Break the law, or I'll arrest you.

[powderman]

http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/2011/february/205650/Florida-drivers-could-soon-get-a-ticket-for-driving-too-slowly





Fla considering a bill to fine drivers driving too slowly. POWDERMAN. 

[Old Syko]

Driving too slowly is just as big of a problem as driving too fast and should be treated as such.  Driving in the left lane for long periods without overtaking anyone should be treated as a major moving violation.  Too many don't understand the rules of the road these days.  Combine this with the lack of respect people have in general for others and you end up with the driving clusters we deal with everyday.  Drive only in the right lane and pass only in the left.  It's been this way since the beginning of multilane highways.   If you don't understand it, maybe a revocation of privileges is in order. 

[lakota]

I dont know-It sort of sounds like a good idea to me even if it is an attempt to legislate common courtesy. The left lane on a freeway should be for passing only. If someone wants to drive in the left lane and match the speed of the traffic in the right lane they should just drive in the right lane.

They have similar rules on the Autobahn in Germany and they also prohibit passing on the right.

I dont know how it is in the rest of the U.S. but there are a few metro areas around here that have minimum speeds posted along with the speed limit on the innercity portions of the freeway. I have heard they give tickets for driving slower than the minimum.

[guzzijohn]

Makes sense to me. Is there a problem with it that I don't see? My other poet peeve is people that stop at the end of an entrance ramp instead of blending in with traffic.
GliderJohn

[powderman]

OLD SYKO. I agree, but  you have to admit it's a bit strange to get a ticket for NOT speeding. POWDERMAN. 

[yooper77]

Unfortunately I have driven from Charleston, SC to Tampa Bay, FL and I can honestly say never again. Too many people camp in the left lane to include law enforcement.

The thing is about people stopping and not blending in with traffic at the end of an entrance ramp. The traffic will not move over for the people to properly merge, so not entirely their fault.

I say start issuing tickets.

yooper77

[Graybeard]

Wow you guys are falling right in line like good little sheeple. You've been brain washed to accept the NWO thinking that the correct answer to every question is another law that limits the freedom and liberty of US citizens.

We don't need more laws we need fewer laws and more common sense.

[powderman]

We don't need more laws we need fewer laws and more common sense.




Exactly. POWDERMAN. 

[Ron 1]

We don't need more laws we need fewer laws and more common sense.
         rw

[Shu]

The peoples republic of california has the driving to slowly impeding traffic law along with the basic speed law of driving to fast for conditions. It does give the cop some discretion.

I have to agree about less laws and more common sense though.

[Old Syko]

Wow you guys are falling right in line like good little sheeple. You've been brain washed to accept the NWO thinking that the correct answer to every question is another law that limits the freedom and liberty of US citizens.

We don't need more laws we need fewer laws and more common sense.

OK so what is the answer?  How do you propose to promote common sense while on the highway?  Common sense as far as I know can't be taught and as Ron White has said you can't fix stupid.  The simple answer is to eliminate the majority of traffic laws completely and make it simple as it used to be on the Autobahn.  Drive only in the right lane and pass only in the left where there is no limit.  This isn't NWO thinking, it's merely common sense.

[no guns here]

Common sense would be great but it's not too common among drivers in the US.  What we need is a nationwide program aimed at educating people as well as some additional driving laws.  I favor trucks and trailers limited to 60mph and the right lane only on multi lane divided highways.  Center lane is for speed limit drivers.  Left lane is for passing and driving faster.  This works GREAT in Europe where drivers education is mandatory, lengthy and involved.  Traffic is much more orderly.  You don't have to worry about getting run over in the left lane by 40 tons of tractor trailer.  Of course it wouldn't work here in Texas.  Half the drivers here aren't even legal and they can't read the English on the signs and they don't have insurance.  I've lived in Oklahoma, Mississippi, Virginia, DC, Alabama, Belgium, Maryland, Germany and Texas.  I have to say that the drivers in San Antonio are absolutely and without question the worst I have ever seen with the possible exception of Rome and Naples.  Turn signals are not even optional for most of them.  Tailgating is standard practice.  Passing on the right is common.  Excessive speed is normal.  Most of the time the access roads are traveling faster than the highways.  It's just nuts.  What we need is education and enforcement and then stiff (harsh) penalties.



NGH

[SHOOTALL]

Don't know about most states but here the speed limit on interstate is min 45 already . Been that way since I started driving . I might be a federal requirement for funds  who knows ?

[mrloring]

The thing is about people stopping and not blending in with traffic at the end of an entrance ramp. The traffic will not move over for the people to properly merge, so not entirely their fault.

I say start issuing tickets.
yooper77

In Pennsylvania moving over to allow traffic to merge is illegal.  The left lane is for passing only and that is NOT considered passing.

[Hooker]

Most if not all states already have laws against impeding the flow of traffic and causing unsafe conditions.
 
