Author Topic: My H&R Handi Sniper Rifle .223 (Read 5887 times)

joeyant · « **on:** March 30, 2011, 02:15:24 PM »

Bought an unused/unfired .223 Handi Rifle with bull barrel and scope mount. The seller also threw in an extra brand new 12 ga barrel, heavy duty scope mounts, and an illuminated 3-9X40 NCStar rangefinder scope. Got all of it for $125 because the seller needed the money to fund another project. He told me he bought it as an impulse buy for about $200 and then realized he neither wanted it nor needed a single shot rifle/shotgun.

So I exhanged the original hardwood stock with an ATI "tactical" telescoping stock and forend. I also attached an ATI cartridge holder which holds 10 .223 rounds. Also installed a spare sling just lying around the house. I filled the stock with a small baby sock containing BB pellets to add more weight to the stock because the bull barrel makes it front heavy. I used a 223 cartridge laser aimer to zero the scope at 75 yards.

The heavy barrel is an extractor. I love this rifle and it is fun to shoot!

oldsoldja · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:20:29 PM »

nice, CHRISTmas in march

ham7777 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:31:51 PM »

Very nice going to do the same myself have all the pieces just need to put it together. Tom

joeyant · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:45:57 PM »

I also got this from eBay for about 10 bucks with free shipping--ATI shotforce buttpad.
It should help hold my recoil reducer sock inside the stock compartment, instead of the ghetto black electrical tape I have on there right now. Don't really need the padding to help with recoil because the 223 doesn't have much to begin with.

bikerbeans · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2011, 03:46:29 PM »

Nice! Make sure to post some target pics.

One thing though, I think you don't want a heavy recoiling round, like your 12 ga barrel, with that stock set as it is the collapsible type. I think there have been a couple of members with scope eye when the stock collapsed on firing.

BB

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2011, 03:51:35 PM »

Congrats on the great buy joeyant!!

What BB said, not me but the result of an adjustable stock collapsing.

Tim

joeyant · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2011, 04:39:33 PM »

OMG!

That guy looks like he spent a couple rounds with Manny Pacquiao......

The collapsible ATI stock will only be used for the 223 round. The original hardwood stocks already went to another receiver and is used for my shotgun barrels shown in my signature.

Spanky · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2011, 05:20:21 PM »

Those stocks are starting to grow on me.

Spanky

300winman · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2011, 07:41:23 PM »

What qualifies a rifle to be called a sniper rifle?? The range?? The look?? Or a rifle setup to shoot accurately?? I think it is a cool setup, It just looks like the scope sits a bit too high......as long as it shoots accurately, thats all that matters.....

phatgemi · « **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2011, 08:08:28 PM »

Quote from: 300winman on March 30, 2011, 07:41:23 PM

What qualifies a rifle to be called a sniper rifle?? The range?? The look?? Or a rifle setup to shoot accurately?? I think it is a cool setup, It just looks like the scope sits a bit too high......as long as it shoots accurately, thats all that matters.....

A sniper rifle would be one that is based on a platform to deliver accurate rounds at distances unattainable by regular infantry weapons.....Looks really unimportant. If a regular rifle carried by GI Joe can reach the target, then a sniper weapon isn't needed. Riflecraft at it's best.

300winman · « **Reply #10 on:** March 30, 2011, 08:23:08 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on March 30, 2011, 07:53:05 PM

Quote from: 300winman on March 30, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
What qualifies a rifle to be called a sniper rifle??

A rifle capable of taking out enemy combatants at long distances. A rifle that you can count on to hit the mark each and every time without fail or question. A rifle that in the hands of a skilled marksman can change the outcome of a battle.
Do you think Carlos Hathcock would consider this one a sniper rifle?

I'm not trying to put this one down but it ain't a sniper rifle. It's more along the lines of "tacticool"
It is what it is plain and simple.

Spanky

Agreed, it ain't doing none of that, but it sure could put a hurtin' on a groundhog population......

bikerbeans · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2011, 03:22:05 AM »

Quote from: Spanky on March 30, 2011, 07:53:05 PM

Quote from: 300winman on March 30, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
What qualifies a rifle to be called a sniper rifle??

A rifle capable of taking out enemy combatants at long distances. A rifle that you can count on to hit the mark each and every time without fail or question. A rifle that in the hands of a skilled marksman can change the outcome of a battle.
Do you think Carlos Hathcock would consider this one a sniper rifle?

I'm not trying to put this one down but it ain't a sniper rifle. It's more along the lines of "tacticool"
It is what it is plain and simple.

Spanky

Spanky,

Thanks for reminding me about the Famous Sniper Sargeant from Vietnam and his great skills. I loved reading about how he took a modified 50 BMG and spend a few days in the bush waiting for the right moment to plink a NVA General from about 1/2 mile away.

BB

petemi · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2011, 03:49:32 AM »

When I built my .44 mag, now .445, I put an ATI on it and hated it. It wiggled and squirmed and felt like a toy gun. That was with a standard contour barrel. The stock set was gone in a week. I had a .17HMR bull barrel on a Handi synthetic stock and I hated that too. It was very front heavy and wanted to sling muzzle to the ground. A pain in the butt to carry. That barrel is long gone too.

Pete

phatgemi · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2011, 06:57:20 AM »

Well I guess if you want to "blow out the chest cavities" of squirrels at 75 yards with a 223 and call yourself a sniper then there's not much left to be said........

petemi · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2011, 07:07:25 AM »

Joeyant, you're getting a little nasty for this forum.

