Author Topic: What is a Foid Card? (Read 4643 times)

nw_hunter · « **on:** March 12, 2011, 09:41:07 AM »

I didn't even know such a thing existed, and then I get this..................Are there any other states that require a citizen to have a Firearm Owners Identification Card?

MORE THAN 1.3 MILLION GUN OWNERS ARE ABOUT TO HAVE THEIR NAMES MADE PUBLIC.

Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan is demanding that state police RELEASE THE NAMES OF EVERY PERSON IN ILLINOIS WHO HOLDS A FIREARM OWNER'S IDENTIFICATION CARD (FOID).

To own a gun in Illinois, you must register for an FOID card. Up until now, the list of names has been kept private by state police, but Attorney General Madigan's office says the public has "a legitimate interest" in knowing the names of registered gun owners.

The only "legitimate interest" is by anti-gun zealots who want to restrict and eventually ELIMINATE your right to own a gun

This is an INVASION OF PRIVACY.

We stand with the Illinois State Police in wanting to keep this information PRIVATE! Please join the CCRKBA in FAXING ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL MADIGAN and the Attorneys-General in ALL FIFTY STATES to express your opposition to this ruling, and make sure it doesn't happen anywhere else. We also need your immediate donation to the CCRKBA to help us protect the rights of gun owners across America and stop this kind of unconstitutional intrusion into the lives of American citizens. We ask for your committed support to help make sure our Second Amendment rights are kept safe.

STOP THIS BEFORE IT SPREADS TO YOUR STATE... PLEASE SEND YOUR FAXES AND DONATIONS NOW!

In September, the Associated Press requested the names of each FOID cardholder through the Freedom of Information Act. State police said no... and now Attorney General Madigan has ruled the names can be made public.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2011, 09:49:13 AM »

FOID= Firearm Owners I.D.

williamlayton · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:28:52 PM »

Our CCW is made public in Texas.
Who cares---I don't.
Blessings

Cabin4 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:33:41 PM »

CCW= Concealed Carry Weapon permit?? Am I correct?

nw_hunter · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:39:28 PM »

I don't see any other state requiring gun owners to have in their possession a FOID (Firearm Owners Identification card) to legally possess or purchase firearms or ammo. And they have had this law on the books since 1968. Good reason not to live in Ill.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:46:13 PM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on March 12, 2011, 01:39:28 PM

I don't see any other state requiring gun owners to have in their possession a FOID (Firearm Owners Identification card) to legally possess or purchase firearms or ammo. And they have had this law on the books since 1968. Good reason not to live in Ill.

What do you expect from the state that brought us a muslim for president.

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2011, 02:12:17 PM »

This FOPID card, is it only for CCW/handguns...or is it for long firearms as well ?

Old Syko · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2011, 02:17:08 PM »

As I understand it it is required to purchase firearms, ammo, and even loading components. Someone from Ill. will surely tell us.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2011, 03:37:43 PM »

I still have my FOID card from when I lived in IL. You need it to buy ammo or a gun. You also must have one in order to handle a gun at a gun store. There is no carry permit process in IL. Or at least one that the common person can apply for. I do seem to recall that you have to be deputized by your county sheriff to get a carry permit. SO to say the least, not many get one.

torpedoman · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2011, 04:03:40 PM »

In Washington they are trying to publish the addresses of those with carry permits. I think its a great idea if anyone is stupid enough to try to break in here i can use it to say they were warned by the press that i was armed. I look at it as a osha for criminals they can avoid getting shot by going to unlisted addresses.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2011, 04:09:34 PM »

Only a Nazi politician would propose such a law and only a Nazi would vote for it.

powderman · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2011, 03:18:05 AM »

The foid card in ILL started back in the 70s I believe, we always referred to it as our communist card. When my brother got back from Nam he was shocked to find out that he couldn/t even buy a pack of bbs without the foid. My uncle had his pic taken with a derby hat on crooked, a cigar drooping out of one corner of his mouth, and making a face. I threw my ILL card away many years ago.
I've written their gov several times giving him my name, social, address, and phone # and invited him to have his people investigate me and then explain why I should be treated like a criminal when I cross the state line. All I get are his news letters. POWDERMAN.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2011, 05:58:35 AM »

