Author Topic: Keeping track of the daily love and peace cult attacks. (Read 25711 times)

ironglow · « **Reply #180 on:** May 20, 2011, 05:28:22 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on May 20, 2011, 05:24:27 AM

Quote from: ironglow on May 20, 2011, 05:17:41 AM
TM..read carefully; IT'S-IN-THEIR-NATURE !!
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This is a necessary reciprocal of the 'chosen' idea...i.e. somebody has to be the lessor inferior races, or enemy.......basically racial and evolution conceptionalizing; and is just plain ridiculous, not to mention improper Biblical interpretation. The Founders soundly trounced on this false concept in the first few opening lines of the Dec of Indep.....and we all know this country was established on Christian ideas,,,right IG...!!??

Christ put an end to all this nonsense....

..TM7

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But those tribes had nothing to do with founding this country ! And this country was founded upon Christian principles, something those tribes rejected ages ago...and are reaping the results of even today.

powderman · « **Reply #181 on:** May 20, 2011, 07:57:41 AM »

tm. Thanks for my first good laugh of the day. Nothing to misunderstand about Gods word. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #182 on:** May 21, 2011, 03:16:32 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on May 20, 2011, 06:06:57 AM

Quote from: ironglow on May 20, 2011, 05:28:22 AM
Quote from: TM7 on May 20, 2011, 05:24:27 AM
Quote from: ironglow on May 20, 2011, 05:17:41 AM
TM..read carefully; IT'S-IN-THEIR-NATURE !!
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This is a necessary reciprocal of the 'chosen' idea...i.e. somebody has to be the lessor inferior races, or enemy.......basically racial and evolution conceptionalizing; and is just plain ridiculous, not to mention improper Biblical interpretation. The Founders soundly trounced on this false concept in the first few opening lines of the Dec of Indep.....and we all know this country was established on Christian ideas,,,right IG...!!??

Christ put an end to all this nonsense....

..TM7
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But those tribes had nothing to do with founding this country ! And this country was founded upon Christian principles, something those tribes rejected ages ago...and are reaping the results of even today.
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What!! your basing your whole paradigm on ancient tribalism, racial superiority and therefore evolution using distorted Biblical reference; eg. claiming a whole race of people is inferior and one superior (the Ancient Conspircy.. ) based on a single Genesis line about tenacity supposedly written thousands years before the moslem faith was even organized,,,huh! Then the Bible goes on in detail claiming 1st born Ishmael was also blessed. Then when our Founders re-assert basic Christianity...all men are created equal (refuting chosenist right then and there clearly)....you selectively cognitate this all away to promote a questionable war....when the real war is for your mind, also Biblically documented.

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Please Note....below this thread is a "mocking of Christ's cruxifixion" thread..doesn't matter who does this kind of mocking,,,BUT NOTE>>NOT WANT ALLEGED CHRISTIAN OR JUDAEO-CHRISTIAN HAS COME FORTH TO DENOUNCE THIS KIND OF CRAP...you have a problem of theosophy.

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TM;
What is all that gibberish above ? I said nothing about one human being superior to another. I referred to the tribal model simply because it is an integral part of their culture and it is referred to continually in news reports of the mideast. So often troops must deal with locals and the "tribal elders"...don't knoe where you,ve been for the last 10 years..
Sure; all men are "created equal", but what they do with their lives and loyalties after that is up to them ! Some choose good things, some bad...some choose to be a benefit to mankind; some choose to be a habitual criminal and a dreg of society.
Then you go on to say;
"There are only two of the Abrahamic faiths that reject the teachings of Christ,,,,hardcore judiasm in theory and hardcore judaeo-christianty in practice,,,the world's newist religion"
A couple falsehoods are to be pointed out here;
1) Muslims absolutely reject Jesus' most profound teaching..that jesus IS the Son of God..and God the Son.
2) just because you call orthodox Christianity Judeo-Christianity..that doesn't mean you are correct ! You are NOT correct...and you have used what is known as a "straw man" argument ! ...But then, that is a constant habit you have cultivated.

Such is evident whenever you tell another poster such things as.. " In other words you are saying"... Don't try to slip in "other words"..let each stand on his/her OWN words, not on your interpretation of their words !

powderman · « **Reply #183 on:** May 21, 2011, 04:29:52 AM »

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1) Muslims absolutely reject Jesus' most profound teaching..that jesus IS the Son of God..and God the Son.

