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Who was America's Best President?
« on: February 23, 2011, 09:53:34 AM »
Before becoming interested (as an adult) in US history, I would have thought after Washington old Abe Lincoln was. After doing my homework.........Boy was I wrong.

He quite possibly was......."NO" HE is the worst ever.


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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 11:25:27 AM »
 Lincoln was certainly not the man of the hour as it would seem. More and more research is being done and is dulling the bright light he has been shown in, in the past. He certainly usurped ALOT of power.

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 02:54:25 PM »
Close. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the century. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 07:21:48 AM »
Close. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the century. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 07:22:59 AM »
Thomas Jefferson.....maybe the smartest man that ever lived.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 07:45:52 AM »
Could be, I like alot of the jeffersonian philosophies. T roosevelt I liked as well, didn't think much of fdr though, alot of his accomplishments were due to other "events". R reagan did not get the credit he deserved on alot of issues.

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 08:17:35 AM »
I don't know about all those who lived before me, but in my lifetime I remember Harry Truman.  He stood up against anti-semitism on May 14th, 1948 by signing a statement recognizing the state of Israel as an official Jewish State.
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 09:23:12 AM »
Washington , he set the example that worked . In my life time Regan.
Two that need mention are Carter and Obama both have galvanized the American voter to get involved in govt. more than any others .  ;)
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 09:51:35 AM »
 Thomas Jefferson. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 10:07:03 AM »
Lincoln make have been the worst.  But, he has a lot of competition with BHO.
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 10:18:26 AM »
Before becoming interested (as an adult) in US history, I would have thought after Washington old Abe Lincoln was. After doing my homework.........Boy was I wrong.

He quite possibly was......."NO" HE is the worst ever.


http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4549006/abe-lincoln-worst-president-ever/

Never believe the media.....
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 10:22:16 AM »
In my opinion, the only ones that clearly stand out as great presidents are:

Washington
Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt

Surely some of the others were able to rise to specific situations and act "presidential" but they weren't there all the time and didn't set the standard.

Reagan for ending the cold war, "defeating" the eastern bloc, getting the "wall" torn down etc.
Bush for response to 9/11
Kennedy for inspiring the race to the moon and standing tall in the Cuban Missile Crisis... of course the Bay of Pigs debacle sort of overshadowed that.
FDR for guiding us through most of WWII


I think after reading some of Washington's writings, he truly had the best interest of the nation for the short and long term at heart.  His admonitions against party politics and foreign alliances were spot on and then absolutely unheeded.  I'm sure he has been spinning like a gyroscope in his grave ever since the first shovel full dirt was tossed in...


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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 01:03:58 PM »
 For what it is worth

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 01:23:19 PM »
For what it is worth



Couple of those I would question...........One quit the NRA you know!

Former president George Bush, a gun enthusiast and decades-long member of the National Rifle Association, has resigned from the group because of its statements that agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are "jackbooted thugs" who harass gun owners.

"Your broadside against federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor, and it offends my concept of service to country," Bush wrote to NRA president Thomas L. Washington in a May 3 letter that was released yesterday. "It indirectly slurs a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us."
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 04:41:20 AM »
For what it is worth



Couple of those I would question...........One quit the NRA you know!

Former president George Bush, a gun enthusiast and decades-long member of the National Rifle Association, has resigned from the group because of its statements that agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are "jackbooted thugs" who harass gun owners.

"Your broadside against federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor, and it offends my concept of service to country," Bush wrote to NRA president Thomas L. Washington in a May 3 letter that was released yesterday. "It indirectly slurs a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us."

Funny really he could quit the NRA when he didn't like one statement by one other member that was with drawn ,so he could stop being a member and paying dues . Oh well how many times did he offend Americans ?
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 07:08:19 AM »
William Henry Harrison - he died before he could do any harm.

Second Jefferson - he ended the national bank, payed off the national debt, and kept us out of war with England.

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2011, 03:05:45 PM »
Early on, Jefferson. Closer to now, Reagan. Sorry, but from a Cherokee stand point, Jackson was a two faced scumbag!

