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Day of Rage America
« on: February 16, 2011, 03:54:56 PM »
From their Facebook site (link below to verify):
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We believe that Egypt is just the start.
   
We are calling for all revolutionaries to stand up. On March 12th, we want all revolutionaries, youth, communists, socialists, and anarchists to stand together.

To stand against the imperialist American. To stand against the capilitalists that our exploiting our workers. Right to jobs, right to housing, right to healthcare. We must rise up my fellow Americans. We can truly live the dream. Clean Energy, is a reality that we as youth must embrace. Our government must change it’s ways or we will change it for them.

A utopian society built on clean energy, peace for all, a classless society, freedom, and justice.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Day-of-Rage-America/152197368169902?sk=wall
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 11:46:19 AM »
Apparently these whiners' facebook page was taken down.
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 11:59:42 AM »
"utopian society". Uh huh, I wonder who pays for those??  I don't understand the pro anarchy types?? They want anarchy, not realizing that it would be okay for others to attack them with no repercussions?? That just doesn't make sense.

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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 12:00:36 PM »
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To stand against the capilitalists that our exploiting our workers.

They need to educate themselves. Without capitalists there would be no workers.

(Except in a command and control economy where poverty prevails and dissenters are mass murdered.)
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“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the State. They forget that the State lives at the expense of everyone.” — Frederic Bastiat

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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 01:19:49 PM »
No, in anarchy their web would not funtion and it would end there. And their electricity, water, food, cable, payroll(if they work), govt check(if they don't work), mail system, banking system, grocery shopping, place to buy cigarrettes, beer, gas, and anything they think is not available.  etc  will all be extinguished. Will they risk that? No Way.  The creators are probably students sitting on a family fortune and have no clue. But yet they won't give their fortune to anyone!  Hypocrits at their best.

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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 01:22:28 PM »
As long as they keep their rage out of my damn yard every thing will be moue bueno.
Mohawk, not to argue but they will risk it, because their too damn stupid to realize what you just said is true. Hell they haven't even thought of it. They have never been cold, hungry, and wet, or smelled day old death. The youth that want this, have not seen killing, and therefore have no real understanding of hunger let alone mortality.
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 01:25:10 PM »
As long as they keep their rage out of my yard every thing will be moue bueno.
I'll drink to that!

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 01:52:32 PM »
Not dismissing it,  But their legal rally is already in the press. That is their right, granted. But when they use the language they did..... That is a whole different story..... And yes, please keep it off my lawn and porch. 

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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 02:35:26 PM »
What   RIGHT to a job, RIGHT to a house, RIGHT to clean energy, are they speaking of? As far as i know these are not rights, a job, housing and energy clean or not are things you EARN.
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 03:00:15 PM »
What   RIGHT to a job, RIGHT to a house, RIGHT to clean energy, are they speaking of? As far as i know these are not rights, a job, housing and energy clean or not are things you EARN.

Dont forget the right to food! They have rights to all these things maaaaaan! Never mind that by getting these things from others without compensating them for their time labor or materials amounts to slavery. What about the producers' rights maaaaaaaaan?
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 03:46:30 PM »
Right to protest(Assemble).

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 03:52:35 PM »
Of course it follows that while millions are protesting in countries all around the world, folks here would get the itch - because they see it on the TV, the Net, twitter, FB, etc. Why d'ya suppose the teacher's union in WI is going so public in their protest? D'you think they would've gone out in the cold if they hadn't seen how effective it is to protest on the TV? Iran and China aren't stupid to ban access to media coverage of Days of Rage around the world, not morally right maybe, but definitely not stupid. Monkey see, Monkey do.

I concur with the "so long as it stays outta my yard" sentiment ... but only to a point. When the protests take on a certain degree of life, then I may have to do something to keep it outta my yard.
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 04:03:58 PM »
So the remainder of the Constitution is a waste provided the 2nd Amendment is upheld? Uh Huh. Then why are not us gun owners giving a protest? I believe in a Consritution? The WHOLE thing, not just one amendment that benefits me.

