Author Topic: Scum shot after dragging leo over 2 blocks. (Read 1880 times)

powderman · « **on:** March 02, 2011, 05:59:06 PM »

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http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/03/02/2888367/hundreds-protest-fort-worth-police.html#my-headlines-default

Now the blacks are protesting police brutality. POWDERMAN.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2011, 06:26:57 PM »

Too bad he lived long enough to commit the deed of dragging the LEO. Of course they're gonna protest.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2011, 03:45:37 AM »

As you sow, so shall you reap.

Live the life of a drug dealer, be ready to suffer from the consequences.

There is a "counter culture" in our cities. Men who live beyond the law, users, players, who know no boundaries.

The war going on near our southern border wages far beyond, into the streets of our cities.

Securing our southern border, turning the tide of the cartels is, IMO, more important than the war on terror, yet our officials do little to curtail it.

Old Fart · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2011, 02:39:41 PM »

From the article:

"This man was killed with three children in the car," Montgomery said. "I ask people all over the world: If your father, your mother or your brother was killed with children in the car, how would you respond?"

It always amazes me how this gets turned around.
Nevermind he was probably dealing drugs while those kids were in the car.
Nevermind he failed to respond to a lawful order.
Nevermind he could have killed the cop doing this.

They want crime off the streets, but when they do it, it becomes a tragedy.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2011, 04:00:49 PM »

Everyone knows that if the cops shoot someone, they deserved it. And everyone knows that Drug dealers are necessarily bad, and LEO is good.

Right?

hunt-m-up · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2011, 06:14:30 PM »

I guess next time the cop should shoot his own arm off...!?
On a positive note, maybe the kids will remember this before they set up their own meth lab.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2011, 06:27:38 PM »

They'll remember it daily, their Dad being shot to death by some guy screaming at him.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2011, 07:28:23 PM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on March 05, 2011, 06:27:38 PM

They'll remember it daily, their Dad being shot to death by some guy screaming at him.

Hopefully they do, maybe they won't follow his footprints!

srussell · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2011, 07:30:54 PM »

i just wonder what people think he should have done. o we have kids in the car so ill just let him kill me

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2011, 04:15:42 AM »

Quote from: srussell on March 05, 2011, 07:30:54 PM

i just wonder what people think he should have done. o we have kids in the car so ill just let him kill me

You'll have to ask those people. But I'll hazard a guess that some, rather than reflexively taking the position that perp was a scumbag, he deserved to be shot to death! or Cop was a jackboot, he deserved to get dragged! - some would say this was a grim outcome, and another hard casualty in the War on (some) Drugs.

nothing to celebrate

billy_56081 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2011, 05:30:23 AM »

Yelow I'd say something butobviously you are not worth the time off. No wonder GB banned you before. Maybe you should go to Jaurez and see what your hunger for drugs has caused. I used to goto Jtown every weekend for I and I, we were less likley to be a vicitm there than in El Paso, now it is a war zone.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2011, 08:56:47 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on March 06, 2011, 05:30:23 AM

Yelow I'd say something butobviously you are not worth the time off. No wonder GB banned you before. Maybe you should go to Jaurez and see what your hunger for drugs has caused. I used to goto Jtown every weekend for I and I, we were less likley to be a vicitm there than in El Paso, now it is a war zone.

peoples' "thirst for drugs" collided with The Noble Experiment in the 20s, and people wised up in less than fifteen years and repealed prohibition. That worked better than calling consumers and suppliers scum and celebrating their deaths. The War on (some) Drugs has done far, far more damage. You got something to say? Say it. But don't say something you would not be willing to say face to face. That's a prob with the internet; it encourages bad behavior and the sort of nastiness people would never put up with face to face.

Anyhow... I'll drive by Juarez in a few weeks. Shall I wave at you?

powderman · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2011, 11:31:42 AM »

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Anyhow... I'll drive by Juarez in a few weeks. Shall I wave at you?

yellow. Big shock you supporting the bg. Now maybe his kids will have a chance at a real life. Best stock up. POWDERMAN.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:24:54 PM »

Quote from: powderman on March 06, 2011, 11:31:42 AM

yellow. Big shock you supporting the bg. Now maybe his kids will have a chance at a real life. Best stock up. POWDERMAN.

