Author Topic: Most accurate out of the box bolt gun? (Read 20043 times)

ironglow · « **Reply #60 on:** February 21, 2011, 03:02:22 PM »

SAVAGE...

http://www.gunblast.com/Savage10FP-LE2.htm

Scroll down to check out the pictures and targets...read the text, at least the last couple paragraphs..

ironglow · « **Reply #61 on:** February 21, 2011, 03:04:34 PM »

SAVAGE...
read what the hunting guides say... http://hunting.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/tp_bolt_rifles.htm

Swampman · « **Reply #62 on:** February 21, 2011, 03:17:20 PM »

First 5 shots @ 100 yards with my Walmart bought Model 700 .30-06 sporter using 180 grain Core-Lokt factory ammo. The top 2 were fouling shots without a tailbag and the last 3 were with a tailbag. Barrel was not allowed to cool. Scope is a 3-9X40 Nikon Prostaff.

ironglow · « **Reply #63 on:** February 21, 2011, 03:24:42 PM »

That's good shooting Swampy...
If you read the posted article by Chuck Hawks, you have seen his first 3 shots with the Savage 10FP. Following groups were as good or better.

Swampman · « **Reply #64 on:** February 21, 2011, 03:50:11 PM »

But it's a Tactical rifle with match ammo

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #65 on:** February 22, 2011, 01:09:49 AM »

remington now owns bushmaster too. If you look at the reminton ars you will notice that none of them have barrels that are the same as bushys or dpms so im guessing they make there own. Im also going to go out on a limb and say that newer production dpms and bushmasters will have remington made barrels. I dont know about bushmaster but i do know that dpms never made there own barreles. They contracted them out. I about know that savage makes there own because i remember a show on tv that was a visit to the savage factory and it showed them rifling barrels for there guns. I also know that ive never seen a savage that didnt shoot but sorry fans there just so but ugly that theres no place for one in my safe. Not that i havent bought them. I had a 223 fp that was a real shooter and i probalby should have kept it and i have bought to stevens 200s for my grandkids in 243 and they shoot real well and are a heck of a bargin for the price but i still cant abide taking an ugly girl to the dance.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #66 on:** February 22, 2011, 10:23:40 AM »

Sako TRG come in a box? You gotta have a budget in mind to narrow this up a bit. Intended use would be of some help as well.

My vote would go towards the Sako line across the board, they are one of the few who brag up 5 shot groups not 3 shot groups.

charles p · « **Reply #67 on:** February 22, 2011, 10:30:27 AM »

I've bought many new rifles, a few used rifles, and had one customr beanfield rifle built just for long range accuracy. The most accurate out of the box rifle I think I have ever owned was an old Browning BBR in 25-06. Bought it the first year they introduced that model, back in the 70's. It really likes .257 bullets in 100 grain weight. Ugly as heck to look at, and sort of heavy. Nine lugs on the bolt doesn't make much sense (could never lap a bolt like that), but darned if it isn't a good shooting rifle.

I know the question was who makes the best out of the box rifle, but I think some of it is luck of the draw.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #68 on:** February 22, 2011, 03:13:34 PM »

Respect for service to country yes. Overall Respect, NO. That is something everyone needs to earn regardless of your service to country. Me included.

My next center fire bolt gun will likely be a Tikka or a Marlin. If money was no object, differant story. I looked at much higher priced guns but just cant justify the added costs forwhat I need.

ironglow · « **Reply #69 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:43:32 AM »

Now, back to the thread;
Another tribute to Savage accuracy.. Outdoor Life must by now have been published over 100 years, and they have tested many, many rifles; including 'top shelf' brands. In July, 2008, Outdoor Life said the Savage they reviewed was "the most accurate rimfire we ever tested". My Savage rimfire will outshoot my Anschutz.. of course, that's a .17 HMR vs .22 LR, but still I am very pleased with my Savages. Scroll down and read the first paragraph for Outdoor Life's statement;
http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/gear/shooting/2008/06/gun-test-08?photo=6

Now, before I sound too "brand blind"..there are many brands which are great shooters and among them any shooter/rifle combination may beat any other shooter/rifle combination on any given day..
Other brands (under $1,000) which come to mind are, CZ, Weatherby by Howa, certain Brownings, Tikka, Sako, Brno, some Mausers, Steyr and a few others..