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2011, 04:11:39 PM »
It would be interesting to have this turn into an all out blood letting riot. I'd shed no tears if these parasites killed each other off by the thousands.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 04:18:16 PM »
Right to protest(Assemble).
So the remainder of the Constitution is a waste provided the 2nd Amendment is upheld? Uh Huh. Then why are not us gun owners giving a protest? I believe in a Consritution? The WHOLE thing, not just one amendment that benefits me.

I dont begrudge their right to assemble. It is what they are assembling for that I have a problem with-basically to demand the confiscation of things from others that they think they have some sort of right to.

They have the right to Life Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. No one owes them food or a job or a house or healthcare. They are free however to pursue (earn) these things if they want them. If they want these things well then I guess it is time for them to get their a$$ off of the couch in their parents' basement and go out and get a job to earn the money to PAY for these things. Even in a utopian society SOMEONE still has to pay the bill.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 04:33:09 PM »
For example, it appears the protest in WI is to have the government force other teachers to pay union dues. If the government assents to the demands of those protesters, which one is liable for denying the liberties of another citizen? The protesters or the government?

If one is forced to pay union dues, that violates a lot more constitutional protections than the 2A.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 05:01:21 AM »
The 2nd Amendment is:THE ABILITY AND THE MEANS TO ARGUE with an oppressive government, or individual, or group. It truly IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AMENDMENT, for that reason only. When it's gone, you are left with the most times failed "compromised negotiation".
I oft times wonder in reading many posts on this site, if many of the posters recognize the difference of "DEMOCRACY VS REPUBLIC"? I want no part of democracy, as even the founders recognized it as "mob rule".
I say: Protest all you want, but keep it out of my yard, or I will sweep it clean of the trash in my own fashion. After all. It is still a REPUBLIC, and the yard is still mine for now.
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2011, 05:42:31 AM »
Another thing I dont get about this group:"... communists, socialists, and anarchists to stand together"

Arent the beliefs of anarchists incompatable with those of commies and socialists?
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2011, 06:52:02 AM »
Another thing I dont get about this group:"... communists, socialists, and anarchists to stand together"

Arent the beliefs of anarchists incompatable with those of commies and socialists?

Yes indeed. However as was evidenced at WTO demonstrations, the anarchists tear stuff up, "emphasizing" for the other groups. The ol' enemy of my enemy thing.

 I do agree that gun owners would make for the most news worthy riots. All them pantywetters crying and lying in the fetal position.

I gotta wonder how many of those commies and socialist have ever read anything remotely accurate about the soviet and other utopias ?

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2011, 07:33:02 AM »
Mike Malloy, radio talk personality for the left view, is an articulate representative of this level of rage:
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They're [Republicans] worse than useless. These are terrorists. These are domestic terrorists. They want the country to fail, for God’s sake. They want exactly what anyone who attacked this country on September 11, 2001 wanted. The real internal terrorists are the Republicans, I mean, isn't that clear? Rush Limbaugh is a bigger threat to this country than Osama bin Laden. He's a bigger threat than anybody that the CIA can invent. He's a bigger threat than any terrorist that ever leveled its sights against the United States, Limbaugh is, so why isn't he arrested and sentenced for treason?
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Well, keep it up boys, just keep it up, um except for one thing: you rat b*****ds [conservatives] are going to cause another Murrah federal building explosion, you are. And then - what is Beck - maybe at that point Beck will do the honorable thing and blow his brains out.

Maybe at that point, Limbaugh will do the honorable thing and just gobble up enough - enough Viagra that he becomes absolutely rigid and keels over dead.

Maybe then O'Reilly will just drink a vat of the poison he spews out on America every night and choke to death! Because that's what's gonna to happen, that's what they are pushing these right-wing, nut case, fringe, militia jerk-wads to doing!
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I believe if there was a Day of Rage in America, the Left would blame the Right for it. When I counsel married couples, its becoming more commonplace for one party to deny responsibility for their responses to their circumstances - its always the other persons fault that they get so mad they break things, drink, and harm their spouse & children. This is where I see the fruit of what we have sown in our society.
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Re: Day of Rage America
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2011, 08:00:17 AM »
Another thing I dont get about this group:"... communists, socialists, and anarchists to stand together"

Arent the beliefs of anarchists incompatable with those of commies and socialists?