POWDERMAN - no big shock, you calling someone scum you never met.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:35:09 PM »

Spirithawk · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:35:30 PM »

Gee, the cop had to shoot the guy to save his own life. I suppose you'd have done differant and let him kill you? Fact, the BG knew his kids were in the car when he decided to drag the officer. Fact, he knew they were still there all the while the officer was being dragged and demanding he stop. So, it's the officer's fault the kids were in the car? It was his fault he had to shoot the father to save his own life? Yes it's sad the kids had to see it. Sadder still that they'll always remember it, but put the blame where it belongs on their father! He forced it to happen through his own actions. Not only did he not care about the life of the officer but he put his kids in danger to save himself from what was most likely just a night or two in jail.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:43:50 PM »

Well said Spirithawk.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:48:46 PM »

I have to say Ron White was correct.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:50:11 PM »

Quote from: Spirithawk on March 06, 2011, 01:35:30 PM

Gee, the cop had to shoot the guy to save his own life. I suppose you'd have done differant and let him kill you?

Probably not; I probably would have shot the guy, too. But then I'm not a drug warrior, and I don't ever stick my arm into someone's car to force them to open the door (that'll get thrown in jail & charged with assault)

Quote from: billy_56081 on March 06, 2011, 01:48:46 PM

I have to say Ron White was correct.

So was Mitsuo Fuchida and Abe Lincoln.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2011, 01:59:43 PM »

It's certainly easier to criticize the badge than wear it huh?

Dee · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2011, 02:40:20 PM »

yellowtail is always against the grain. I met a lot of drug dealers and their families. The families suffer because of the dealer in the family. He has little or no ambition to work, and usually bullies the rest of the family, going on occasional drug induced tares where he terrorizes his own family threatening them, and beating them. He's a natural born loser, and that is why he is a drug dealer in the first place.
The officer didn't put those children into this incident. Their father did. That alone should tell you something about the dealer. Why would any man take his children around drug addicts. After 20 years of L.E. I am somewhat sociopathic toward folks like drug dealers, and folks like yellowtail. I just don't give a damn what they think about anything. If it weren't for that thin blue line called the police officer, someone long ago would have beat hell out of yellowtail, or killed him, and took all his stuff.
Drug dealers contribute nothing but misery to this world, and make their living selling this misery. Folks like yellowtail have lived a protected life, all their life, and are spoiled to it, not having a clue as to whom gives them the freedom to live out their selfish little lives. If it weren't for the police he would be looking out his shades, and could not even got to work for fear of someone robbing his house and harming his family while he was gone. He is too self righteous, and selfish to realize this, and doesn't appreciate what the police officer provides for he and his family. He has never thought that it would be unsafe for his wife and children to do the simple things such as go to the store if it weren't for the police officer he so resents.

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:17:34 PM »

DEE. Great post, I agree and have thought the same thing.

yellow. I've never met bin laden either but it is safe to say he is scum.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:36:43 PM »

Quote from: Dee on March 06, 2011, 02:40:20 PM

yellowtail is always against the grain.

On lots of subjects. Is that against the rules?

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The officer didn't put those children into this incident. Their father did.

You know, I agree with you on that.

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After 20 years of L.E. I am somewhat sociopathic toward folks like drug dealers, and folks like yellowtail. I just don't give a damn what they think about anything.

sociopathic toward... folks like yellowtail... does that mean you'll just disregard my rights? That you'll be unpleasant/ Or that when you're around, folks who you disagree with need to have their Hi Power in in their Fobus?

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If it weren't for that thin blue line called the police officer, someone long ago would have beat hell out of yellowtail, or killed him, and took all his stuff.