Buckskin · « **Reply #70 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:35:19 AM »

Ironglow,

Do you know if that Savage was the Mark II? I bought one in a bull barrell 22 in 09' and it is a real tack driver, actually a tack would be too big, how about a brad nail driver... I've never tried any of the match ammo with it, but any 40 grain that runs about 1250 will punch one hole at 50 yds, with Federal's being it's favorite.

I was thinking centerfire for some reason and glossed over that I had a Savage bolt gun. I do like that accutrigger, for a $300 gun, it has to have the best trigger on the market.

Swampman · « **Reply #71 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:58:57 AM »

The Savage boltaction rimfires I've owned would neither feed, fire, nor extract on a regular basis. When they went off they were fairly accurate.

Buckskin · « **Reply #72 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:34:32 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on February 23, 2011, 02:58:57 AM

The Savage boltaction rimfires I've owned would neither feed, fire, nor extract on a regular basis. When they went off they were fairly accurate.

Were they older models? Mine has never had a hiccup.

Swampman · « **Reply #73 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:28:04 AM »

Not very old.

yooper77 · « **Reply #74 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:06:30 AM »

I bought a Savage model Mark I-GY youth rifle single shot in 22 LR for my daughter. I mounted a Weaver RV7 2.5-7x28mm scope using Millet medium rings. This little rifle is very accurate, she loves it.

yooper77

ironglow · « **Reply #75 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:11:22 AM »

Quote from: Buckskin on February 23, 2011, 02:35:19 AM

Ironglow,

Do you know if that Savage was the Mark II? I bought one in a bull barrell 22 in 09' and it is a real tack driver, actually a tack would be too big, how about a brad nail driver... I've never tried any of the match ammo with it, but any 40 grain that runs about 1250 will punch one hole at 50 yds, with Federal's being it's favorite.

I was thinking centerfire for some reason and glossed over that I had a Savage bolt gun. I do like that accutrigger, for a $300 gun, it has to have the best trigger on the market.

Buckskin;
Here's what Outdoor Life wrote; I lifted it directly from the article...

For the first time since we began doing our annual gun test, a single rifle has won both the Editor's Choice and Great Buy awards. So how did it do it? With its gleaming stainless-steel action and barrel and a laminated hardwood stock that echoes the sculpting of legendary stock-stylist Reinhart Fajen, the MK II certainly looks considerably more upscale than its price tag indicates. But good value alone doesn't win Outdoor Life's top award. To do so, a firearm must exhibit a level of performance consistently better than that of other guns in its class. The Savage MK II .22 RF we tested proved to be not just the most accurate rimfire we tested this year, but the most accurate rimfire we've ever tested, including some high-dollar rifles of exalted European origin.
Below is the photo Outdoor Life included with the article;

Cabin4 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:12:27 AM »

Quote from: Spanky on February 23, 2011, 06:01:23 AM

I don't think anyone makes a lemon these days... some do shoot better than others though. On a side note... I always think it's funny when someone puts 'ol Avery in his place. He seems to spend alot of time "internet stalking" and spouting nonsense. The typical "do as I say and not as I do" mentality. It's a Kalifornia thing I think.

Spanky

Spanky, No forum contributor puts me or anyone in their "place", we all elect to go there. You really should stay out of engaging in pure personal attacks. GBO has already told folks to knock off those personal attacks that had been initiated. You’re not part of those posts and you don't know what those threads are about anyway. As I said, those posts are taken completely out of context and the on-topic aspect has been removed. Not to mention, most are pulled from another forum section. So it’s best to just stay out of that since you cannot connect in anyway the entire post. Best to just keep this on-topic. If all you want to do is launch a pure personal attack post with no on-topic information, just send me a PM.

pastorp · « **Reply #77 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:48:39 AM »

Swampy, are you saying you started this thread. I think if you look at the first post you'll find I started it, but you guys have been messing up all my threads with your fighting.

