Author Topic: Obama Birthcertificate is a Forgery (Read 3041 times)

lgm270 · « **on:** February 23, 2011, 02:49:12 PM »

Some interesting analysis of the Obama “Certificate of Live Birth” (COLB).

Obama was purportedly born on August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, HI.

After the controversy surrounding his birth arose during the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama’s campaign in Chicago produced a purported, certified copy of Obama’s COLB, which was produced for examination to individuals from Factcheck.org.

According to this COLB, Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was “filed” with the Hawaii Dept. of Health on August 8, 1961, and was assigned certificate number 151 1961 010641. Color photos of this COLB are posted on the Factcheck.org web site.

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Well, afterwards, two twin sisters named Susan and Gretchen Nordyke came forward, and produced their own birth certificates showing that they were both born, within minutes of each other, on August 4, 1961 a the same hospital where Obama was purportedly born the previous day. Their birth certificates are both posted on line, as follows:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2009/Jul/28/M1139416728.GIF

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347

http://state-of-the-nation.com/5878/nordyke-twins-born-barack-obama-birth-certificate-numbers/

http://www.biasedmediaboycott.com/index.php?topic=80.0

The interesting thing is that the Nordyke’s certificates were filed with the Dept. of Health, on August 11, 1961, three days after Obama’s. The Nordyke's certificate numbers are 61-10637 and 61-10638. Strangely, the Obama certificate, purportedly filed first, has A HIGHER CERTIFICATION NUMBER (1961-010641), than the Nordyke sisters’ who were filed three days later. The fact that Obama’s certificate number is out of sequence is very persuasive evidence that it is a forgery. Official records are filed in chronological order. The numbers go forward, not backward.

Also, the newspaper birth announcements for the Nordyke sisters have been located and posted on line.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Dec/22/ln/hawaii812220320.html

Official records are numbered in chronological order. When the numbers are out of sequence with the dates (i.e. higher number for earlier date), this is evidence of fraud and forgery.

bigMikeA · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:55:15 PM »

I don't understand. What is your point?

crustylicious · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:01:54 PM »

Shu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:15:48 PM »

You seriously think his place of birth hasn't been vetted by many federal agencies?

Perhaps this should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:22:22 PM »

http://us.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f681049%5fAMTHtEQAASf3TWPRwwST3Bo%2bQYI&pid=1.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1

A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said "Sir Edward F. Lavender” Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
Source(s): “ Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library."
And here’s a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read "Coast Providence of Kenya " and the
official signature of the Deputy Registrar.....

http://us.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f681049%5fAMTHtEQAASf3TWPRwwST3Bo%2bQYI&pid=1.5&fid=Inbox&inline=1

billy_56081 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:28:10 PM »

Your links are broke 45-70.

lgm270 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:54:27 PM »

Quote from: bigMikeA on February 23, 2011, 02:55:15 PM

I don't understand. What is your point?

Official records are recorded chronologically. Documents are recorded and numbered in the order that they are filed or recorded. Documents filed first have lower certification numbers than documents filed subsequently. If you file a lawsuit today, it will have a lower number than a lawsuit filed next week. If you record a deed or a mortgage at a recorder's office today, it will have a lower certification number than one filed tomorrow or at any subsequent time. Public agencies go forward, not backward with their certificate numbers.

Obama's birth certificate was filed on August 8, 1961 with the Registrar. If it were authentic it would have a lower number than birth certificates filed three days later on August 11, 1961 because certificate numbers are issued in chronological order.

Do you get my point now?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:54:53 PM »

How about this 45-70.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:58:39 PM »

Everything about obama is a fraud.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:08:42 PM »

here is a link to some more reading
and up to date info.....date document was signed was 20th day of january, 2011

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=254401

bigMikeA · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:35:09 PM »

Quote from: lgm270 on February 23, 2011, 03:54:27 PM

Quote from: bigMikeA on February 23, 2011, 02:55:15 PM
I don't understand. What is your point?

Official records are recorded chronologically. Documents are recorded and numbered in the order that they are filed or recorded. Documents filed first have lower certification numbers than documents filed subsequently. If you file a lawsuit today, it will have a lower number than a lawsuit filed next week. If you record a deed or a mortgage at a recorder's office today, it will have a lower certification number than one filed tomorrow or at any subsequent time. Public agencies go forward, not backward with their certificate numbers.