No disrespect intended - though I think you intend some? - but that's plain silly. Many believe - and police would have them believe! - that the police keep them safe. The police, however, are not personal bodyguards. They do act as a general deterrent to crime, both by their presence and by apprehending criminals after the crime... but they don't protect. I'll fine without you, Dee. I've been assaulted once, police were of no help. None of the property stolen from me was ever recovered by police. And you well know that courts have held that police have no legal obligation to protect anyone in particular. When was the last time someone successfully sued the cops for failing to keep them from being victims of crime?

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Drug dealers contribute nothing but misery to this world, and make their living selling this misery.

Like the folks who ran 'shine back in '29, right?

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Folks like yellowtail have lived a protected life, all their life, and are spoiled to it, not having a clue as to whom gives them the freedom to live out their selfish little lives.

Folks like me? Sheltered? Clearly, we've not met.

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If it weren't for the police he would be looking out his shades, and could not even got to work for fear of someone robbing his house and harming his family while he was gone.

See above. Police keeping us safe from the rabble of criminals? I might feel the same, if I were drawing your paycheck.

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He is too self righteous

only righteousness I've got comes from Jesus, and I know it. Where do you get yours? You badge and sense of self-importance?

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to the store if it weren't for the police officer he so resents.

Not all of us walk around in fear, Dee, and even fewer think we owe our safety to you.

Lighten up and be nice?

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:40:11 PM »

Can't we all just get along?

Dee · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2011, 04:07:17 PM »

Exactly the reaction I anticipated. Rest assured yellowtail, I retired 17 years ago and care not.

powderman · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2011, 03:44:03 AM »

Quote from: Dee on March 06, 2011, 04:07:17 PM

Exactly the reaction I anticipated. Rest assured yellowtail, I retired 17 years ago and care not.

DAN. YEP, he's not worth the bother. Charlie.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:09:52 AM »

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Prior to, I had met numerous jackasses, but on June 19, 1978, I went to see the elephant. After puttin a few much deserved holes in the appropriate areas. I went home and cleaned my pistol.

so then... was that a white elephant you killed & then went home nonchalant?

MGMorden · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:55:04 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on March 05, 2011, 04:00:49 PM

Everyone knows that if the cops shoot someone, they deserved it. And everyone knows that Drug dealers are necessarily bad, and LEO is good.

Right?

I personally am very much against the whole "war on drugs" nonsense - to me I see no reason why the government should have any business dictating what consenting adults put into their own bodies.

THAT SAID, the guy drove off with an officer's arm caught in the window and refused to stop. This shooting was completely justified, plain and simple. I don't care if it was a 90 year old granny pulled over on suspicion of jay-walking - if you put an officer's life in danger you're going to be put down, and I have no sympathy there.

dukkillr · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2011, 06:15:03 AM »

Quote from: MGMorden on March 07, 2011, 04:55:04 AM

Quote from: yellowtail3 on March 05, 2011, 04:00:49 PM
Everyone knows that if the cops shoot someone, they deserved it. And everyone knows that Drug dealers are necessarily bad, and LEO is good.

Right?

I personally am very much against the whole "war on drugs" nonsense - to me I see no reason why the government should have any business dictating what consenting adults put into their own bodies.

THAT SAID, the guy drove off with an officer's arm caught in the window and refused to stop. This shooting was completely justified, plain and simple. I don't care if it was a 90 year old granny pulled over on suspicion of jay-walking - if you put an officer's life in danger you're going to be put down, and I have no sympathy there.

I agree. There are plenty of stories about cops acting like out of control Rambo-wanna-be thugs (or, as the NRA called them, "Jack booted thugs"). This just isn't one of them. Guy made a bad and dangerous decision that got him killed. He got what he deserved.

You should have hitched your wagon to a stronger horse.

Dee · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2011, 09:16:20 AM »

When Wayne LaPierre made the statement about "jack booted thugs" he was talking about ATF agents, whom many, like the FBI hold law degrees. Not city and county cops. Your statement on this was taken totally out of context to demonize the regular street cop.
There are also plenty of stories of law twisters in court rooms, distorting the facts to win cases, or get criminals off.
As far as the dope dealer getting what he deserved, we actually agree on that issue.