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Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« on: March 26, 2011, 07:38:46 PM »
I'am i right to assume that a Serrated edge is (hard) to resharpening, but will hold an edge longer and cut better on tough surfaces?  Is there anything else i'm missing??  Reason i'm asking is i just oder a (SPYDERCO- H1) with spyderco-serratted edge  8) the H1 steel is soupose to be impervious to rust and stains.  This will replace my Benchmade D2 steel blade for all duty knife from gutting fish to deer!! and for (QCC) what you guys think?? Now i just have to waite it might take 4 weeks they say  :(  >:(

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 08:29:47 PM »
How many fish and deer do you gut each year?

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2011, 03:46:03 AM »
i don't know who first put a serrated edge on knife blades,but when spyderco started doing it they were targeting law enforcement and emergency workers. I believe the serrated edge was made for cutting people out of seat belts.....Mike

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2011, 05:49:12 AM »
i don't know who first put a serrated edge on knife blades,but when spyderco started doing it they were targeting law enforcement and emergency workers. I believe the serrated edge was made for cutting people out of seat belts.....Mike

Sound about right on the seatbelts , for me it works well on rope, tough hide, small bones, and even small wire in a pinch.  I've only had experience with a partially serrated blade and have no desire to own a fully serrated.
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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2011, 02:05:02 PM »
How many fish and deer do you gut each year?  Fish, hopefully boats loads ;D, Deer hopefully 3  8) O- i forget lots of boxes and rope!!

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2011, 02:07:46 PM »
i don't know who first put a serrated edge on knife blades,but when spyderco started doing it they were targeting law enforcement and emergency workers. I believe the serrated edge was made for cutting people out of seat belts.....Mike

Sound about right on the seatbelts , for me it works well on rope, tough hide, small bones, and even small wire in a pinch.  I've only had experience with a partially serrated blade and have no desire to own a fully serrated.
Why is it too hard to maintained??

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2011, 02:29:51 PM »
How many fish and deer do you gut each year?  Fish, hopefully boats loads ;D, Deer hopefully 3  8) O- i forget lots of boxes and rope!!
The reason I ask is because the knife you're talking about isn't very good for either.  For fish you want a super-sharp thin blade.  I like longer ones generally. 

For deer you want a short stiff blade with good spine (if you're going to cut ribs) and a narrow blade if you're going to do caping. 

With both you're looking for a sharp clean cut, exactly the opposite of what you get from a serrated blade.  They are more designed for cutting fiberous stuff.  Great for sailing.  Good for opening boxes.  I've used them for building turkey blinds.  But you don't want one for cleaning animals.

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2011, 02:38:22 PM »
Generally speaking I buy a reg blade. I can get it shaving sharp if its good steel.

A knife with a serrated edge will cut tough to cut materials easier and faster. Harder to sharpen, yes. Impossible, no far from it.

I have a couple knives I like to keep with certain concealed carry guns. Kinda like a spare magazine. They will always be at least partially serrated.

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 03:40:18 PM »
serreted knives are great! till they are dull. they can be sharpened, if yu got the patience.i like a rusty ole carbon blade

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2011, 05:13:43 PM »
i don't know who first put a serrated edge on knife blades,but when spyderco started doing it they were targeting law enforcement and emergency workers. I believe the serrated edge was made for cutting people out of seat belts.....Mike

Sound about right on the seatbelts , for me it works well on rope, tough hide, small bones, and even small wire in a pinch.  I've only had experience with a partially serrated blade and have no desire to own a fully serrated.
Why is it too hard to maintained??
I carry several different partially serrated folders for field dressing deer. I use the sharp plain section of the blade for all of the main work and sometimes the serrated section comes in handy if the going gets a little tough, but it's not necessary, just personal preferrence. I can't imagine ripping and tearing thru a deer with a fully serrated knife.
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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2011, 08:12:25 PM »
They are getting so popular that I have trouble getting a straight blade sometimes. I haven't ever tried one, call me an ol stick in the mud, but I want a knife in my pocket not a saw.

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2011, 08:37:15 PM »
How many fish and deer do you gut each year?  Fish, hopefully boats loads ;D, Deer hopefully 3  8) O- i forget lots of boxes and rope!!
The reason I ask is because the knife you're talking about isn't very good for either.  For fish you want a super-sharp thin blade.  I like longer ones generally. 

For deer you want a short stiff blade with good spine (if you're going to cut ribs) and a narrow blade if you're going to do caping. 

With both you're looking for a sharp clean cut, exactly the opposite of what you get from a serrated blade.  They are more designed for cutting fiberous stuff.  Great for sailing.  Good for opening boxes.  I've used them for building turkey blinds.  But you don't want one for cleaning animals.
I understand what your saying, I have a benchmade D2 steel knife that's half serrated but it not rust proof and the H1 steel is, it's going to be my (mane carrey /self-defense knife)...kinda like, better to have it when needed then not have anything at all.  I have other knives for other purpose  8).

