Author Topic: Handi/Wizard (Read 12604 times)

Rodland · « **Reply #60 on:** March 31, 2011, 04:43:12 AM »

A question. What is the purpose of the hanger bar?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #61 on:** March 31, 2011, 06:34:23 AM »

Haven't shot it yet, I need to proof it and make sure the barrel will stand the modification and work on the H&R frame, to do that I need to shoot it remotely and the range won't allow me to do that, so I have to wait until the snow goes away up in the mountains to shoot it there.

The hanger bar floats more of the barrel, Stratton Custom hanger bars are very popular TC Encores and Contenders.

Tim

mannyrock · « **Reply #62 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:10:38 PM »

Er, sorry for asking such a silly Bubba question, but couldn't you just take a four inch section of a shot gun barrel, split in half like a canoe, and put about 1/2 inch of JB Weld in it, and then just push it gently onto the underside of theRossi barrel, wipe or cut off the excess paste around the outer edge of the split piece, and then just let it set up for two days?

Wouldn't that give you a solid hanger you could tap a hole in, to mount the forearm?

Just askin.

Mannyrock

goofyoldfart · « **Reply #63 on:** April 01, 2011, 07:44:41 AM »

Tim: thanks for the reply. I will/would be interested in the results.

Mannyrock: I think that is a quite plausible application. I think that the answer to the split barrel would be to weld a couple of short (5/16ths or 3/8ths in) little barrels or nuts that are threaded, to the split piece BEFORE using the JB weld. Or use industrial grade Devcon resin. Either one would probably be more than adequate if used full length. Also wonder about high strength Loc-Tite ? Welding on the 3/8ths or 1/2 barrel (should we call it a band?) Band would not affect the structural integrity of the barrel itself. Somewhere I have a 10 inch section that I cut off of a 28" win 1300 pump gun for a friend and I just happen to have an H&R 12gauge single shot that has a broken mounting stud. this may be the simple answer for me to repair it, providing that I can find that piece of barrel

. also, I could try the same style of hanger system for it similar to the one that Tim is using (without double doveing as I don't have a mill--just letting the nuts or little barrels that are threaded act as my "doves"). I would be able to put the half part just in front of the chamber. OR, I could use a two inch section with one barrel or nut to replace the mounting stud that was broken. right now the forearm is being held on with two bands of black self-vulcanizing double wrapped and tightly stretched electrical tape. If that is holding it in place as well as it is, I'm a'thinkin that Devcon or Loc-Tite will surely do the job on the 12ga. Now on a hard recoiling rifle ------Hmmm, don't really know.

What do you think Tim?

God Bless to all.

Goofy(oldfart) aka GOF

quickdtoo · « **Reply #64 on:** April 01, 2011, 07:54:02 AM »

There are lots of ways to bubba a barrel to work, there have been members here that epoxied their home made stub barrels together, whatever works.

Tim

bikerbeans · « **Reply #65 on:** April 01, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on April 01, 2011, 07:54:02 AM

There are lots of ways to bubba a barrel to work, there have been members here that epoxied their home made stub barrels together, whatever works.

Tim

don't forget the bailin' wire & duct tape.

BB

quickdtoo · « **Reply #66 on:** April 01, 2011, 03:58:59 PM »

mechanic · « **Reply #67 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:11:56 PM »

You mean epoxy is "bubbaing"? What then may I ask is duct tape? Us rednecks think epoxy is high class!

Ben

quickdtoo · « **Reply #68 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:20:19 PM »

There's varying degrees of bubbaing, epoxy is classified in advanced bubbaing, only for the more skilled bubbas, it has two parts, ya know!

Tim

billy_56081 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:43:56 PM »

I have an epoxied and tack welded stub 357 works like a charm.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #70 on:** April 02, 2011, 05:35:07 AM »

'Redneck' Epoxy:
A cutoff beer can for a mixing container
Fill 1/3 full of laquer thinner (available from the stock car guy down the road)
On the way back walk the ditch to pick up styrofoam cups, etc.
Bust up the cups into small chunks and start mixing them into the LT, they will disolve in
Add and mix until you get the consistency you need
BTW, smokin' over the LT is not recommended but in some circles seems to be mandatory
Good Gluin'......

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #71 on:** April 02, 2011, 06:46:30 AM »

Now that is a true two part redneck glue! Not only does it stick but it removes facial hair or plumbers crack hair while exposed to fire

goofyoldfart · « **Reply #72 on:** April 02, 2011, 05:27:41 PM »

Quote from: bikerbeans on April 01, 2011, 03:57:00 PM

Quote from: quickdtoo on April 01, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
There are lots of ways to bubba a barrel to work, there have been members here that epoxied their home made stub barrels together, whatever works.

Tim

don't forget the bailin' wire & duct tape.

BB : now that was really uncalled for

, as well you know that the baillin' wire will scratch the finish if you don't use the duck tape first!!! In "advanced Bubbaing 101" they tell you the new way is to use self bonding rubber electrical tape so as not to leave the sticky stuff on the barrel before you use the baillin" wire, So there.

bikerbeans · « **Reply #73 on:** April 03, 2011, 03:49:59 AM »

Quote from: goofyoldfart on April 02, 2011, 05:27:41 PM

Quote from: bikerbeans on April 01, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: quickdtoo on April 01, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
There are lots of ways to bubba a barrel to work, there have been members here that epoxied their home made stub barrels together, whatever works.

