Author Topic: Most accurate out of the box bolt gun? (Read 20335 times)

billy_56081 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 17, 2011, 03:44:12 PM »

The savage 110 series is the most accurate factory rifle made.

Swampman · « **Reply #31 on:** February 17, 2011, 03:58:27 PM »

Out of the box..........

Flynmoose · « **Reply #32 on:** February 17, 2011, 04:02:34 PM »

I know this is a Ford and Chevrolet kind of discussion, but I can't resist adding my .02 worth.
I have a Remington ADL synthetic in 223 that will shoot the lights out with the right load as
was stated earlier. My CZs however, needed nothing at all, shoot anything anytime.
FM

oberhaz · « **Reply #33 on:** February 18, 2011, 03:03:27 PM »

I guess I'll weigh in on this. However, my experience is minimal. I've got a model 70 & it is very accurate, very accurate. For a short time I had a Remington model 7, it was decent but nothing to brag about. Currently I have a Tikka T3 lite & it is amazing. I don't reload, in fact I don't need to with the Tikka. It is deadly accurate.

It is smooth & light. I realize there are prettier guns out there, but it puts meat on the table, without modification.

The Remington model 7 I had was a piece of trash compared to the Tikka & the Winchester.

Swampman · « **Reply #34 on:** February 18, 2011, 03:20:46 PM »

Model 7s aren't very accurate normally. I sold mine.

stubshaft · « **Reply #35 on:** February 18, 2011, 06:47:11 PM »

Off the rack my choice would have to be SAKO. I have 4 different 700's and they can be made to shoot exceptionally well but they do need tweaking.

Harry Snippe · « **Reply #36 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:12:50 AM »

Tikka is the gun out of the box clean and mount the scope After the site in your ready to go.
There is no tweaking , no stock adjustments, no bedding or trigger work .
Then the thrill for some is to take the gun home and take it apart .

So the tikka t3 is not a gun for you .

Swampman · « **Reply #37 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:41:02 PM »

Quote from: Harry Snippe on February 19, 2011, 05:12:50 AM

Tikka is the gun out of the box clean and mount the scope After the site in your ready to go.
There is no tweaking , no stock adjustments, no bedding or trigger work .

Just like a Remington 700 but made by foreigners.

oberhaz · « **Reply #38 on:** February 19, 2011, 02:42:13 PM »

The quality of Remington as of late looks questionable. Couple of close friends of mine & myself have had some issues with recent Remingtons.

Now that they are making Marlins a number of folks on Marlin owners have made negative comments as well.

The last two Remingtons I purchased were disappointing. I would be very cautious to go with any Remlin from here on out.

Some people like them. From my experience I will be Looking elsewhere.

Graybeard · « **Reply #39 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:50:38 PM »

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Model 7s aren't very accurate normally. I sold mine.

That's a crock of it.

I guess I've now owned close to two dozen Model Sevens beginning with one of the first ones they made in 7-08 which we still have. It's Faye's rifle now. It has never missed a single animal shot at with it and never once has it requird a follow up shot with three of us hunting extensively with it. It is the least accurate one I've owned with other than Hornady Light Mag ammo. With that it is sub MOA.

None a single one of the rest of them has failed to shoot an inch or under with most loads they were fed. The two Model Seven Predators I have I'd put up against anyone's varmint rifle and they are box stock. The .17 Fireball I've shot with nothing but factory ammo by Remington. It will put five in a half inch at 100 yards any time. I have the stuff to reload for it but bought a LOT of factory ammo and until it's all gone I'll not bother reloading for it. I'd guess I have enough for a couple more PD shoots if I ever get to go again before I need to reload for it.

I've had or in several cases still have them in .17 Fireball, .223 Remington, .260 Remington, 7-08 and .308. Nuttin wrong with Model Sevens and they shoot as well as the Model 700s with standard weight barrels. You have to go to the bull barrel varmint/target rifles to out shoot them and even they don't outshoot the Predator Model Sevens.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #40 on:** February 19, 2011, 11:05:36 PM »

got to agree. I havent had but two model 7s both 308s and both would shoot along side of any 700.

Swampman · « **Reply #41 on:** February 20, 2011, 02:44:08 AM »

The Model 7s I've owned were 1.5 MOA rifles. That's good enough for deer hunting.

351 power · « **Reply #42 on:** February 20, 2011, 03:57:41 AM »

never had a model 7 but 1.5 moa is good accuracy. that tired old quote
only accurate rifles are interesting
never specified .5 moa from a solid bench, probably from a lead sled or some other such artificial aid. my OPINION is as valid as any other and i figure most hunting rifles that maintain repeatable accuracy with durable consistancy under all hunting conditions and shooting positions is an interesting rifle. you put that together with reasonable workmanship what else matters?

