31 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on January 24, 2011, 03:36:21 AM

A falsehood being perpetrated...
Abortion is something a woman "does with her own body"...Not quite, that baby has a different blood type and has it's own fingerprints very early.
If perchance that baby is a boy..then the mother must be a hermaphrodite.
Never a need to kill a child in such a manner. If a person endorses killing a child with birth defects, where do they stop at..1 year of age, two years of age..where ?
If the mother's life is in danger, one is expected to do their best to save the mother, perhaps even to the point of endangering the child..few will argue that !

Let's be honest though, just how often is it that a child MUST be killed to save the mother's life;... Perhaps .ooo1 percent of the time ? In what way does that 1 in a million case justify the killing of 47 million others since 1973 ?
Perhaps we should have saved the 47 million and dealt with the rare cases on an individual basis..
The most obvious answer, and one few liberals like, is the need for enough self control and personal responsibility so that the 47,000,000 who have already resorted to killing, might never have gotten into such a position in the first place !

One of the pro abortionist's favorite saying is "we can't tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body" This statement makes no sense what so ever. It isn't about the mothers body, its about the life in her body. I wonder at what point the human being inside her, gives up their right to life. Think about it! Can someone tell us when that happens?
Another one of their favorites is. "what if the mother will die if she carries the baby to term" This happens in such a small percentage of the time, as IG stated, its not even worth talking about, but yet the pro death camp pounds the drum for a mother's safety, like its really an issue. This is 2011 and modern medicine has advanced to the point where you can say its very rare for an expecting mother to be in danger of dying.
I guess these talking points are the only arguments the pro death camp has, to carry on the slaughter. No matter how lame they are.

Here is a link to a testimony from person who survived an abortion. I had posted it before, but if you didn't see it, watch it. Its a very powerful testimony. There are two parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