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2011, 03:09:57 PM »
Old Teddy R. was surely a friend to sportsmen, but he also advocated socialized health care, and several other socialized programs that didn't fly in his day. 

I'd have to go Washington and Jefferson.

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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2011, 03:17:28 PM »
Lincoln was not only the worst president in this nations history, he is likly one of the worst if not the worst person to have ever set foot on our soil.

The best president and likly one of the smartest men to have ever lived, Thomas Jefferson.
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2011, 03:20:09 PM »
For what it is worth

I thought Bush later rebuked his Life membership. That was the strong rumor years ago. Don;t know if its true.
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2011, 05:28:43 PM »
Ronald Reagan.



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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2011, 03:08:41 PM »
Ya yes. James Knox Polk. Died at the age of 53. Only 100 or so days after leaving office. Cause of death: Profuse diarrhea.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2011, 03:22:54 PM »
Second Jefferson - he ended the national bank, payed off the national debt (Gary it wasn't Jefferson; it was Jackson who did the deed)

I think it was Washington. Here's a man who was loved by everyone in the country. The people wanted to make him king. He turned it down knowing it violated everything he believed in.

In modern times it was Reagan. He brought back pride to the US which was lacking after vietnam. Of course Obama and his libs go around saying we're sorry to the thugs of the world.

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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2011, 04:53:20 PM »
Jersey,
I have a great old book here that covers all the presidents through Nixon. Its got a condensed verison of all the facts about the guy and what he did as president. It also goes into the facts about birth, overall life and then death details. Its amazing about Polk. I laughed whern I saw that. But thats what it actually has as cause of death. :)
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2011, 05:07:58 AM »
cabin4,

probably got cholera from tainted water.
bad way to die.  killed thousands during the civil
war; probably more than the actual fighting.

You are correct. I did a little more research since we posted about this. It was cholera. So the book should say casue of death Cholera, not .......(no need writing that again).  :)
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Re: Who was America's Best President?
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2011, 09:09:04 AM »
Seems like most of the mainstream lists of "greatest Presidents" seem to rate 'em by how much they trampled on the Constitution in order to grow their centralized power base. Lincoln, FDR, etc.
Both created more trouble than they were worth, in order to move in and "fix" it all for everyone, "earning" their undying love and admiration.  ::)

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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2011, 03:49:49 PM »
Second Jefferson - he ended the national bank, payed off the national debt (Gary it wasn't Jefferson; it was Jackson who did the deed)

I think it was Washington. Here's a man who was loved by everyone in the country. The people wanted to make him king. He turned it down knowing it violated everything he believed in.

In modern times it was Reagan. He brought back pride to the US which was lacking after vietnam. Of course Obama and his libs go around saying we're sorry to the thugs of the world.
Jefferson just about paid it off in his first term. His second term he had problems with England that cost him, but kept us out of war.

I would go along with Washington if he had not listened to Hamilton's merchantilism. I don't think Washington was all that well educated, but he was very honest and respected.
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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 11:03:20 AM »
I remember as a fourth grader we discussed who was our "favorite" president. It was naturally between Lincoln and Washington. I chose Washington and some friends chided me saying "Washington was rich, Lincoln was poor". I remember being totally baffled as to what that had to do with anything. George Washington really was the father of our country, he risked his life on the battlefield and in the fever ridden camps for seven years to make this country possible.
Lincoln was never anything but a lawyer and a politician. I can't decide which profession is the more disreputable.
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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2011, 12:10:18 PM »
Number 13,   Millard Fillmore

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« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2011, 12:16:55 PM »
1.) Thomas Jefferson , Democratic-Republican Party hands down.

In more modern times

2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at hw low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45  - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared).

Total employment during Roosevelt's term expanded by 18.31 million jobs, with an average annual increase in jobs during his administration of 5.3%.

Thank God and FDR for the TVA

3.)  Reagan , not so much for his policies or for his presidency but for his persona and integrity.
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