IRONGLOW. TRUE Sir. They also reject all of the teachings and practices of Jesus Christ, preferring the ways of their pedophile false prophet mohamed. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #184 on:** May 21, 2011, 04:04:36 PM »

TM; more gibberish when you say:
" FYI...moslems don't catergorically reject Christ as you propagandize...they consider him Messiah, The Redeemer, etc....God sent and blessed etc.....that's more than I can say for your co-religionist. Moslems defend Christ and Mary against the relentless mocking and defilment of Christ by detractors, such as the mocking of the crucifixion...a thread I started to see if just one, JUST ONE, judaeo-christian here would comment on this outrageous blasphemy,,,apparently not one having cajones-presence of mind to do so. Sad."

They are not defending Christ when they say "God has no son".
Jesus said " Ye are either with me or against me, ye either sow with me or scattereth abroad" . (Matt 12:30)

TRhe Jews do not all yet "sow with him" but more each day do. The Muslims seem to be more hopeless, although in Africa Christians are making inroads on the Muslims, however.

Still, neither Christians nor Jews run around these days..sawing off people's heads... for not accepting their beliefs...

powderman · « **Reply #185 on:** May 21, 2011, 04:51:40 PM »

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FYI...moslems don't catergorically reject Christ as you propagandize...they consider him Messiah, The Redeemer, etc....God sent and blessed etc.

HEH. I had a muslim tell me he was taught that Jesus would return to kill all the Christians and Jews and take the godless ones to paradise. YEP, he believed in Jesus alright. You are a real riot tm. POWDERMAN.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #186 on:** May 23, 2011, 03:16:52 AM »

Jesus said their would be false ones coming after Him and lead many astray. Which Jesus?

ironglow · « **Reply #187 on:** May 23, 2011, 01:23:49 PM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on May 23, 2011, 03:16:52 AM

Jesus said their would be false ones coming after Him and lead many astray. Which Jesus?

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DD; Which Jesus ?...Extrapolate please..and I'll give it a shot.

powderman · « **Reply #188 on:** May 23, 2011, 02:42:05 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on May 23, 2011, 01:23:49 PM

Quote from: Dixie Dude on May 23, 2011, 03:16:52 AM
Jesus said their would be false ones coming after Him and lead many astray. Which Jesus?
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DD; Which Jesus ?...Extrapolate please..and I'll give it a shot.

IG, I don't understand either. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #189 on:** May 24, 2011, 06:31:07 PM »

Murderous attacks are up to 17.236 now. DD. What to you mean which Jesus?? POWDERMAN.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #190 on:** May 25, 2011, 02:31:33 PM »

The Jesus Christians believe in and the one the Muslims believe in. The Muslim Jesus is not the one we know and trust.

powderman · « **Reply #191 on:** May 25, 2011, 03:03:16 PM »

DIXIE DUDE. Thanks. Neither is the REAL God, their god. They use Jesus name to try and convince the world that they too believe in him. POWDERMAN.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #192 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:32:16 AM »

Yep, if they believed what He said like: "I am the way, the truth, and the life" "No man comes to the Father except through Me" "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" "I and the Father are One". Also, Paul said, Jesus is the Godhead, bodily. Godhead being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Just a few simple statements from His own lips as to who and what He is. Jesus also warned of false prophets and false messiahs that will come after Him. Hmmmm. Islam started around AD 600 something. The angel Gabriel talked to Mary and Elisabeth about Jesus and John being born. How could the true angel Gabriel tell Mohammad something different? Jesus warned of false angels also. Satan and the demons are fallen angels. Hmmmm. All one has to do is read the Bible and not try to interpret it. The Bible even says it is not for anyones private interpretation.

powderman · « **Reply #193 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:10:52 PM »

DIXIE DUDE. Anybody that would believe islam would have to believe that God changed his mind about his son Jesus and salvation. Their mohamed was not a prophet of God, he was a murdering, pedophile child rapist false prophet, and islam a false religion. Good to know that there are those of us who know the truth. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #194 on:** May 28, 2011, 01:37:45 AM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on May 26, 2011, 09:32:16 AM