Tim

don't forget the bailin' wire & duct tape.

BB : now that was really uncalled for , as well you know that the baillin' wire will scratch the finish if you don't use the duck tape first!!! In "advanced Bubbaing 101" they tell you the new way is to use self bonding rubber electrical tape so as not to leave the sticky stuff on the barrel before you use the baillin" wire, So there.

,

GOF,

I have seen people during deer gun season with duct tape and/or bailin' wire on the stocks of old break openin' shotguns. IF it works and helps put meat on the table that is great in my book. I have also seen these same "repaired" guns for sale at a local gun show with a $100 asking price. If I had been at the show by myself I might have bought one for a "wall hanger" but my hunting buddy was with me and he would have never let me live it down.

BB

mechanic · « **Reply #74 on:** April 03, 2011, 04:53:48 AM »

My old model 48 full choke came complete with wire and tape. Wire on the stock which was broken, and tape on the fore end which would fall off. For $35.00 I ain't complaining. It looks and shoots great now.

Tim, however is starting a new trend. We can have Handi Wizards, Handi Revelations, Handi Rugers....the sky is the limit. Of course Mr. Quick does his the right way and forgoes the duct tape.

Ben

danwolla · « **Reply #75 on:** December 10, 2011, 01:58:51 PM »

Just curious if there has been any update on the handi/wizard. I did see the report of the proof test 200gr/rl22 w/ 2.5" groups. Just wandering if any more has been done or said.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #76 on:** December 10, 2011, 02:04:53 PM »

Nope, just the one range trip.

Tim

goofyoldfart · « **Reply #77 on:** January 08, 2012, 05:56:43 PM »

BB, Tim Et Al: just love the way we can "yank each others chains". hope ya'll had a great Christmas and a very good New Year. God Bless to all for the new year.

Goofy <aka GOF,goofyoldfart and Godfrey>

nanuk-O-dah-Nort · « **Reply #78 on:** January 16, 2012, 01:49:00 PM »

Quote from: Brian56 on January 27, 2011, 09:43:10 PM

Good going Tim! I didn't know that a Rossi barrel would fit on a Handi. Please send some photo's and a range report when your done. oh, by the way we still have (40) 7.62X39 barrels left.
part# FR03490.

Brian@Remington:

too bad we can't get barrels up in Canada.
No one brings them in due to cost... I enquired and the cost was over $350 Before TAXES

cjrjck · « **Reply #79 on:** January 16, 2012, 03:27:29 PM »

too bad we can't get barrels up in Canada.
No one brings them in due to cost... I enquired and the cost was over $350 Before TAXES

Why so much? I imagine the Customs duties would not be very much so the rest are fees or special taxes of some kind?

ratdog · « **Reply #80 on:** January 16, 2012, 07:09:52 PM »

i am going to totally ignore all your talk about rossie's i don't need another obsession.

frogtog · « **Reply #81 on:** May 16, 2012, 12:43:25 PM »

Any updates on eleswaperaoo on the Handi? Quicktdoo? Tknx

quickdtoo · « **Reply #82 on:** May 16, 2012, 01:01:23 PM »

That would be a Rossi Wizard, not a CVA, the Wizard 30-06 barrel worked fine on an SB2 frame with the one load I tried, the 7.62x39 barrel didn't come close to fitting on the same frame with the identical shim, makes me wonder how in the world they interchange on a Wizard!!

Not only did it not fit, they changed it to an extractor, 30-06 was an ejector. $:-\$

Tim

frogtog · « **Reply #83 on:** May 16, 2012, 01:25:40 PM »

Thanks Quick sr. moment on the CVA, got to get me a max or a Ruski/39 when I can leave those dang savages alone,fixin to plumb a 6mm ai!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #84 on:** May 16, 2012, 01:28:56 PM »

Check with Brian56, H&R did have some 7.62x39 accessory barrels in stock not too long ago.

Tim

Ganjiro · « **Reply #85 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:48:21 PM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on May 16, 2012, 01:01:23 PM

...the 7.62x39 barrel didn't come close to fitting on the same frame with the identical shim, makes me wonder how in the world they interchange on a Wizard!! Not only did it not fit, they changed it to an extractor, 30-06 was an ejector. $:-\$

Tim

Aw Tim you burst my bubble, I was getting all excited about ordering a 7.62x39 Wizard barrel for my SB2 framed .223 to have a poor man's 30/30. Do you know if the Wizard barrel is .311 or .308? I am assuming the H&R barrels are .308. I want to shoot cheap Russian .311 diameter rounds as well as surplus rounds or the barrel not wort it for me. Thanks allot for all your research!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #86 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:21:46 AM »

7.62x39 Handis are .310"-.311", dunno what the Wizard barrel is.

Tim

nanuk-O-dah-Nort · « **Reply #87 on:** June 22, 2012, 06:49:37 PM »

Quote from: cjrjck on January 16, 2012, 03:27:29 PM

too bad we can't get barrels up in Canada.
No one brings them in due to cost... I enquired and the cost was over $350 Before TAXES

Why so much? I imagine the Customs duties would not be very much so the rest are fees or special taxes of some kind?

The added cost is the DHS fees or something like that... adds $200 to a barrel, unless they bring in a whole bunch, and they don't seem to want to do that...

sorry for the Late posting!