Author Topic: Pirates kill four Americans (Read 5816 times)

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #30 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:32:18 AM »

Piracy in INTERNATIONAL waters IS our concern. How much money does it take to erase a couple of small harbors? Chasing? I agree with you there. the problem should be eliminated at the source. I also agree that we should not become entangled in foreign affairs. The victims as it were, were NOT foreigners. Nerve gas applied in the regions of the harbors should make the area safe for at least a generation.

briarpatch · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:57:22 AM »

I think Dukkillr has this one right.

powderman · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:44:36 AM »

Doesn't matter how it happened. Four innocent Americans were attacked and murdered. All those godless scum should die, NOW. I have NO tolerence for punks. POWDERMAN.

Swampman · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:23:57 AM »

I agree as long as there's no cost to the taxpayers. There's no money to play police.

magooch · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:11:19 AM »

Since defending America and Americans must be the highest priority of our government, the money issue is moot. Or should I say, this is how things should be? With a halfrican for a leader, it's questionable if anything resembling finality will actually be done.

My main point is that it isn't worth our worrying about what becomes of the so-called innocent civilians that we should risk a single American troop on that piece of crap country. We should indeed be very precise with any retaliation. The nuke must be aimed well enough to hit the exact center of where the pirates reside.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:27:30 PM »

bigMikeA · « **Reply #36 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:00:49 PM »

Quote from: magooch on February 23, 2011, 11:11:19 AM

Since defending America and Americans must be the highest priority of our government, the money issue is moot. Or should I say, this is how things should be? With a halfrican for a leader, it's questionable if anything resembling finality will actually be done.

My main point is that it isn't worth our worrying about what becomes of the so-called innocent civilians that we should risk a single American troop on that piece of crap country. We should indeed be very precise with any retaliation. The nuke must be aimed well enough to hit the exact center of where the pirates reside.

absolutely! right on sir!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #37 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:46:29 AM »

Nix the federal board of education ( let states have it ) , nix NPR , Get out of the loan business , stop bailing out auto makers etc and cut unnessary wealfare , health care and unemployment . Use money to battle pirates etc.

Swampman · « **Reply #38 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:17:27 AM »

Let private and commerical vessels protect themselves. Big oil can afford it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:20:57 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on February 24, 2011, 05:17:27 AM

Let private and commerical vessels protect themselves. Big oil can afford it.

That would be the thing to do other than they can't arm merchant ships . Would you want every ship from anywhere in the world sailing into American ports armed ?

Avyctes · « **Reply #40 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:31:13 AM »

And why stop there, lets disband all police and let the civilians protect themselves. That's using the old noodle there, we could save a fortune, enough to wipe out our deficit.

Swampman · « **Reply #41 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:56:38 AM »

Quote from: Avyctes on February 24, 2011, 05:31:13 AM

And why stop there, lets disband all police and let the civilians protect themselves.

That's what our forefathers would have wanted. "An armed society, is a polite society."

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #42 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:20:38 AM »

As for federal police that might work . Let states be states . The concept of farmers in another state paying taxes to provide money for drug enforcement in a big city they will never visit seems odd.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #43 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:43:48 AM »

Please let me know if I am incorrect but I thought it was against international maritime laws for none military vessels to be armed. If that is the case how can that be changed and who enforces it? In most cases it appears that the pirates are armed with AKs and maybe a rocket launcher, that should not take that much armament to defend against. A few 20mm gatlings and some LAWS would go a long ways toward taking the fun out of being a pirate.
GuzziJohn

powderman · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:10:48 PM »

guzzi. I believe it had to do with stopping piracy, but all it did was disarm the law abiding, just like gun control. POWDERMAN.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #45 on:** February 25, 2011, 02:23:59 AM »

It had to do with military ships attacking non military or armed ships . If a ship was armed it was a target .

guzzijohn · « **Reply #46 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:23:46 AM »

Could "trolling" be done? For example take a yacht crewed by navy seals and do the same with some other boats/ships. It would not cost all that much and it would seem that it might give the pirates pause if they can never be sure that the next one will be easy pickings or to be met by overwhelming and accurate fire.
GuzziJohn

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #47 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:32:18 AM »

I hear this is being done on a private basis by some wealthy men who were attacked. I have no proof other than what people say.