Police snipers and military snipers are two very differnent things. A police sniper works mostly in urban situations, hostage situations, etc. His job is to take the guy out without injuring anyone else or destroying property or putting other people at risk. The military sniper doesn't worry much about all of that. His job is to knock an enemy out when it's not expected and usually at long range. His job is to demoralize the enemy.

Why would you shoot a squirrel in the chest with a .,223? A hunter and sportsman shoots them in the head and saves the meat.

Pete

quickdtoo · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2011, 07:22:13 AM »

Joeyant, as Pete said, that kind of talk isn't acceptable here.

Pete, I suspect joeyant is in California and shooting California ground squirrels which are vermin, unlike tree squirrels.

Tim

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7438.html

petemi · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2011, 07:26:02 AM »

Tim, could be. I don't know.

Pete

beaverslayer · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:30:13 AM »

Did that stock actually collapse under recoil or did he not make sure the pin was all the way engaged before firing? I've been around a lot of these type stocks and never seen that happen. I know of quite a few folks using them on the 3.5 inch turkey guns and they are holding up to the heaviest of recoil well. Just curious.

Quote from: quickdtoo on March 30, 2011, 03:51:35 PM

Congrats on the great buy joeyant!! What BB said, not me but the result of an adjustable stock collapsing.

Tim

quickdtoo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:44:28 AM »

He just said the stock failed.

Tim

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=98108

gcrank1 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2011, 09:02:19 AM »

I cant take the chance that I lose any more body parts so a collapsable is out.
'Mini-Sniping' is a gas; say, 9mm cases (or whatever case you can hit regularly) at 50 yds with a good airgun or the Martini MkIII 22LR and 20X or more scope. Competition can get fierce, I suggest you give it a go. Or, how about the golf-ball shoot.
Semantics aside, the shooting sports can be safe and fun even though there is a deadly serious aspect to what we do.
Id like to keep the motto,"An armed society is a polite society".

blind ear · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:53:46 AM »

Joeyant;
I think the rifle looks good, I hope it shoots as well. My snipeing was muskrats at 100 yds in the water with a 22LR and a 4X scope. The target is like a mayonaise jar lid floating on the water. Just fun. I like the way you loaded the picture to enlarge. ear

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:49:25 PM »

I like mine too.I snipe any thing when I'm out and about.Great coyote,bobcat, sqwaks(in the head),and feral cats.

Spanky · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:19:53 PM »

What is that scope you've got on there Slow? I like the way you've got the bipod set up too. I've been thinking about setting one up like that. Did you just drill the forearm and screw in a sling stud or is it something different?

Spanky

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:39:29 PM »

Hey Spanky.That's a Mueller APV w/sunshade.Great scope for the money.Not good on a hard kicker though,but I have three or four of them.The biggest is on a 243.As far as the bi-pod,I just driller a pilot hole and threaded a stud in there.Just make sure you leave enough room for it to break open.Don't ask why i say that ::)Makes for a easy way to lean against a tree and have support.

cheatermk3 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2011, 05:24:07 PM »

I think there's already enuff "sniping" going on in this thread.

A guy put a handi together and shared with us---that's all.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #25 on:** March 31, 2011, 05:31:33 PM »

Quote from: cheatermk3 on March 31, 2011, 05:24:07 PM

I think there's already enuff "sniping" going on in this thread.

A guy put a handi together and shared with us---that's all.

I agree, if some of you fellas don't have anything nice to say, it certainly won't hurt to keep it to yourself.

Tim

jon f · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2011, 09:35:27 PM »

I agree with Tim, quit sniping at each other.
I only have one other comment . Correct me if I am wrong. During the Civil War , were'nt the sniper rifles, single shot muzzle loaders?
In my gun safe there is a Steyr SSGP11 .308 Police Sniper rifle, as well as a .223 Handi Both are real good on rabbits.

Troyboy · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2011, 12:40:04 PM »

I agree with the above. The OP bought and was proud of his new rifle. He wanted us to enjoy it with him. I bet he never does that again and this is a shame. I like to look at others toys not pass judgment on use of a word.

joeyant · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2011, 02:08:36 PM »

Quote from: Troyboy on April 02, 2011, 12:40:04 PM

I agree with the above. The OP bought and was proud of his new rifle. He wanted us to enjoy it with him. I bet he never does that again and this is a shame. I like to look at others toys not pass judgment on use of a word.

That's pretty much sums it up. I could have kept my Handi Rifle stock and be done with it. But I didn't. I put a little more work into it and decided to share it with this community to show that they can be made to look different. As a response, these folks decided to insult my work (and coming from a forum Moderator BTW), while others called it a "toy". All because I used the word "sniper" to describe my rifle.

Maybe they'd be happier if a call it my 223 Handi Rifle Nerf Gun.

Thanks a lot. I thought this was a friendly community. I was wrong. But I wouldn't let the haters deter me from shooting this fine rifle. And not all of us have the money or even the desire to purchase a 338 Lapua or a PM Super Magnum. Where I shoot here in the People's Republik of Kalifornia, my 223 is more than enough.

revbc · « **Reply #29 on:** April 02, 2011, 02:55:48 PM »

A little humility on both sides would go a long way!

Spanky
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Quote from: joeyant on March 30, 2011, 05:10:45 PM

Quote from: Spanky on March 30, 2011, 04:42:48 PM
That ain't no sniper rifle.

Spanky

Wow. Your grasp of the obvious. Is. Uncanny.

Joey, this forum has some of the greatest folks in the world. They'll send you free parts, help you with difficult problems, overall go out of their way to make sure you're helped. So, I hope you will stay and become a part of us. Sometimes relationships get off on the wrong foot, doesn't mean they have to be severed.
Bobby