Author Topic: Hand Gonne Contest - 2011/2012 (Read 5093 times)

Cat Whisperer · « **on:** March 11, 2011, 02:53:10 PM »

Good thinks happen over supper with good friends - Douglas, Katherine, Darlene and I were recalling our association of nearly a decade.

ONE of our fun things to do was to make a golf-ball mortar. I had some steel, Douglas had some white oak and a contest ensued. (I'll leave it to y'all to search.)

THIS YEAR's contest is to make a hand gonne! Rules are yet to be determined. I may even be able to find some steel or stainless available for the postage. On your own for the material for the tiller. Posting a sketch or drawing will be a part of it, and of course pictures of it and pictures of smoke and flame.

What say ye?

Extended a year for US slow guys to FINISH something!

RocklockI · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:41:11 PM »

I think its a good idea ,I'll play

rampa room artillery · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:45:30 PM »

im game sounds like fun, and body in the hampton roads area is welcome to come over and make one at my shop.

rick bryan

irishman · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:50:14 PM »

I'm in.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:57:02 PM »

OK, it's on!

Open classifications - write your own by describing it in your plans - scale (like fire-cracker) or full size.

HIstorical replica, practical/functional or 'target model'. (Obviously I'm being creative.)

I'll start looking trough the scrap metal bin.

Double D · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2011, 04:07:22 PM »

See Tim, I told you they would like it!!!

I'm still thinking to keep a level playing filed on this they need to use the materiel we provide. Well. you that you provide

rampa room artillery · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2011, 04:10:04 PM »

just give us specs on what we can use, size material, length ball size?

go big or go home,

rick bryan

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2011, 04:19:28 PM »

Quote from: rampa room artillery on March 11, 2011, 04:10:04 PM

just give us specs on what we can use, size material, length ball size? go big or go home,
rick bryan

Give me a day or two to formalize rules. My preference is to have it open - to encourage creativity. Like BB caliber, firecracker caliber. Brass or stainless. Plain or ENGRAVED. Machined or cast. Finding material or not finding material could be limiting.

Post pix of design, process of building and of firing. Perhaps of targets too.

Scientific American held a national contest a few years ago (1965?) about making paper airplanes - many professional entries. They awarded one MORE prize than they had categories - because somone submitted a dollar bill folded up into an airplane with the caption "because it goes so fast". They hadn't considered SPEED.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2011, 04:23:03 PM »

OK, here's the first 'rule'.
Each entry will be in an individual thread, titled: Hand Gonne Contest - 2011 (instert name/title here).

Minimum components will be: plans, pix of building it, and pix of firing it.

All board rules of safety and legality apply.

gulfcoastblackpowder · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2011, 04:28:42 PM »

Sounds like fun. I don't have a machine to make one on (don't even have a vise - no less a press or lathe), so it could get interesting, but I'd like to give it a try. Maybe I'll have to get around to buying a vise.

GGaskill · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2011, 06:19:45 PM »

I don't have a machine to make one on ...

First, you have to decide on a design. Then make a drawing and plan.

Regarding a contest, I'm in depending on the rules.

gulfcoastblackpowder · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:39:45 PM »

Your right that the first step is design, but the first step of a good design is knowing production capabilities and material supplies.

I've got an idea already flopping around in my head that will allow me to use hand tools and air grinders if I get a vise. Waiting for more information regarding the raw stock before I proceed to the design phase.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:41:40 PM »

George - at the moment I don't see any need for any more rules.

I'll start a thread (or you may if you wish) on techniques and hints on making them. (YOU have a LOT of links and posts on just that!)

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:46:38 AM »

I have available (for the postage) 9 pieces of 416 stainless that are 5/8" diameter and a little over 4" long. (for firecracker caliber hand gonnes.)

brokenpole · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:19:06 AM »

Quote from: gulfcoastblackpowder on March 11, 2011, 04:28:42 PM

Sounds like fun. I don't have a machine to make one on (don't even have a vise - no less a press or lathe), so it could get interesting, but I'd like to give it a try. Maybe I'll have to get around to buying a vise.

Gulf, I'll take ya one step further. I don't have the skills either.

