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Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« on: February 16, 2011, 09:32:56 AM »

The US government has a solution to the Somali pirate problem...........Just welcome them with open arms to the good old US. Why risk you life at Piracy,when you can just come here and loot and plunder without the threat of retaliation.

Some of our stupid Liberal states like Minn. will welcome you and your kind. ::)


Exclusive: Small Town America Transformed By Somali Migrants

Paul Williams, PhD

Newly arrived Somali immigrants have transformed small towns and cities throughout the United States into tuulas (Somali villages).
 
The process is underway in such places as Lewiston, Maine; Shelbyville, Tennessee, St. Cloud, Minnesota, Clarkston,Georgia, and Jamestown, North Dakota.
 
The Jamestown Sun reports that 400 Somalis have applied for public housing in the past four months.
 
The Somali immigrants in Garden City, Kansas and nearby small towns have created the Somali Community Center of Southwest Kansas in order to tap into public welfare programs. Within this section of the heartland, white Christians have become the minority.
 
In East San Diego, the newly arrived Somalis have created a Little Mogadishu. The streets are lined with Somali stores, shops, and mosques. In the midst of this ethnic enclave stands the Iftin Charter School, where K-8 students are introduced to Arabic. 99% of the student population is Somali; Arabs constitute the remaining 1%.
 
The American Somalis now display the highest unemployment and poverty rates in the country. They also remain the least educated. According to Andrew Liepman, the deputy director of intelligence at the National Counterterrorism Center, Somali-Americans face "greater insularity compared to other, more integrated Muslim immigrant communities, [which] has aggravated the challenge of assimilation for their children."
 
This problem is crystallized by the present situation is Lewiston, Maine, where African Muslims, many from the Bantu tribe, began arriving in 2001 at the rate of 100 a month.
 
Mohammed Maye, the president of the African Community and Refugee Center in Clarkston, Georgia posted a map of Lewiston on the wall of his office. “Go to Maine,” he advised the Somali immigrants. Abdullahi Abdullahi, the president of the Somali Community Development Organization in Clarkston, upheld this advice by telling his fellow countrymen that, unlike Georgia, Maine has terribly cold winters, but “the welfare system is better.”
 
Lewiston, indeed, was better. The small town in Maine with a population of 30,000 provided welfare to anyone in need, with the state picking up half the tab. Recipients, including the Muslim refugees, were allowed a generous five years of assistance before their benefits became terminated, and extensions for several additional years on the public dole were not difficult to obtain. Single parents could stay on welfare and go to college.
 
Public housing was also available, although, with the influx of Somalis, the housing projects became packed to capacity. Many of the new project dwellers were single Somali mothers with large broods of children. Those who are unable to obtain public housing were handed Section 8 vouchers, which the federal government provided to subsidize their rent in private apartments. The northern city with its frigid climate became welfare heaven for the arrivals from the vast desert areas of northern Africa.
 
The newcomers have shown scant interest in securing employment. When Renee Bernier, the president of the Lewiston city council, offered to hire 30 Somalis at the rate of $8 to $10 an hour to hold warning signs at construction sites, few displayed interest. The handful, who did apply, said that they were only willing to work between the hours of 10 a.m. and 2 p.m.
 
The Somali population of Lewiston now exceeds 40,000.
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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 10:15:01 AM »
Insanity. The downward spiral continues.

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 08:06:53 PM »
This country is becoming a target rich enviroment. Time to load more ammo.gypsyman
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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 04:44:01 AM »
Insanity. The downward spiral continues.



You got that right!!! Just read this...............
Pirates hijack 4 Americans; US mulls responses
Updated: Feb 19, 2011 - 6:41AM

Jason Straziuso
AP
NAIROBI, Kenya -The United States government on Saturday said it was assessing possible responses after Somali pirates hijacked a yacht with four Americans on board in the Arabian sea off the coast of Somalia.

Pirates hijacked the yacht Quest on Friday, two days after a Somali pirate was sentenced to 33 years in prison by a New York court for the 2009 hijacking of the Maersk Alabama. That case ended in a spectacular rescue when Navy sharpshooters killed two pirates holding Capt. Richard Phillips.



Matt Goshko, a spokesman at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, which oversees Somalia, said preliminary reports indicate there are four U.S. citizens aboard the Quest.

Pirates have increased attacks off the coast of East Africa in recent years despite an international flotilla of warships dedicated to protecting vessels and stopping the pirate assaults.

After the Maersk Alabama was hijacked in April 2009, Navy sharpshooters on the fantail of the USS Bainbridge fired on pirates holding the ship's captain, killing two of them. The only pirate to survive that U.S. rescue was Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse, the pirate who was sentenced to 33 years in prison this week.

The prison sentence given to Muse this week could have implications on the hijacking of the Quest and the four Americans. Pirates have turned increasingly violent in their attacks, and naval officials say pirates have begun systematically torturing hostages and using them as human shields.

Earlier this week a Somali pirate told an Associated Press reporter in Somalia that pirates would target Americans in retaliation for the sentencing. The pirate, who identified himself by the name Hassan, said Americans would suffer "regrettable consequences."

Pirates have recently tied hostages upside down and dragged them in the sea, locked them in freezers, beaten them and used plastic ties around their genitals, the commander of the European Union anti-piracy force, Maj. Gen. Buster Howes told AP this month.—

Associated Press reporter Abdi Guled in Mogadishu, Somalia, contributed to this report.


And we welcome their murderous brethren into our country, at the rate of one hundred a day.

