Author Topic: Start of a Stevens 200 Action into a 358 Winchester. Udated 2/04/2012 (Read 7215 times)

JesterGrin · « **on:** February 10, 2011, 08:59:49 PM »

This is just a start as I need a few more funds for the action but I have two main parts lol. The Shaw 358 Winchester barrel in 1-14 twist heavy mag contour that was cut down from 24 inches to 20 inches. It has a .349 by .358 bore which should work great with cast bullets. I plan to coat the action and parts with Dura Coat Titanium Silver.

And a Boyd's Thumb Hole stock in Forest Camo. And yes the barrel channel will have to be opened up a bit

. Also will add pillars to stabilize the puny rifle lol.

336SC · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2011, 01:04:56 AM »

You are gonna like that 358 Win when you are done! I have an 18.5" barreled 358 Win pump and I'm still getting
over 2400fps with a 200gr bullet! Lots of thump on deer too!
336SC

JesterGrin · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2011, 12:08:46 PM »

As for bullets for the 358 Win I plan to use mostly my own cast bullets which are from BRP 360-220 GC mould.

For break in and maybe some hunting I will probably use the Speer 250 Gr Hot-Core as I would like to keep the same bullets for both the 35 Whelen and 358 Winchester.

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As for brass I have a few hundred LC89 .308 MATCH brass on the way to change into the .358 Winchester.

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dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2011, 05:03:36 PM »

Kinda kickin this around, too. Can't make my mind up between the 358 or the 338 Fed. I have other rifles in both and they are both excellent cartridges. Glad to see ya over here on GBO JesterGrin. DP

JesterGrin · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2011, 08:07:19 AM »

Dpe since you have both I am sure it is a hard decision.

I tend to like the 35's due to easy brass availability both in factory brass and easy to form brass. Plus the very wide selection of bullets from pistol bullets to rifle bullets from 180Gr to over 300Gr in both Cast and Jacketed.

It was not an easy decision for me to get away from the norm on cartridges and I have to say I read on the 358 Winchester and 35 Whelen till I almost went blind lol.

As at first on the 358 Winchester and the 35 Whelen I was just looking at info in reloading books which did not look all that impressive. But then I really took a hard look at the info and found that the loading pressures in say the Lyman 48th edition were kinda low for a modern rifle of around 49 to 50,000. But if you do reload you can load up to 60 to 62,OOO and with all of the great info on forums to confirm this along with some articles by say Chuck Hawks and others I have found that in this instance the 35 Whelen can be made from a mild rabbit getter to a Rampaging THUMPER.

And all done in the Ole 30-06 sized case. Maybe they should have called the 35 Whelen the 35 Magnum and it would have sold like hot cakes lol. Who knows

JesterGrin · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2011, 08:34:39 PM »

Well due to this. http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,227969.new.html#new

I have decided not to use a Marlin XS-7 Short Action for my build. Instead I purchased a Stevens 200 in a Short Action for my build. The only downside if you can call it that is I need to get another stock to fit the Stevens 200/Savage 10 Action.

Another plus is that Academy Sports and outdoors have them on sale for $179.00. Hard to beat that with a dimpled bat lol.

FW Conch · « **Reply #6 on:** February 18, 2011, 08:17:42 AM »

Is that Academy sale still going on ? Which stores ?

JesterGrin · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2011, 08:36:02 AM »

I picked mine up yesterday. So Yes I think it is. It will not show it on there web site since they are closing them out. So I would call your local Academy to ask.

Here you can find where they are. http://www.academy.com/index.php?page=content&target=company/locator/map&lnkSRC=Header

Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Lousiana
Mississippi
Missouri
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Tennessee
TEXAS

JesterGrin · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2011, 10:17:36 PM »

Ok adding some info since this is going to be slow lol.

Due to the action change for the .358 Winchester build I got the Boyd's Ross FT Savage 10 Blind MAG Short Action Staggered Feed Limited Harvest. Since it will have pillars installed then it can be easily set up at that time for the 4.40 action spacing.

rickt300 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2011, 08:52:17 AM »

I have a Savage 200 long action, is it hard to change it over to staggered feed? What parts do I need other than a stock to make this work?

JesterGrin · « **Reply #10 on:** April 25, 2011, 10:01:32 PM »

The Stock Came in.

. This will be a long and slow thread but I will update when I have something.

And I also made a new bolt handle.

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JesterGrin · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2011, 06:08:21 PM »

All Metal parts will be coated with Dura-Coat Titanium.

JesterGrin · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2011, 04:10:04 PM »

Just a bit of an update on the Slow build.

rickt300 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2011, 08:12:05 PM »

Looks like your moving faster on your build than most of us do!

JesterGrin · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2011, 09:24:33 PM »

Rick I felt that HOT Poker lol.

Dangerous Dan is building it for me and I do not rush a good thing.

From the response I am not sure anyone is interested but as I said when I have something new on the build I will be sure to post it.

There is no recoil pad on it since the one supplied by BOYD'S is pretty useless. So he is going to use a Grind to fit Recoil Pad not sure which one at this time. But I do know it is Not going to be a limbsaver.

JWP58 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:04:49 AM »

looks like an awesome project! looking forward to seeing it done!

I this project really has my gears turning. A stevens 200 in 358win in a scout config w/ aimpoint micro (mounted on something like an XS scout mount) would make an awesome all around hunter....

How do you think the 358 would preform out of an 18" barrel?