Funny, the Gov of Illinois are being investigated as criminals. Former Gov Ryan is in jail and former Gov Rob B is close to going to jail. Nothing new there. The criminals have been running that state for years and they treat the citizens like trash.

smokeeater3302 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:07:10 PM »

I dont want to have my name and expiration date of my card published for any reason . I cant see any good coming out of this . As far as the foid card goes it was a simple way for more restrictions to be placed on IL . I know that most people believe that it wont matter to have your name made public , I don't want to take that chance. They say that the public has a right to know who among them owns firearms . I dispute that I don't have the option to protect my self outside of my home . Why should the associated press be able to erode what little right to self defense I have . If we have lawmakers with any sort of a backbone they will use this to pass CC . The only hope for self defense outside of my home is to get a fanny pac and hope for the best . I am interested to see how this one turns out .

Curious to know why the want the expiration date on each card ?

Matt3357 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:19:09 PM »

As far as I am concerned there is absolutely no point to the FOID card other than for the Gov to know who owns guns. It doesn't get you past a background check or wait period for purchasing a firearm. It doesn't allow you to conceal carry. It does absolutely nothing. They don't even track when you buy ammo or anything with it. Pointless other than for the Gov.

Matt

GRIMJIM · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2011, 02:57:37 PM »

Quote from: Matt3357 on March 13, 2011, 12:19:09 PM

As far as I am concerned there is absolutely no point to the FOID card other than for the Gov to know who owns guns. It doesn't get you past a background check or wait period for purchasing a firearm. It doesn't allow you to conceal carry. It does absolutely nothing. They don't even track when you buy ammo or anything with it. Pointless other than for the Gov.

Matt

Absolutely. It is a tax on gunowners plain and simple. We have to go through the same background check most ccw holders have to and all it does is allow us to purc hase firearms (handguns and long guns) and ammo and components. Also there is still a waiting period when you purchase a firearm so they can run a background check on you again.

ironglow · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2011, 04:34:04 PM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on March 13, 2011, 05:58:35 AM

Funny, the Gov of Illinois are being investigated as criminals. Former Gov Ryan is in jail and former Gov Rob B is close to going to jail. Nothing new there. The criminals have been running that state for years and they treat the citizens like trash.

Cabin4;
Let's face it the worst TRASH in the whole situation are the politicians who slither out of the Chicago political machine and into federal offices !

Cabin4 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2011, 06:13:35 PM »

IG,
Very true.

Matt3357 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:02:40 AM »

Quote from: GRIMJIM on March 13, 2011, 02:57:37 PM

Absolutely. It is a tax on gunowners plain and simple.

I wouldn't even call it a tax these days. With a 10 year lifespan, they can't be making much revenue off of them especially since it is so cheap to begin with. Probably costs them more to maintain the database than it brings in.

Matt

45-70.gov · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:22:45 AM »

does massa2shits have such a card??

i try to look at the positive side of this

find every liberal democrat that has voted to restrick gun ownership of others
then find their name on the gun owners foid list
EXPOSE THE HYPOCROCY

then maybe they will repeal this thing
atleast it may get rid of a few democrats

Mike38 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2011, 04:43:40 AM »

FAQ's on the Illinois FOID card.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2011, 05:47:14 AM »

MIKE. Thanks for the link. When we go to that communist state I pull off at the 1st rest area and lock my 38 in the trunk, where it is of course no use to me. All that crap came from the daly machine in chicago, uhhhhhh, the same place the obamination lived. POWDERMAN.

Mike38 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2011, 02:21:25 PM »

Quote from: powderman on March 15, 2011, 05:47:14 AM

MIKE. Thanks for the link. When we go to that communist state I pull off at the 1st rest area and lock my 38 in the trunk, where it is of course no use to me. All that crap came from the daly machine in chicago, uhhhhhh, the same place the obamination lived. POWDERMAN.