Obama's birth certificate was filed on August 8, 1961 with the Registrar. If it were authentic it would have a lower number than birth certificates filed three days later on August 11, 1961 because certificate numbers are issued in chronological order.

Do you get my point now?

yeah. if you are trying to demonstrate that the obamination and his birth certificate are a fraud, I do. thank you.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:07:02 PM »

I will believe our government is corrupt until the day I rot through the bottom of my casket. no, really.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:27:11 AM »

Give it up folks and move on to something more productive. At this point even if "proof" could be found by the time it was confirmed and acted on Obama's first term of office would be over with anyway. At best might prevent a second term if you are still concerned that Obama is going to get reelected.
GuzziJohn

45-70.gov · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:33:16 AM »

what i find really hard to believe

it really makes me question their intelligence

some people still belong to the DEMOCRAT PARTY

OBUMER is the best they had to offer

and hillery the other clinton was runner up

lets not forget nancy peloci and the other democrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

would one of you democrats explain why your still a democrat !!!!!!

guzzijohn · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:57:37 AM »

Maybe because the best the republicans could offer was McCain/Palin.
GuzziJohn

beerbelly · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:18:27 AM »

At this very moment in time ,under the Obama rule and foreign policy, we are losing the entire middle East and access to the oil they produce. Oil prices are skyrocketing along with gas prices. Which will bring economic ruin to the USA.
Is this due to incompetence or is it his plan to make us into a third world country? Either way he continues to destroy the country and the liberals still think he is better than McCain/Palin!

magooch · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:22:12 AM »

Yeah, I was going to say, McGore/Palin would be lookin mighty good right now.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:46:47 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on February 24, 2011, 03:57:37 AM

Maybe because the best the republicans could offer was McCain/Palin.
GuzziJohn

you have a very good point

and if all the 3rd party folks
and all the few decent democrats

would join the republicans.......like i just left the libertarian party of 20 years

then the ''liberal'' republicans can be gone in the primary elections

i considerd mcain one of the worst choices they could have made
he was still head and shoulders above obumer or hillery

and it doesn't answer my question
why are you still a democrat?

??

gstewart44 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:47:57 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on February 24, 2011, 03:27:11 AM

Give it up folks and move on to something more productive. At this point even if "proof" could be found by the time it was confirmed and acted on Obama's first term of office would be over with anyway. At best might prevent a second term if you are still concerned that Obama is going to get reelected.
GuzziJohn

and make null and void all executive orders issued by him or bills signed by him, prevent the taxpayers from paying $200K/year for life in pension to the fraud,

powderman · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:50:18 AM »

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would one of you democrats explain why your still a democrat !!!!!!

4570gv. I might be able to shed a bit of light on your question. The dems are the only party out there that has all the really important perks that they find so important. Killing babies seems really important to them, and supporting homosexuals and gay marriage is another perk they can't seem to live without, can't forget supporting illegal criminals over Americans. The dem party is the only one out there that offers these things. Some even say they are for the 2nd am and are gun owners, but they vote for and support a rabidly corrupt anti gun party, which of course once again is the dems. I could go on but I think you get my drift. Does this help you to understand??? POWDERMAN.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:58:50 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on February 24, 2011, 03:27:11 AM

Give it up folks and move on to something more productive. At this point even if "proof" could be found by the time it was confirmed and acted on Obama's first term of office would be over with anyway. At best might prevent a second term if you are still concerned that Obama is going to get reelected.
GuzziJohn

If it was found he could not be president then every law he signed into law and every order he proclaimed would be subject to reversal . Now consider those hurt by the bail out of GM . The car dealers put out of business or the stock holders . The health care bill ...................
You move on maybe we should move forward and prove for sure what is true . He could out of office and these things could still be effected .

45-70.gov · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:07:56 AM »

mccain was not born in america

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:09:24 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on February 24, 2011, 05:07:56 AM

mccain was not born in america

Were his parents BOTH Americans ?

guzzijohn · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:45:25 AM »

Quote from Shootall:

Quote

Now consider those hurt by the bail out of GM . The car dealers put out of business or the stock holders

Without the bailout there probably would be no GM dealers left and no stock for the stockholders, instead we now have this:

GM reports first annual profit since 2004
GM says it earned $4.7 billion in 2010, compared with a loss of $21 billion the year before. Among the beneficiaries are employees -- approximately 45,000 union workers are to receive bonuses of $4,300.