Yep, if they believed what He said like: "I am the way, the truth, and the life" "No man comes to the Father except through Me" "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" "I and the Father are One". Also, Paul said, Jesus is the Godhead, bodily. Godhead being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Just a few simple statements from His own lips as to who and what He is. Jesus also warned of false prophets and false messiahs that will come after Him. Hmmmm. Islam started around AD 600 something. The angel Gabriel talked to Mary and Elisabeth about Jesus and John being born. How could the true angel Gabriel tell Mohammad something different? Jesus warned of false angels also. Satan and the demons are fallen angels. Hmmmm. All one has to do is read the Bible and not try to interpret it. The Bible even says it is not for anyones private interpretation.

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Dixie Dude;
Amen to that ! I was just a bit slow on the uptake, I guess..
Yes, the announcement went like this;

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us" (Matthew 1:23)

Note: This event was prophesied hundreds of years earlier, in (Isaiah 9:6)...

Jesus himself, goes on to warn us about 'false prophets' who would later arise;

"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many" (Matthew 24:10)

Finally, please note; for those who deny that Jesus is God in the flesh;

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2 John 7)

powderman · « **Reply #195 on:** May 28, 2011, 07:46:11 PM »

IRONGLOW. The count is now 17,252 acts of hatred and death. They just bombed a restaurant in Pakistan slaughtering 8 more. At least the godless ones aren't prejudiced, they will shed anybodys blood. It's the blood ya know, don't really matter whos it is. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #196 on:** May 29, 2011, 09:32:16 AM »

Makes one wonder just what kind of beasts they had in that restaurant. Do you suppose they were Pteradactyls.. tyrannosaurus Rex, saber toothed tigers, crocodiles ? How about the ones under 10 years old ? Whatd do you suppose made them so dangerous that they had to be killed ?

Remember what God said about the Ishmaelites, 4,000 years ago:

American Standard Version
"And he shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand'shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his brethren" (Gen 16:12)

powderman · « **Reply #197 on:** May 30, 2011, 08:19:00 AM »

tm. Wrong again. Where does it say that Jesus did away with the ishmaelites?? You say that the godless ones accept Jesus as saviour and redeemer?? Tell us what they expect Jesus will do when he returns?? Which Christian wife did the pedophile prophet send?? The 7 year old or the 9 year old?? We all read the Bible, just not yours. POWDERMAN.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #198 on:** May 30, 2011, 08:47:10 AM »

"Ignorant racist stuff" from the comedian who became famous for his, "the Jews did it" catch phrase. Now that is funny, thanks for the laugh.

powderman · « **Reply #199 on:** May 30, 2011, 10:56:06 AM »

tm. As usual you answered nothing and threw out the race card. I ask again. What do you and your godless friends think that Jesus is going to do for them since he is their saviour and redeemer?? And where did Jesus do away with the ishmaelites?? Nothing racist about my post. POWDERMAN.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #200 on:** May 30, 2011, 11:25:08 AM »

Powderman, TM doesn't understand that what God put in place in the OT like His promises to Abraham's seed, etc stays in place until or unless He specifically did away with them in the New Testiment like Jesus sacraficed Himself for our sins, so we no longer have to scrafice a lamb. Or Jesus showed us how to show mercy and compassion like to the woman caught in adultry, and stoneing is no longer necessary. Jews are still offered salvation as well as Muslims, but they have to accept it. The 10 commandments are still valid. As a Christian, He writes them on our hearts. I don't care what Jews or Muslims think about Jesus, they still have to accept Him as God incarnate and as savior or they will get the same fate. The Jews were promised the Holy Land (Palestine) so it is theirs. God didn't change this. God also said anyone who blesses Abrahams seed (through Issac) will be blessed, and those who curse Abrahams seed will be cursed. That is why America has been blessed because we backed Israel. Once we turn our backs on them we will be cursed as a nation. Only Christians can keep this from happening. We are the salt of the earth to keep it palatable to God, but if we can't keep things palatable, we are no longer any good. That is why we must vote, pray, and keep things Godly. Jews have a promise of the land. Ismauels seed can't get along with anyone, even their brothers. It shows. Only way they can is salvation through Jesus Christ.

powderman · « **Reply #201 on:** May 30, 2011, 11:52:22 AM »

DIXIE DUDE. Amen to that brother. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #202 on:** May 30, 2011, 11:49:34 PM »

Dixie Dude;
I can only add an "AMEN" to what you said . I am beginning to be convinced that we as a nation are being tried with the unusual and destructive weather we have been having...because we have been foolish enough to elect a leader and administration which dislikes Israel. This terrible onslaught was brought upon us, starting with the air..in the form of tornadoes etc. Remember, God need not punish us Himself; all He need do is just remove His protection for a time ..and let the "prince of the power of the air"....do his thing !