You are welcome Powderman. There are lots of misconceptions about the Illinois FOID, that’s why I posted the link. Some people think it’s a CCW permit of sorts. Even a few Illinois politicians think it is. It’s nothing that would even resemble a CCW permit. I live in the United Progressive Socialist State of Illinois. Not really because I want to, I’m stuck here. But, no one is really forcing me to stay I guess. With King Richard Daley on his way out, some here have dreams of CCW in Illinois. As for me, I’m not holding my breath. Recently I signed up to take a “Utah CCW” class, but backed out. It could be said that those Illinois residents with a Utah CCW will have a jump on a Illinois CCW, but I don’t think that’s going to happen, ever. I do often carry (legally for Illinois) when I head into cities, or am spending the night in a motel somewhere. I have a Beretta 92FS and four 15 rounds mags in a hard side case I keep under the bed in the back of my van. Mags loaded, but pistol empty. I figure it would take me about 15 seconds be become locked and loaded, but that’s probably about 10 seconds too long. I guess it’s better then nothing.

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2011, 02:29:42 PM »

Do you really think being exposed as a Hipocrit bothers any of these slim balls

Hell hypocrocy is part of the job description.

And that goes for both sides. If they do end up publishing the names they will end up spending Millions on trying to figure out how to exclude the Police and politicians who have cards . Even if you are LEO you still need the card to carry of own a gun in Illinois. Kurt

powderman · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2011, 04:00:16 PM »

MIKE38. A couple of years ago I had a friend send me an application for an ILL foid card. I carefully read everything and there was nothing saying I had to live there. I sent it in along with $10. They said I was inelligible but kept my $10. POWDERMAN.

gypsyman · « **Reply #25 on:** March 16, 2011, 04:16:43 AM »

I've done alot of gun shows over the years, in states bordering Ill. I found it quite hilarious that the gestapo in Ill. could think a foid card made a difference. gypsyman

nw_hunter · « **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2011, 03:11:29 PM »

Quote from: gypsyman on March 16, 2011, 04:16:43 AM

I've done alot of gun shows over the years, in states bordering Ill. I found it quite hilarious that the gestapo in Ill. could think a foid card made a difference. gypsyman

It's comforting to know, that a FOID card has now made it safe to walk the streets of Chicago and East St Louis

powderman · « **Reply #27 on:** March 17, 2011, 03:25:43 PM »

NW_HUNTER. A few years after that commie card was adopted a friend of mine was murdered. He was a social worker and they were giving a Christmas party for the under priveleged families. One of the fathers came in and shot Frank in the head, he didn't want his family accepting charity. The police couldn't understand why this scum didn't have an foid card. Ironicaly Frank had studied to be a priest and his wife of less than a year had dropped out of a convent. POWDERMAN.

cjclemens · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2011, 10:08:13 AM »

Quote

What do you expect from the state that brought us a muslim for president.

Just a point of clarification: He's not from Illinois - he just stopped in Chicago for a while on his way to Washington.

I, too am a resident of the People's Republic of Illinois. The sad fact is that every time Chicago picks a politician, the rest of the state has to deal with it. As far as the FOID card goes, its a waste of space in my wallet. The system doesn't even work, so why does even exist? FOID cards are a prime example of how making new laws wont solve crime - only enforcing the rules currently on the books will. Case in point - the kid who shot up Northern Illinois University had a FOID card. He had previously been rejected by both the Army and a security company for failing a psych profile. However, the state of Illinois still saw fit to give him a FOID card, so he could go buy those firearms legally. Its clear to me who's responsible - the people who administer the FOID program. Will anything change as a result? Probably not, but I feel better now that I've said my piece.

Mike38 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2011, 10:17:55 AM »

cjclemens , I have to agree with that. I used to work at a place that had a janitor that was legally considered mentally retarded. He was a nice enough guy most of the time, but on occasion there was a mean streak in him that would rear it’s ugly head, to the point of being scary at times. He had a FOID card. The picture on his FOID card was fuzzy, at a distance, and showed him wearing a Native American Headdress. He wasn’t Native American so why that get-up I’ll never know.

My point is, the goons at the Illinois State Police FOID office don’t do background checks on applicants. They don’t even check the picture you send with the application. They take your $10, rubber stamp the approval, and move on to the next coffee break. Typical State of Illinois employees.

The FOID card here in Illinois is a joke. If it did indeed keep firearms out of the hands of violent felons, then I probably wouldn’t say much against it. But it doesn’t work.