Pat

[Mohawk]

When someone enters a freeway with a posted speed of 65 and they are going 20........ make sure the insurance premiums are current.

[yooper77]

The thing is about people stopping and not blending in with traffic at the end of an entrance ramp. The traffic will not move over for the people to properly merge, so not entirely their fault.

I say start issuing tickets.
yooper77

In Pennsylvania moving over to allow traffic to merge is illegal.  The left lane is for passing only and that is NOT considered passing.

Wow thanks I didn’t know that, I thought it were a courtesy thing.

yooper77

Wow you guys are falling right in line like good little sheeple. You've been brain washed to accept the NWO thinking that the correct answer to every question is another law that limits the freedom and liberty of US citizens.

We don't need more laws we need fewer laws and more common sense.

Common sense would be nice, but not realistic in the real world. I say enforce the laws on the books, and don’t make new ones.

yooper77

[yooper77]

Common sense would be great but it's not too common among drivers in the US.  What we need is a nationwide program aimed at educating people as well as some additional driving laws.  I favor trucks and trailers limited to 60mph and the right lane only on multi lane divided highways.  Center lane is for speed limit drivers.  Left lane is for passing and driving faster.  This works GREAT in Europe where drivers education is mandatory, lengthy and involved.  Traffic is much more orderly.  You don't have to worry about getting run over in the left lane by 40 tons of tractor trailer.   Of course it wouldn't work here in Texas.  Half the drivers here aren't even legal and they can't read the English on the signs and they don't have insurance.  I've lived in Oklahoma, Mississippi, Virginia, DC, Alabama, Belgium, Maryland, Germany and Texas.  I have to say that the drivers in San Antonio are absolutely and without question the worst I have ever seen with the possible exception of Rome and Naples.  Turn signals are not even optional for most of them.  Tailgating is standard practice.  Passing on the right is common.  Excessive speed is normal.  Most of the time the access roads are traveling faster than the highways.  It's just nuts.  What we need is education and enforcement and then stiff (harsh) penalties.



NGH

I lived in Italy for 4 years and Europeans are not safe drivers in the least. I have traveled from Italy through Austria into Germany and people tend to drive the right lane, but Europeans are not safer then the USA. You should see young Italian kids cut into traffic on their mopeds as they disregard everyone’s safety. Also I learned flashing your headlights in the left lane to vehicles ahead in the left lane wanting them to move over in Germany is considered harassment and punishable. They have lots of trucks just like us.

yooper77

[Land_Owner]

Wow you guys are falling right in line like good little sheeple. You've been brain washed to accept the NWO thinking that the correct answer to every question is another law that limits the freedom and liberty of US citizens.

We don't need more laws we need fewer laws and more common sense.

Throw out the driving laws and start a 'Road Warrior' mentality out there.  Let the carnage begin. 

Many older drivers (and they are increasing), some conscientious drivers, and some ID-10-T's driving on purpose below the limit in the left lane (Living in the Left Lane) versus the young, the Reckless and the Galactically Stupid.  Now that is a nightmare just waiting to happen.  Well, in most cities anyway.  In downtown New York City it is a daily occurrence.

You call for common sense in an entitlement mentality World?  Really?  Most drivers don't care.  It is a "My Lane, My Speed, My Highway, Go Home!" sort of surrealistic experience out there.

Give me a paint ball gun.  When a car or truck is plastered with paint ball splatter (more than ten), the cops have GOT to pull them over because the other drivers on the road have left their mark on that Idiot.

[BUGEYE]

I drive slow.  I drive in the right lane and when someone wants to merge from a ramp I slow down even more, flash my lights and let them in.
just common courtesy.

[williamlayton]

I am not a groupie---I get past the packs.
I pass quickly---I don't like driving next to anyone.
I sure don't like easing by an 18 wheeler---I want around those boys---they come apart on a regular basis---see all those 100 pound gator slabs along the road.
Then I get back in the right lane.
I don't care what the speedlimit is folks---get with the program.
I had to run 85 in Wyoming to keep up/out of the way of those big rigs.
I don't mind passing at 85---get around and out of the clutter.
Blessings

[magooch]

Most of our freeways have a lot more than a right and left lane to choose from and often if you choose the right lane, you are going to find yourself possibly going somewhere that you don't want to go, because it will suddenly turn into an exit only and trying to move over isn't always so easy. 

Merging into traffic on a freeway is the responsibility of the one merging, but I will either slow down, or move over if I can.

I very seldom ever drive at the speed limit for a couple of reasons.  It uses more gas and you are constantly having to change lanes to pass people like me.

[slim rem 7]

 i totally aggree with what greybeard said..just too many laws an regulations  ,already on the books..

[Bigeasy]

I was a State Trooper back in the 80's, and I can tell you from experience that slow drivers / drivers who hang in the left lane contribute to at least as many accidents as people speeding.  Just seems that the excessively slow driver seems to avoid the actual accident, and just keeps putting along on their way.