King James Bible
"Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience" (Ephesians 2:2)

ironglow · « **Reply #203 on:** May 30, 2011, 11:58:28 PM »

In his post #223, TM gives us the following quote;

"Oh disciples, do not cast pearls before swine, for the swine can do nothing with them . . . wisdom is more precious than pearls and whoever rejects wisdom is worse than a swine."

TM...give us a reference please....

Although it sounds vaguely familiar to (Matt 7:6) it still wanders far from it..including things which were not said there..

ironglow · « **Reply #204 on:** May 31, 2011, 12:09:39 AM »

OK TM;
Never mind, you have 'tipped your hand'...
I was reading an esssay on how Islam has co-opted much of Jesus sayings, where the author quotes the Islamic version (some would say per-version) of Jesus' quotes. Here's what I found;
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Many of the sayings of the Muslim Jesus are clearly derived from Biblical sources - "Place your treasures in heaven, for the heart of man is where his treasure is"; "Look at the birds coming and going! They neither reap nor plough, and God provides for them." Sometimes there is a sort of gloss on words of Jesus from the Gospel: "Oh disciples, do not cast pearls before swine, for the swine can do nothing with them . . . wisdom is more precious than pearls and whoever rejects wisdom is worse than a swine".
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Probably more cogent, from the Christian point of view was this section of the essay;
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No offence, but Muslims love Jesus as much as Christians do
"The Muslim Jesus is not divine, but a humble servant of God. He was not crucified - Islam insists that the story of the killing of Jesus is false. He is, as it were, Jesus as he might have been without St Paul or St Augustine or the Council of Nicaea."
By John Casey, Daliy Telegraph (London) 19 December 2001
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Please, next time you want to quote the Bible..QUOTE THE BIBLE..not the Koran..or some other book.
On the other hand, if you are quoting the Koran..just say so..

DADGUMMIT !... Busted again !

powderman · « **Reply #205 on:** May 31, 2011, 05:03:17 AM »

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Please, next time you want to quote the Bible..QUOTE THE BIBLE..not the Koran..or some other book.
On the other hand, if you are quoting the Koran..just say so..

DADGUMMIT !... Busted again !

IRONGLOW. YEP. The godless ones pervert Gods word for their own twisted agenda, which of course IS to pervert Gods word. False prophet, false doctrine, anything to lead folks away from God and the REAL JESUS CHRIST. Ol tm has been making false Bible quotes for many years now, I'm glad you found where they were coming from. He, or she, has said many times that his, or her god, is NOT our God, neither is his, or her bible, our Bible.
The attacks are up to 17,258 now. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #206 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:19:41 AM »

TM says;
"I'll quote whatever I want..."
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Sure TM, help yourself.. I only suggested that you be forthright and honest when quoting ! We as a group, were quoting our Bible;
If you want to quote your holy book, at least have the frankness to say so !
I think you simply answered off the top of your head, quoting a verse you remembered from repetitious study..

We've all seen the videos of those students in Koran classes, bobbing their heads up and down while memorizing !

...still think you've been busted..

Look at the ads of this page..even Ron Paul is laughing ...

billy_56081 · « **Reply #207 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:26:44 AM »

IG you must remember that it iswhatever fits his agenda.

gypsyman · « **Reply #208 on:** June 01, 2011, 03:17:12 AM »

Matthew 7:15 ( Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. ) gypsyman

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #209 on:** June 01, 2011, 03:47:34 AM »

Buddishs say a lot of the same things, but they don't go around suicide bombing and killing civilians. Modern Christians do not advocate suicide killing, nor never have advocated suicide killing of any kind. Why, why, why, over and over do Muslims do this? Why, why, why do they have honor killings? Why, why, why, do they put women as second class or as property? Christians and Jews do not do this.