GuzziJohn

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2011, 06:21:50 AM »

After two hundred years of one party calling poop a turd, and the other party calling poop doodoo, why are we the people still putting up with the same crap? d's and r's, different train, same destination. (date copywrited

)

45-70.gov · « **Reply #25 on:** February 24, 2011, 06:31:08 AM »

Quote from: Pat/Rick on February 24, 2011, 06:21:50 AM

After two hundred years of one party calling poop a turd, and the other party calling poop doodoo, why are we the people still putting up with the same crap? d's and r's, different train, same destination. (date copywrited )

thats just the way it is

the winner of the next few elections will be a democrat or a reppublican

so you want to support some party that will also include many good folk
[wasting a vote and effort like i did for 20 years with the libertarians]

or you can join the lessor of 2 evils
the lessor of 2 eveils will be easier to fix than the democrats

EITHER WAY YOU CHOOSE
THE NEXT WINNER WILL BE A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT

THERE IS NO CHOICE
ONLY A FEEL GOOD 3RD PARTY VOTE
[and i cast plenty of those myself....i am not picking on you]

beerbelly · « **Reply #26 on:** February 24, 2011, 06:35:07 AM »

GM reports first annual profit since 2004
GM says it earned $4.7 billion in 2010, compared with a loss of $21 billion the year before. Among the beneficiaries are employees -- approximately 45,000 union workers are to receive bonuses of $4,300.

They should have gone bankrupt , reorganized and lived or died on their own! They are not making a profit as they still owe the people of this country billions and the unions are already screaming for more!
Ford did not take the low road and become part of the Obama enterprise. If I buy a car or pickup it will be a ford not an Obama vehicle
I was a GM man all my life, but never again.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2011, 06:51:10 AM »

Yep, right beerbelly. If GM is making a profit, they should buy back the government shares of stock and break away from government control. Ford refused the bailout, and bailed themselves out by selling their foreign owned interests, like Jaguar, their 25% interest in Madza, etc to pay off debt. GM ended up doing the same with our money. Same with Chrysler. You know Germany did this in the 1930's. One aircraft company was making passenger planes in Germany and wouldn't make bombers. Hitler had their government take over controling interest in the company so they could convert the passenger planes to bombers. It is a dangerous thing for government to take over companies. That is why our government never did until now. Communists in Russia after the 1917 revolution took over all the factories and means of production and created the Soviet state. Nazis did the same but only bought the controling interests in companies and allowed capitalism otherwise. (Nazi = National Socialists, Communist = Soviet Socialists) Not much difference. Our constitution says the government can regulate commerce between the states, but nothing about owning it. Feds are not supposed to own or regulate anything if the company only does business inside a state and not across state lines.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #28 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:16:01 AM »

45-70. didn't even take it as such

. I agree that they will be d or r, not enough people have got fed up yet. (I don't really affiliate myself with any one party, I vote on merit. IF I had to choose, I would say Constitutionalist

)

dixie d, good post, well stated. Fords CEO came to ford after turning boeing around. He's a business smart guy, and not afraid to make small sacrifices to save the larger share.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #29 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:29:17 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on February 24, 2011, 05:45:25 AM

Quote from Shootall:
Quote
Now consider those hurt by the bail out of GM . The car dealers put out of business or the stock holders
Without the bailout there probably would be no GM dealers left and no stock for the stockholders, instead we now have this:

GM reports first annual profit since 2004
GM says it earned $4.7 billion in 2010, compared with a loss of $21 billion the year before. Among the beneficiaries are employees -- approximately 45,000 union workers are to receive bonuses of $4,300.

GuzziJohn

Yes because GM is exempt from federal tax on the next 40 billion dollars , this was done so the govt could sell its stock at a profit . When you look at the number of GM workers vs those who paid in federal income tax it would have effected more people in a positive way long term if has if GM was allowed to go bankrupt and reorganize. Union pay off !