Yes indeed. However as was evidenced at WTO demonstrations, the anarchists tear stuff up, "emphasizing" for the other groups. The ol' enemy of my enemy thing.

 

Good point. I never thought of the anarchists playing the role of useful idiot in these protests.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2011, 12:02:12 PM »
The group sounds more like whiners than anything else. They demand a "Right to a good job" despite if a person is skilled in that job or not. I wonder if they realize that "working" requires showing up to work eveyday and performing well and you just can't leave whenever your next social revolution begins and expect to keep that job because that is their "Right". The group that plans to march in Austin seems a little less radical and appeared to be just another left wing group, nothing unusual, according to the news. Health care, pro abortion, I want to sit at hone and watch soap operas and not work so the govt can give me money type stuff, etc.

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2011, 12:08:26 PM »
Right to protest(Assemble).


PEACEABLY assemble.  Somehow that word always gets omitted when the "right to protest" is brought up. 
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2011, 02:26:04 PM »
Now let's not give all anarchist a bad name. After all our founding fathers were anarchist. There are different kinds of anarchists. Some good- some bad.

Anarchist - a person who advocates the abolition of government and a social system based on voluntary cooperation.

Now all Americans lived under this form of self government from 1776 to the Fall of 1787 and they did very well. Maybe better than the years after 1787.

Considering this present form of government, which is different than the early government of this country, I could very well welcome that type of anarchism. (Especially since government is the source of most of our present day problems.)
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2011, 06:47:06 AM »
Gary G, somebody has described that form of anarchism  as minarchism - absolute minimum form of govt necessary. That allowed towns and communities to set up some form of authority to handle local disputes, etc. Anarchism today appears to merely an expression of dissatisfaction, and really more like narcissism.
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2011, 07:19:15 AM »
Gary G, somebody has described that form of anarchism  as minarchism - absolute minimum form of govt necessary. That allowed towns and communities to set up some form of authority to handle local disputes, etc. Anarchism today appears to merely an expression of dissatisfaction, and really more like narcissism.

Todays "anarchists" also seem to advocate some form of leveling or wealth redistribution.  How you manage that without a strong central state they don't say.
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2011, 08:34:05 AM »
That's in effect communism, they just choose not to use the word. It is quite a state of dementia to think that a lazy bum should be paid equally as a hard working, skilled person. They blame " lack of equal education " which is a joke. I went to school with plenty of disadvantaged folks who aquired a great education instead of hiding behind the " The govt won't treat me right because I am descriminated against" cloak. My roots are in the poorest parts of south Dallas. So was the musician Stevie Ray Vaughn. We weren't protesting for handouts.  And yes it is ironic. Without a centralized govt who do they think will collect and disribute their free money? These folk, for all we know, are protedting to irritate their parents or impress a girl. They make no valid argument. they just want to rant and rave. A co-worker of mine was in the Soviet Army growing up. Some of the "minor" problems he had as a soldier would be front page news and cause law suits daily. Having no hot water for 3 years. Fed one meal a day during winter. And always the same food, etc. Oh, and not getting back pay for one entire year. Would the "communist agitators" accept this?. No, they would take them to court! Umm...... what court? Oh, the court appointed and ordered by fellow party members to rule in their favor, that's right. But they can appeal! Really? You are sent to the same party judge. And in the "disribution of wealth" the wealth is disributed to WHO they want to give it to. Not to everyone. If you have no value to their agenda than you will be treated as such.

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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 10:55:53 AM »
Sounds like some random group of emo kids try to "change" something.

Just look at the groups they ask to stand together: communists and anarchists.

Now, both are pretty darned bad, but both are absolute and complete polar opposites of each other.  This "call to arms" doesn't even make sense.

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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2011, 11:35:31 AM »
It's all in the anarchist handbook.  "From the bottom up, and the top down".  The White House is sending people to help in the protests in Wisconsin, as well as making statements against it's governor.  This is blatantly anti constitution.

If they can get us all fighting amongst ourselves, it's all over for this country.

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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2011, 01:31:35 AM »
I think the unions are bussing in protesters, not the fed's. Walker basically told the WH to stay out of state problems, you can't handle what you've got know. gypsyman
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