Thanks Frank I'll check out Starline, This ones a Shiloh, It's been sitting unfired in a gun safe since it was delivered in 2004. I bought it two weeks ago, I had been thinking about a Sharps rifle for a good while and when I came across this carbine I decided to go for it. I don't do any long range target shooting but I just always loved the Sharps. I thought I'd get a 45-70 as I already have a 45-70 lever action and reload for it. But this one was 50-70 so I gotta get the dies and such.