GO FIGURE!!
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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 04:50:22 AM »
Has anyone read any reports on pirates trying to hijack a Russian vessel lately?  That happened a few months ago, with fatal results for the pirates after the Russian version of Navy Seals boarded the ship.  Apparently the Somali Govt whined to the UN about the brutal way their pirates were treated.  The Russians didn't care whether the Somalis liked it or not.  It appears that now the Somalis are staying clear of Russian ships, unless maybe they've attacked some and it has gone unreported.

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 06:25:58 AM »
Join me on a cruise! See details below for reducing Somali pirate attacks. ;D ;D


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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 08:32:21 AM »
The ONLY logical answer to piracy.


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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2011, 04:52:44 PM »
Dinny, sign me up!! LOL!  Maybe the 101st can have a reunion for all of us old "Screaming Eagles"  ;D

 I don't understand the reluctance to reduce the harbors to tide flat after every pirate attempt. It would give our naval forces "hands on" gunnery practice as well as naval aviators bombing practice. Wouldn't even have to put boots on the ground. Returning napalm to the TO&E inventories could certainly help a bit. I would imagine it sticks to pirates as well as to their docks and piers.

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 06:27:10 PM »
Dinny, sign me up!! LOL!  Maybe the 101st can have a reunion for all of us old "Screaming Eagles"  ;D
I don't understand the reluctance to reduce the harbors to tide flat after every pirate attempt. It would give our naval forces "hands on" gunnery practice as well as naval aviators bombing practice. Wouldn't even have to put boots on the ground. Returning napalm to the TO&E inventories could certainly help a bit. I would imagine it sticks to pirates as well as to their docks and piers.

Now that's a fabulous idea!! What fun that would be!

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 11:43:06 PM »
Wasn't this countries first standing military, the Navy, created to deal with pirates? We've come a long long way from the common sense of our founding fathers.

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 06:35:55 AM »
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Wasn't this countries first standing military, the Navy, created to deal with pirates?


Sounds like a Job for BlackWater....


Turn them loose or just roomer they are going to be aboard.


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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 07:41:29 AM »
Wasn't this countries first standing military, the Navy, created to deal with pirates? We've come a long long way from the common sense of our founding fathers.

After the revolutionary war, yes. Funds for a navy were one of the first big money appropriations for our new found congress, and indeed was partially for the suppression of barbary pirates along near modern day libya ( to the shores of tripoli).Also to keep british war ships from "shanghai- ing" american trade ships crews. Later on, to patrol the western coast of Africa to suppress the slavery trade which may arguably have had little effect on the amount of slaves brought to the Americas. (Only about one quarter to one third of all african slaves actually made it to the USA, most went ot the caribbean and so american carribean coast). I should be pretty close on th history lesson, memory can be a funny thing sometimes. I am no expert really, just an amateur student of history.

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 12:38:47 PM »
1. Glad I left Maine behind.
2. Hoist a Russian flag on the vessel at first sign of Pirates.
3. Glass Somalia, nothing good ever came from there anyway.

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2011, 08:21:36 AM »
Those misguided fools got themselves killed!!
Misguided ??  Yes!!
For how long has this part of the Indian Ocean been infected with pirates??
Besides private boats, how many commercial large ships have been taken?
They yachties didn't know this? They must have thought they had a Carte Blanche Hall Pass for those waters.
Then they had a number of bibles aboard, their main cruising mission to pass them out, gosh, the Muslim Somali's were really impressed. MORONS !!
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2011, 10:37:06 AM »
Scatterbrain, have to agree with ya. Anybody going into this part of the world in this day and age, has to assume the risk themselve's.
Now, with that being said, the 5th fleet isn't that far away. If we had a Reagan for a president, instead of bozo the clown, send a couple of ships over there and have some practice.
From the news reports I heard, the ''pirate's'' were some 17 and 18 year old kids on drugs.(sounds like LA on a Sat. night,crypts/bloods thing) No excuss. Trouble with todays administration, they'll probably take them in to ''rehibilitate'' them, and let them go with American citizenship in a few years. gypsyman
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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2011, 03:54:46 PM »
In WWI and maybe WWII the British had merchant cruisers that looked like regular ships but were heavily armed for the purpose of suckering German U-boats into a surface attack.  This would be a good idea now.  Sucker them in and send them to Allah before they can send a radio message tellling what is going on.  A couple of 20mm Gatlings should do the job quick enough!

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2011, 07:23:30 PM »
In WWI and maybe WWII the British had merchant cruisers that looked like regular ships but were heavily armed for the purpose of suckering German U-boats into a surface attack.  This would be a good idea now.  Sucker them in and send them to Allah before they can send a radio message tellling what is going on.  A couple of 20mm Gatlings should do the job quick enough!

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Re: Solution to Samali Pirate Problem
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 06:54:16 AM »
The IDF likes civilian targets, I believe those some of these waters are within range.
There are enough Eyes in the Sky to watch any canoe's out there IF there was a Will to settle this once and for all.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 12:06:12 PM »
Hello All,

   I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who had the idea to a pirate problem. Does the line "To the shores of Tripoli" ring a bell. I am sure Louis Farracan, Jessie Jackson, and several others would disagree and relate their actions (The pirates) to just the reactions of poor Black boy's to the injustice of the whole world. These poor, starving, unemployeed, people have the same opportunity that the colonist in the now US had in 1776. Throw off the yoke of human opression or live under the control of local war-lords, dictators, and tyrants. The US is a shining beacon of what is possible.
  One Coast Guard, or Navy vessel in those waters for six months with liberal rules of engagement wouls solve the problem. Too bad political correctness won't let it happen.

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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2011, 10:55:07 PM »
And minneapolis and st. paul now have over 90,000 somalis-is there any wonder we end up with politicians like al franken, ellison, klobuchar,  and dayton?