Avyctes · « **Reply #48 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:51:31 AM »

This is a serious situation - but to add some levity to the topic - this would be the ultimate big game hunt. You get a 'guide', you get your choice of LAW, Ak47, flame thrower, etc.. You go out in a armored boat that appears to be a tycoons 1.2MUS yacht, bait in the pirates, and you bag'em with 'no limit'. That may sound a trifle hard core, but I don't feel any empathy for these criminals.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #49 on:** February 25, 2011, 06:57:35 AM »

Quote by Avyctes:

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This is a serious situation - but to add some levity to the topic - this would be the ultimate big game hunt. You get a 'guide', you get your choice of LAW, Ak47, flame thrower, etc.. You go out in a armored boat that appears to be a tycoons 1.2MUS yacht, bait in the pirates, and you bag'em with 'no limit'. That may sound a trifle hard core, but I don't feel any empathy for these criminals.

The pirates have displayed that they play hardcore so lets play.
GuzziJohn

Junior1942 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 25, 2011, 08:57:13 AM »

Did you guys know that Somalia has the best cell service in all of Africa? Obviously, the pirates paid for it. Cell towers are easy targets.....

scootrd · « **Reply #51 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:11:22 AM »

It time for this blight to be removed.

The no bag limit guided hunting trip is a novel Idea.
Could be a good start up Business.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #52 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:26:40 AM »

Quote from Junior1942:

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Did you guys know that Somalia has the best cell service in all of Africa? Obviously, the pirates paid for it. Cell towers are easy targets.....

Just force them to use T-Mobil, they won't be able to communicate in any kind of reliable way anymore.

GuzziJohn

powderman · « **Reply #53 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:31:15 PM »

A few months ago somebody posted a pirate hunt cruise with rates for types of weapons used, bag limits, etc. Anybody remember it?? POWDERMAN.

wreckhog · « **Reply #54 on:** February 26, 2011, 08:03:38 AM »

Quote from: Junior1942 on February 25, 2011, 08:57:13 AM

Did you guys know that Somalia has the best cell service in all of Africa? Obviously, the pirates paid for it. Cell towers are easy targets.....

I used to work for the US bank that originally put in cell service in Somalia. I shared an office with the manager of the project. The plan was to modernize the infrastructure in the country and develop the country for its resources. It was easier to put in cell service than land lines. Who modernized it, I don't know, but it was not a bunch of pirates.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #55 on:** February 27, 2011, 02:58:52 PM »

I say put a few of our ships off the Somalian coast and then dare the pirates to even put a boat in the water!

powderman · « **Reply #56 on:** February 27, 2011, 03:06:59 PM »

Quote from: Spirithawk on February 27, 2011, 02:58:52 PM

I say put a few of our ships off the Somalian coast and then dare the pirates to even put a boat in the water!

My sentiments exactly. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #57 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:11:37 PM »

I read today that the godless scum have captured a Danish yacht with 3 or 4 adults and 3 children on board in the Indian ocean. When they are caught there should be no prisoners. POWDERMAN.

scootrd · « **Reply #58 on:** February 28, 2011, 01:01:43 PM »

Quote from: powderman on February 28, 2011, 12:11:37 PM

I read today that the godless scum have captured a Danish yacht with 3 or 4 adults and 3 children on board in the Indian ocean. When they are caught there should be no prisoners. POWDERMAN.

This quite literally makes me ill. I am so exhausted reading about this. The international community needs to ban together and put an end to this madness now.

powderman · « **Reply #59 on:** February 28, 2011, 01:50:22 PM »

These godless scum are holding hundreds of prisoners and at least 30 vessels, that needs to be addressed quickly and decisively, then destroy the pirates taking no prisoners. These rabid animals have lairs that should be attacked without mercy. POWDERMAN.