Think of all the total idiots you have met in your life, and figure most all of em drive a car....  Boy, I could tell some stories..

Larry

[LONGTOM]

I think most of the laws concerning the road are just fine the way they are with few exceptions.
One being a national speed limit what ever that be in all states.
This 60 here and 70 there thing is a joke.

The other one is here in VA.
It is a state law that if you come up on an emergency vehicle of any sort on the shoulder of the road and you are in the right lane you are to pull over into the lane to the left of you.
That is common sense of course.
The problem is that if there is traffic running beside you it can't be done without cutting someone off.
You can get a ticket if you don't pull over.
I will if I can, but I won't cut someone off to do it.
They are on the shoulder and should use their own common sense and get as far off the road way as possible for everyones safety!
I use to drive my own rigs for well over 35 years with over a million miles driven with only 2 accidents.
Neither was my fault but I was charged in one.
A car came off the ramp in dense fog and cut in front of me not knowing I was there.
Once they saw me instead of hitting the gas they hit the brakes.
I tried to miss them but caught the left rear bumper in doing so.
I was charged with following to close.
Go figure!
I was to young and stupid to go to court and fight it.
This was in Georgia back in the mid 70s.
Been in some close ones over the years and some of them would have been my fault.
Of those, most was in bad weather.

The last one is the entering of traffic from on ramps.
Like stated above, don't stop or slow down but match the speed of traffic and blend in.
I will admitt that some ramps are just to short but look back as you are comming on and you should be able to find a spot to blend in.
Not always but most of the time.



LONGTOM

[JBlk]

I am at that stage in my life where fifty five seems pretty fast to me.I concur with the fact that slow traffic should stay in the right lane unless passing but I think that anyone exceeding the posted speed limit in the left lane should be issued a citation.Drivers who think that the law doesn't apply to them are usually the cause of accidents.The big problem that I see with our highways today is that the traffic laws are not enforced.We don't need new laws, just enforcement of those on the books.Those drivers who cannot or willnot conform to the traffic laws should be permanently removed form the highways.

[Hooker]

Longtom we have the pull over for Emergency Vehicle law here also but, it say pull over if it can be done safely or slow down.
I like this law I still drive wreckers on occasion and I can tell you when you are on your knees or laying down on the white line hooking up to a vehicle.
And you have traffic coming by you at 65-70 mph just inches away it is not fun. Once when I hooking up a disabled car I was laying down and pickup came so close it took the mirror off my wrecker. Talk about a pucker factor  Anyway I'm willing to bet that most such laws are written as pull over or slow down the Problem is they don't say slow down to what speed. So here is a good rule, go as slow as you would if that was your kid working on the side of the road. Remember Emergency workers are most of the time focused on the clearing the roadway as quickly as possible so they may not be paying attention to traffic at all times.

Pat

[yellowtail3]

sounds to me like yet another reason for police to pull people over

go with the flow of traffic; right lane if you want to go a little slower

I'm against any further intrusion by the state. Paint HP cars bright pink and tell them to do something useful for a change

[mechanic]

I know of someone who got pulled over in 'Hotlanta for impeding the flow of traffic.  He said he was driving 65 in a 55 when it happened.  Troopers have enough laws now without making more.  I'm sure in Fla. there is some law that could be used if someone was creating a dangerous situation.....

Truth be told, there are so many laws LES's probably have never heard of half of them now..



Ben

[LONGTOM]

Longtom we have the pull over for Emergency Vehicle law here also but, it say pull over if it can be done safely or slow down.
I like this law I still drive wreckers on occasion and I can tell you when you are on your knees or laying down on the white line hooking up to a vehicle.
And you have traffic coming by you at 65-70 mph just inches away it is not fun. Once when I hooking up a disabled car I was laying down and pickup came so close it took the mirror off my wrecker. Talk about a pucker factor  Anyway I'm willing to bet that most such laws are written as pull over or slow down the Problem is they don't say slow down to what speed. So here is a good rule, go as slow as you would if that was your kid working on the side of the road. Remember Emergency workers are most of the time focused on the clearing the roadway as quickly as possible so they may not be paying attention to traffic at all times.

Pat

That very well maybe the case and really I do agree with the reasoning.
I too, have been under or along side my truck on the shoulder and at times it does get close but to make it a law I say is unnecessary.
I have been behind a few that have slowed down quite abruptly and at times it has caused my hair to tingle trying to avoid them.
A slow down is one thing but to slam on the brakes can be a very dangerous thing also.
There again, common sense!!!

Another good one is good old mom & pop pulling their camper trailer through construction zones.
The sign says 9' and their trailer is 8'.
They look in the mirror and see how close they are on one side and move over a little and WHAM, there goes the other side.
Don't look in the mirrors!
Hold the wheel steady and in the center of the lane and the trailer will be right behind them.
I do respect my elders but sometimes it can be a chore!!!



LONGTOM