I was actualy thinking of a paper towel toll tube duck taped to a tree branch that the wind blew down. Tim wants fire and smoke and that design would certainly give him that. I think it might miss the boat a little on accuracy. Heck it would miss the boat, the barn and everything else. Oh well...I have always said that all I want to do it hit the ground every time.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:37:38 AM »

Quote from: brokenpole on March 12, 2011, 01:19:06 AM

Quote from: gulfcoastblackpowder on March 11, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Sounds like fun. I don't have a machine to make one on (don't even have a vise - no less a press or lathe), so it could get interesting, but I'd like to give it a try. Maybe I'll have to get around to buying a vise.

Gulf, I'll take ya one step further. I don't have the skills either. I was actualy thinking of a paper towel toll tube duck taped to a tree branch that the wind blew down. Tim wants fire and smoke and that design would certainly give him that. I think it might miss the boat a little on accuracy. Heck it would miss the boat, the barn and everything else. Oh well...I have always said that all I want to do it hit the ground every time.

I think we've got a candidate here for the really-low-tech version! Lookin' forward to seeing it!

Really! What tools did they have in 1300 or 1400? Not much.

dan610324 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2011, 09:15:07 AM »

no not much tools back then , but they knew how to use a hammer

rifleshooter2 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2011, 10:46:54 AM »

Ok I'm in too. I really need to get back into building again and nothing like a contest to get the ball rolling.

Andy

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:02:02 PM »

Quote from: Cat Whisperer on March 12, 2011, 12:46:38 AM

I have available (for the postage) 9 pieces of 416 stainless that are 5/8" diameter and a little over 4" long. (for firecracker caliber hand gonnes.)

Add to that a number of 7/8" dia x 4-5-maybe 6" 316 stainless
one odd piece of 1" stainless,
several 1-1/4" x 7" or so stainless

and a few 12mm x 3-1/4" stainless.

For golf-ball caliber a few DOM pieces of 1144SP and rounds - both need to be cut to correct diameter.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:21:37 PM »

Darlene says, You guys are nuts!

She's a good judge of character.

rifleshooter2 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:11:02 PM »

I'm digging through my scrap pile to see what I can come up with, What Fun

Andy

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2011, 02:51:44 PM »

I think I've got a 4 foot section of a 40mm barrel in the garage.

I think I'll skip this one.

gulfcoastblackpowder · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2011, 03:34:46 PM »

I'll probably have to take you up on the offer of steel, but I'm not sure the easiest scale to do by hand. May ask for one micro size piece (thinking bb size) and one larger size so I can try both.

rifleshooter2 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM »

A 4 foot section of 40mm barrel OHHHHHH

What I could make with that

Andy

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2011, 04:02:23 PM »

Quote from: Ex 49'er on March 12, 2011, 02:51:44 PM

I think I've got a 4 foot section of a 40mm barrel in the garage.

I think I'll skip this one.

AARRRGHHH! Reconsider! Claypipe built some MAGNUM hand gonnes!! A little different construction and beefed up in key places.

But, seriously, having something that is pleasent to shoot and easy to get ammo for, makes it fun!

GGaskill · « **Reply #25 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:00:43 PM »

George - at the moment I don't see any need for any more rules.

So my micro Tannenberg for #7 1/2 shot would qualify and a full scale Tannenberg would qualify and almost anything else.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #26 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:06:04 PM »

Quote from: GGaskill on March 12, 2011, 06:00:43 PM

George - at the moment I don't see any need for any more rules.

So my micro Tannenberg for #7 1/2 shot would qualify and a full scale Tannenberg would qualify and almost anything else.

YES - by all means publish the links and any new pix of the process, drawings and of course the smoke and flame!

rifleshooter2 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:16:51 PM »

Here are a few gonnes I made in the past. just to give you all a few ideas. I'm working on the sketch of a new one now for the contest.

.62 Cal

Another .62 Cal firing a blank load

a 1 inch bore

A 50 cal

ok now back to work on my new one
Andy

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #28 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:54:09 PM »

Andy - Thanks for posting the pix! I like the lines of the .50 ! The concept of the assembly methods used in the 1" may well be the key for someone putting one together too.

Double D · « **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2011, 01:15:14 PM »

Quote from: rifleshooter2 on March 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM

A 4 foot section of 40mm barrel OHHHHHH

What I could make with that

Andy

If he has hands big enough to hold a hand gonne with a 4 foot 40 mm barrel, I'm not big enough tell him no.