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There are a lot of good comments here but it's getting hard to find them for all the other posts. Really guys is this thread that inflammatory. It was not intended to be.

Regards,

Swampman · « **Reply #78 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:03:06 PM »

I also have an 870 Youth Model and I really like it. I also like the Model 700 because I've never owned or even seen one that wasn't a great shooter.

Spanky · « **Reply #79 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:08:44 PM »

I'd like to get an 870 in 20ga.
They're nice guns and there's about a million aftermarket parts for them.

Spanky

Spanky · « **Reply #80 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:14:17 PM »

The local Wally World has a Model 700 with laminate stock and sights and chambered in 30-06 for $518. If I had the extra boot I'd own it.

You'd be hard pressed to find a better all around big game rifle.

Spanky

Swampman · « **Reply #81 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:28:55 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on February 23, 2011, 12:14:17 PM

The local Wally World has a Model 700 with laminate stock and sights and chambered in 30-06 for $518. If I had the extra boot I'd own it.
You'd be hard pressed to find a better all around big game rifle.

Spanky

My buddy offered to sell me one of those in .270 for $400.00 a few months ago with a decent scope on it. I wish I'd bought it.

Spanky · « **Reply #82 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:42:43 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on February 23, 2011, 12:28:55 PM

Quote from: Spanky on February 23, 2011, 12:14:17 PM
The local Wally World has a Model 700 with laminate stock and sights and chambered in 30-06 for $518. If I had the extra boot I'd own it.
You'd be hard pressed to find a better all around big game rifle.

Spanky

My buddy offered to sell me one of those in .270 for $400.00 a few months ago with a decent scope on it. I wish I'd bought it.

That would be a heck of a deal especially with a scope on it. Personally I'd want to get the 30-06 over the 270. Not because there's anything wrong with the 270 but the old 30-06 is just about perfect.

Spanky

Graybeard · « **Reply #83 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:36:13 PM »

OK I've removed a whole pile of personal attacks and name calling. ANYONE who makes a personal attack or name calling on this thread will be banned from the site.

If you are wondering if that includes you then yeah you better bet it does. Now get on subject or get out of this thread.

Spanky · « **Reply #84 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:24:36 PM »

Thanks GB.

Like I said before.. I don't think any company makes a real lemon nowadays. I've owned a few bolt guns and they've all shot well enough for their intended purpose. My cheap Stevens 22-250 shoots better than it should for the money. My next bolt gun will probably be a Remington.

Spanky

Swampman · « **Reply #85 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:34:05 AM »

Dick's Sporting Goods has some great deals on Model 700s. I'd like to have one of their laminated SPSs in 7mmRM to build a .300H&H out of.

Buckskin · « **Reply #86 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:27:45 AM »

I'll have to check out Dick's for a 700 in 7-08. There is an Ace hardware in Central Wisconsin that has THE best pricing on guns. They literally have lines 10 deep on weekends of Guy's buying guns. Unfortunately they are about 3 hours from here, so even I can save $100+ it's tough to justify the trip.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #87 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:46:47 AM »

http://www.aceoflacrosse.com/sporting_goods.asp

Buckskin · « **Reply #88 on:** February 25, 2011, 02:39:15 AM »

My mistake, it's a Hardware Hank. Moe's in Black River Falls...

guzzijohn · « **Reply #89 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:32:54 AM »

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There is an Ace hardware in Central Wisconsin that has THE best pricing on guns. They literally have lines 10 deep on weekends of Guy's buying guns.

That caught me by surprise! We have Ace hardwares all over Kansas and I have never been in one that has gun/ammo for sale.
GuzziJohn