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2011, 03:48:11 AM »
You're not related to Jamal are you?

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2011, 06:35:33 PM »
Partially serrated blades remind me of a screwdriver with a crescent wrench for a handle. A gimmick that seems like a good idea, but two functions in one often detract from both.

I bought one thinking it had to be useful to cut certain materials but never found it to be better than a regular blade.
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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 10:58:34 AM »
How many fish and deer do you gut each year?  Fish, hopefully boats loads ;D, Deer hopefully 3  8) O- i forget lots of boxes and rope!!
The reason I ask is because the knife you're talking about isn't very good for either.  For fish you want a super-sharp thin blade.  I like longer ones generally. 

For deer you want a short stiff blade with good spine (if you're going to cut ribs) and a narrow blade if you're going to do caping. 

With both you're looking for a sharp clean cut, exactly the opposite of what you get from a serrated blade.  They are more designed for cutting fiberous stuff.  Great for sailing.  Good for opening boxes.  I've used them for building turkey blinds.  But you don't want one for cleaning animals.

What he said exactly. I carry a fully serrated spyderco endura for self defense only. The knife has awsome ripping power as well as a strong point. It is not however an allpurpose blade nor would I clean game with it.

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2011, 05:15:49 PM »
i hate serrated blades. i also hate the fact that most of the knives i find that i actually like only come with a serrated blade. i have no need for one and will not buy one. i just bought a SOG Valcan Tanto, smooth blade, i can't wait for it to get here.

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 06:28:27 PM »
the last knife I had with a serrated blade. I put on the grinder and removed it.
Dont like them and have not found a use for one.

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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »
I have fiddled with a couple of serrated carry blades off and on through the years and just dont care for them. I have yet to try cutting seat belts, but doubt that would be very often in my lifetime, not being an EMT or such. I dont cut a rope unless I really, really have to (ie, cut it off twice and its still too short). I guess the only time I found serrated good was cutting bread because it gets through the crust without squishing the loaf. I cant imagine it being better working on game or cutting meat on the kitchen cutting board.
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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 04:03:19 PM »
Someone gifted me a serrated knife one time.  I re-gifted it to someone else.  I have some old carbon knives that will finish this run along with me,  the grandkids can have all the rest.
 
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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 04:24:32 PM »
  I like serrated blades in the kitchen..used on soft stuff like bread and tomatoes.  I like a regular edge for the pocket or field.
  Frankly, I like the old carbon blades much better than the SS stuff.  Yes, carbon will discolor..but that is to be expected. As far as rust is concerned we shouldn't treat any of our knives like that.  I dealt in knives for years and even took some trade-ins or discounted  a new one when somebody handed me their old one (even if it was worth zip).
   I still carry some of those old carbon trade-ins.  Can't get a quicker, sharper edge on the SS blades (IMO).
    If you definitely want a serrated edge knife...Cutco; located about 25 miles from my house has some teriffic knives with an unbelieveable lifetime guarantee.  They are unbelieveably keen with their own design serrated edge..  If it ever gets dull, Cutco will resharpen it free of charge for as long as the knife lasts.  If I bought a Cutco at a garage sale and it was defective...like the Zippo lighters of old..just trade it in to the company.
    Beautiful cutlery..but at a high price, 4 or 5 knives in a block can run several hundreds..sold by personal contact salespersons only.  I have a veterinary friend that hunts locally and harvests a couple caribou in northern Quebec annually.  He has the orange handled Cutco serrated and has yet to send it back for sharpening.  The knife is so keen that this veterinary of nearly 50 years experience which includes much surgery, cut his own hand quite severely, so be careful.  Still, I like carbon..but with Cutco, the company takes care of the sharpening for free.
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Re: Purpose of a (Serrated edge) ?
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 02:03:47 PM »
Hello folks, new member and first post as I looked through the site....looks good !
Never previously owned a serrated knife in > 50yrs of carrying one. Reading some reports of the Cutco Double D and bought it and a straight edge, both with orange handles.
Our deer wallow in gritty mud and when skinning a wallowed animal the grit just takes the edge off the sharpest knife in no time at all. The DD seems to take the dulling affect of the grit in its stride and will just keep on going when your straight edge would be touched up dozens of times on a steel.
The DD seems to respond to use of the steel, I just use 'very light pressure'  to keep it sharp.
Its the knife I reach for if a dirty/tough job presents. Its round 2yrs old and hasn't been returned to them for sharpening yet. Cost here is round $10 for up to three knives I believe.
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