Cabin4 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 20, 2011, 04:24:16 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on February 18, 2011, 03:20:46 PM

Model 7s aren't very accurate normally. I sold mine.

Quote from: Swampman on February 20, 2011, 02:44:08 AM

The Model 7s I've owned were 1.5 MOA rifles. That's good enough for deer hunting.

How do you reconcile these two contradictory posts? The model 7 went from it stinks/get rid of them to "it's good enough" in a matter of 1 day.

It never ends.

Swampman · « **Reply #44 on:** February 20, 2011, 05:23:50 AM »

I got rid of them.

I won't keep a rifle that won't shoot sub-MOA. Good enough for deer hunting means under 6" at 100 yards. Don't you have anything better to do than follow me around making troll comments? That all you do....

Cabin4 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 20, 2011, 05:33:12 AM »

I was not asking you to repeat what you wrote in the first post. I was asking how can you reconcile the vast differance of opinion from one day to the next on the same rifle? Don't worry about it. No need to try and answer another series of contradictions. I quess the point is, it cannot be be explained away. We are use to it.

poncaguy · « **Reply #46 on:** February 20, 2011, 11:14:01 AM »

Savage

Slowpoke Slim · « **Reply #47 on:** February 20, 2011, 04:13:41 PM »

Same here,

Savage.

No contest.

351 power · « **Reply #48 on:** February 21, 2011, 12:16:05 AM »

hey swampman, i read on another site that the 5r-milspec is fitted with an obermeyer 5r barrel. on the internet so it must be true
that rifle is like on of them 10/22s. just trading up parts

Swampman · « **Reply #49 on:** February 21, 2011, 04:34:10 AM »

It's a Remington barrel.

351 power · « **Reply #50 on:** February 21, 2011, 04:52:17 AM »

can't be. i read it on the internet. didn't you read it? keep looking for it yuo will find it then we can all rest easy

Cabin4 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 21, 2011, 05:01:49 AM »

And Remington AR's have been known to be a rebadged DPMS......

Swampman · « **Reply #52 on:** February 21, 2011, 05:06:04 AM »

I thought this tread was about boltguns.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 21, 2011, 05:10:55 AM »

It is. But the subject seems to have touched on the practice of manufacture to manufacture use of each others barrels. The point is remy uses others barrels as well in a number of applications. Remy is not as pure as you think they are.

Buckskin · « **Reply #54 on:** February 21, 2011, 07:37:06 AM »

Careful Swampman. Cabin is an expert at everything, just ask him... He lives in Kalifornia don't ya know....

My vote would be the Rem 700. Although several others guarantee 1 MOA out of the box (TC, Savage, Tikka for example), too bad Remington just says "it's still the most accurate out of the box rifle made". Saying that, I have never had a Rem 700 that wasn't and I would suspect that Remington would work with you if you had an issue.

And don't dump on the R-15's ( and I believe Bushmaster makes them for Remington). Mine is well under 1 MOA, and 5 song-dogs have stopped singing this winter all between 260 and 300 yds, 4 of 5 dropping in their tracks....

animal · « **Reply #55 on:** February 21, 2011, 10:34:40 AM »

I have never had a rifle I didn't like but as far as out of the box and add a scope, I'd vote for Tikka or Sako.

Huffmanite · « **Reply #56 on:** February 21, 2011, 11:32:30 AM »

Have a couple of Stevens 200s, a Savage Edge and a Marlin XL7....all shoot very accurately, with the Marlin being the more accurate out of the box due to it having a much better trigger. Even after greatly improving the trigger pulls on my Stevens 200s and the Edge....still think my Marlin XL is a little bit more accurate.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 21, 2011, 02:03:16 PM »

Quote from: Buckskin on February 21, 2011, 07:37:06 AM

Careful Swampman. Cabin is an expert at everything, just ask him... He lives in Kalifornia don't ya know....

You should know how to pick your battles Buckskin. When I say it is a fact, it is as far as I know. I'm not like Swampman and you who spread all sorts of opion around as facts. If your going to dispute that what I said is not factual about Remy using DPMS barrles, then you should just shut your trap. So what is it Bucksin? Does Remy use DPMS barrels on thier ARs or not?

Swampman · « **Reply #58 on:** February 21, 2011, 02:12:44 PM »

DPMS doesn't make barrels. They do produce receivers for many if not most Colt clone Assault Rifles.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 21, 2011, 02:29:57 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on February 21, 2011, 02:12:44 PM

DPMS doesn't make barrels. They do produce receivers for many if not most Colt clone Assault Rifles.

Show us the post that I wrote DMPS makes barrels? You won't find it. I wrote:

Quote from: Cabin4 on February 21, 2011, 05:01:49 AM

And Remington AR's have been known to be a rebadged DPMS......

Another reading comprehension problem for the Swampman.