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Offline jmortimer

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Henry for Self-Defense
« on: January 31, 2011, 03:47:00 PM »
Have always want to own a few Henry lever actions including .45 Colt and .357 mag. With no loading gate it seems that you would have a big delay when empty. I know 10 rounds is a lot of firepower in .45 Colt but when your out reloading would take a while with no loading gate. Is my concern unfounded? Thanks
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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 03:54:39 PM »
when  is the last time you  knew of some one running  out of ammo and having to reload in a hurry

get the gun  you want to play with and get real familiar with  and have confidence  in

if  you run out of  bullets in a fire fight......do you really shoot   THAT  bad?

you  will  have  6  more  rounds  in your  single action revolver   [s  each]


this is not a gun  to spray and prey
this  is a gun to lay and wait......thats  all  i want....any thing  else  is too dangerous
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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 12:06:08 AM »
Actually, in my opinion, a levergun is best suited for hunting or target shooting. If you need a self defence gun I think a shotgun is best suited for this application. You can set it it up with a laser and flashlight for any night intrusions along with a pistol grip type stock for quick handling. A shotgun will normally only give you five shots but if the intruder hasn't been neutralized by then, RUN!!!!
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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 05:15:38 AM »
yes the shot gun  is better

5  shot shells .... vs....    10  45lc

i would take the  shot gun.......but it really wont matter

and  like he said......don't worry about reloading.........''RUN''

are you  going to get a slf defence  cun  and  probly  NEVER  really use it
or you getting a NEW  TOY  that you will be familier with  IF   you need it

you  only concern  should be.......45 lc  or  357  mag......and  i say357 mag

why ?...........beacause  38s  are  soooooooo cheap    and  357s  shoot flatter


also  357  has  97% one shot stop rate  in a handgun
can  only be enhanced in your rifle.....357 rifle  is quite powerful...and much quieter
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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 09:34:06 AM »
Funny, people will ask, is a 357 mag revolver a good home defense gun? Answer is yes.

Ask the same thing about a rifle and everyone immediately says shotgun. Go figure.

My only suggestion would be to have the barrel cut back to 17-18 inches.

Most crooks leave when the bullets start flying. It's only the real whackos that stick around.

BTW you can get rails for lever guns to mount lasers and flashlights on
Look at the bottom of this page
http://www.wildwestguns.com/accessories.html

Other companies make them too.

Type tactical lever gun in google. Lot's of hits.

Check out the discussion in the downrange tv forum about perceptions when you go to court. It's one more point to think about. Check the posts by rjsixgun and Michael Bane
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=1085.60

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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 12:40:49 PM »
Consider this - if you were a cavalryman in 1865 and had an original Henry or a Spencer carbine you would have thought you were exceedingly well armed!

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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 03:33:57 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Basically what I was thinking. Col. Cooper recommended a levergun as a "Brooklyn Assult Rifle" and recommended it for self defense. I agree, as I stated that the gun has a lot of firepower to begin with. One thing I like about shotguns is that you can top them off as you go.  Thanks for the replies I would rather get a Henry and support Henry as a family run business that is made in the USA and customer service is fantastic.
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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 02:58:19 PM »
With the 357 you could load 38 Spl +P rounds. They take the fight rite out of a guy. With one in the chamber, you could have 11 in spares the tube. I think most bad guys are going to run at round one.

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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2011, 03:42:21 PM »
Just my humble two cents...

In all fairness I have never owned, and have scarcely handled a Henry (yet) so, I'm only speaking in the broadest of concepts here.  I have owned my share of 1894, and 1895 Marlins, a couple of Rossi's, and a smattering of Winchesters.

I personally believe the lever action is more than adequate for general defense.  Obviously, a shotgun has it's strengths...and it's limitations once the range exceeds 25 yards.  If your rifle cartridges match your revolver cartridges...well..that's a bonus too.

When I was a kid in Georgia I had an 1894 that served similar duty.  It took care of wild dogs, snakes, opossum, put venison on the table, etc.  I have no reason to believe it wouldn't have worked just fine for bi-peds also.

the loading through the mag tube idiosyncracy of the Henry rifle doesn't strike me as a bad thing.  I've had three lever actions ever fail on me.  One was a busted feed ramp on a Winchester 94 because I was running it like a maniac.  Pure negligence and abuse.  The other two were on my Marlins when I had cartridges "jump" past the feed ramp upon recoil.  I would then have to find a small screw driver, knifeblade, etc. and gently ease the cartridge back forward by the very edge of a rim.  A time consuming, ugly inconvenience at the range, but definitely a terrible thing to happen when the shooting means something.

The Henry...lacking a feedgate, it seems would alleviate any chance of this ugly situation.  Further more, eight to ten shots is really plenty for any of us Silly-vilians that aint kickin' in doors for a living or anything of that nature.  What are those statistics?  like ninety something percent of gun fights end without a shot being fired, and some other huge percentage end in one or two shots?

Seems to me that if you find yourself in a situation that requires more rounds than that Henry would hold, you need to be running fast and finding some adequate cover anyways.  Futhermore, you'd likely be so damn jacked up on adrenaline, I don't know that you'd have the fine motor skills to slip cartridges past a loading gate with significantly more efficiency anyways.

In addition, it occurs to me that even though the obvious first requirement is to SURVIVE an armed confrontation...once I were in front of a "Jury of my peers" I'd feel alot better with a Henry being displayed by the Prosecutor than the latest, Greatest AR-15 clone.

So...just my rambling two cents and opinion.  Good luck to you, whatever you decide.

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Re: Henry for Self-Defense
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 11:49:28 AM »
If you get in a bind you can always load a single into the ejection port to dispatch the oncoming Bad Guy. Have a couple between your fingers in case there is more than one BG!

This is hard on the extractor though so don't do it routinely.
Alan