JesterGrin · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2011, 08:31:04 AM »

For the 18 inch barrel I would suggest reading this. http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/index.php/topic,90295.0.html

It looks like he is doing very well.

rickt300 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2011, 10:52:22 PM »

My 35 Whelen was supposed to be a 358 but the pieces for building the Whelen were easier to come by. I had a Mauser 98, a gunsmith with a reamer and the 35 Whelen barrel was on sale for $79. No regrets though the Whelen is a fine cartridge that I load "down" to top 358 levels. My 358 experience was in a old steel frame Browning BLR. I would give IMR 3031 first try if I had a new 358 to fool with. It worked great for me with bullets 200 to 250 grains in weight and wasn't bad in the powder compression arena. Unlike 748. I found I really didn't need any more speed than 3031 could deliver on big hogs and deer. I really liked the Remington 200 gr. round nosed corelokts on deer and the 250 gr. Speer on hogs.

JWP58 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 26, 2011, 03:58:40 PM »

Any update? Have you shot it?

JesterGrin · « **Reply #19 on:** October 26, 2011, 08:09:31 PM »

Quote from: JWP58 on October 26, 2011, 03:58:40 PM

Any update? Have you shot it?

Nope not as of yet. I hope to have it in the next few weeks if all goes well. Then I can mount a scope and take it to the range.

For the first outing I may try some Speer 250Gr Hot-Core since that is what I have on hand.

Anduril · « **Reply #20 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:04:23 PM »

Quote from: JesterGrin on October 26, 2011, 08:09:31 PM

Quote from: JWP58 on October 26, 2011, 03:58:40 PM
Any update? Have you shot it?

Nope not as of yet. I hope to have it in the next few weeks if all goes well. Then I can mount a scope and take it to the range.

For the first outing I may try some Speer 250Gr Hot-Core since that is what I have on hand.

and ............. ?
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JesterGrin · « **Reply #21 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:47:00 PM »

There will be an And as soon as I get it in my hands. Believe me I am more anxious than everyone else lol.

Blackhawk44 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 27, 2012, 06:50:34 PM »

TAC is reported to have almost magical powers in a .358.

336SC · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2012, 09:45:28 AM »

TAC is almost magical in the .358 Winchester. Tried it in my Ruger Hawkeye .358 Win after reading an article in "Handloader" magazine a while back. Worked up to their listed loads and got 2671fps with the 200gr HDY RN bullet. The 250gr HDY RN bullet went 2404fps. Both those loads exceed the factory loads tried in my .35 Whelen's. I'm not using those loads for hunting as our White-
tail deer don't need that much killing power. I just tried TAC as an experiment after reading that "Handloader" article.
336SC

mo_bio · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2012, 04:23:51 PM »

I had the same idea. Mine started life as a stevens 200 in .270 that was just not working. Here is what it turned into. 338-06 and love it. I hope yours does as well as this one. It is a true 1 holer at 100.

RevJim · « **Reply #25 on:** February 04, 2012, 04:14:14 AM »

Hey Jestergrin, I'm curious about your choice of bolt handle? It sure seems long to me. The way I use a bolt gun, I like the knob in my palm and a shorter bolt seems a little more natural. I also would not want to try and slide that long bolt handle in and out of a tight scabbard or gun case. I am not knocking your choice, just curious.

nomosendero · « **Reply #26 on:** February 04, 2012, 06:06:05 AM »

Quote from: mo_bio on February 03, 2012, 04:23:51 PM

I had the same idea. Mine started life as a stevens 200 in .270 that was just not working. Here is what it turned into. 338-06 and love it. I hope yours does as well as this one. It is a true 1 holer at 100.

nice rifle

JesterGrin · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2012, 10:01:22 AM »

Started as a Steven's 200 7mm-08 Center Feed then an Adams and Bennett barrel made by Shaw was purchased in 358 Winchester that was shortened to 20 inches with a Target Crown then all the parts were Bead Blasted and the gun was Duracoated with Titanium Silver. The Action Lugs were Trued and lapped and Blueprinted. Trigger was completely reworked and was set at 1 Pound 12 Ounces average. The BOYD'S Thumb Hole Stock in there limited Harvest had Pillars added and the action Saddles were Squared. The Stock was Bedded with Bedrock bedding.

The Scope and Rings will not remain. As the builder wishes to fire a few rounds through it to check his handiwork.

Not sure of a Scope yet but thinking about a Redfield.

JesterGrin · « **Reply #28 on:** February 04, 2012, 10:03:58 AM »

Quote from: RevJim on February 04, 2012, 04:14:14 AM

Hey Jestergrin, I'm curious about your choice of bolt handle? It sure seems long to me. The way I use a bolt gun, I like the knob in my palm and a shorter bolt seems a little more natural. I also would not want to try and slide that long bolt handle in and out of a tight scabbard or gun case. I am not knocking your choice, just curious.

RevJim I am also not sure about it. It is the first Bolt Handle that I have made. I wished it to be larger in case of cold hands or gloves.

And you are right in a case of probably any sort I will have to remove the bolt handle and pack it. But I will see how it works out. I can always make another one lol.

JesterGrin · « **Reply #29 on:** February 04, 2012, 10:05:05 AM »

Quote from: nomosendero on February 04, 2012, 06:06:05 AM

Quote from: mo_bio on February 03, 2012, 04:23:51 PM
I had the same idea. Mine started life as a stevens 200 in .270 that was just not working. Here is what it turned into. 338-06 and love it. I hope yours does as well as this one. It is a true 1 holer at 100.

nice rifle

Thank You Very Much.