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Offline McDerry

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Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« on: March 30, 2011, 09:51:33 PM »
Was wondering where everyone draws the line for the SB1 chassis.  Green Mountain has some 1" x 22" .430 blanks on sale for $30 bucks and am tempted to make a full length insert for a 12 gauge barrel. 
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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 10:33:56 PM »
Are you talking about using factory ammo or handloads? If you reload and keep pressure down below 40K or so it'd probably be OK but you're taking a risk for sure. You'd be alot further ahead by using an sb2 frame. (and safer).



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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 03:32:05 AM »
Probably not the best idea as somewhere down the road someone else will have your gun and nothing would stop them from shooting factory 444M ammo.   

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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 03:54:24 AM »
Why even think about it.  If you're going to go through all that work and effort, just get a .444 Handi and be done with it with no worries.  Personally, I'd get the .45-70.

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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 04:26:21 AM »
Quote from: petemi on March 31, 2011, 03:54:24 AM
Why even think about it.  If you're going to go through all that work and effort, just get a .444 Handi and be done with it with no worries.  Personally, I'd get the .45-70.

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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 04:31:08 AM »
Yeah Tom, that is true, but if I could only have one, it would be the .45-70.

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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 04:41:47 AM »
Does anybody know of the website for green mountain. do they have 375 blanks on there
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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 05:31:14 AM »
Quote from: Jason F on March 31, 2011, 04:41:47 AM
Does anybody know of the website for green mountain. do they have 375 blanks on there


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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 05:56:15 AM »
Quote from: petemi on March 31, 2011, 03:54:24 AM
Why even think about it.  If you're going to go through all that work and effort, just get a .444 Handi and be done with it with no worries.  Personally, I'd get the .45-70.

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New 444 is over $200

Barrel blank will be under $50 machine work is free for me.  In short the insert would be anchored into the barrel and a extractor groove cut so as to create a permanent installation.  Not very complicated but time consuming cutting the blank down to a usable insert. 

I already own a 45-70 Handi.

Reason I ask is that MCACE sells inserts for 12 gauge in 444 Marlin.   My concern is the bolt thrust capabilities of the sb1 frame. 
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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 06:26:59 AM »
Gonna have to see if they have. 375 blank to make 375 jdj handi
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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 06:57:34 AM »
Quote from: McDerry on March 30, 2011, 09:51:33 PM
Was wondering where everyone draws the line for the SB1 chassis.  Green Mountain has some 1" x 22" .430 blanks on sale for $30 bucks and am tempted to make a full length insert for a 12 gauge barrel.

I wouldn't recommend it, the 444 Marlin is basically a rimmed 30-06, same case head size and start load pressure. My 444 Marlin Superlight project is build on an SB2 frame even tho the 44mag donor barrel came on an SB1 frame.

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Re: Is 444 Marlin on a SB1 frame doable
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2011, 10:38:09 AM »
Here's another reason to reconsider, the Contender is a stronger platform than an H&R SB1, TC doesn't offer a 444 barrel for the Contender, only some aftermarket mfrs do.

Tim

http://cdk357.tripod.com/444blowup.html

http://www.tcarms.com/customShop/chart_contender_pistol.php

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/g2Contender.php
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