Henry Frontier .17

[Deadeye63]

I`ve got a Henry HOO1 .22 with a 3-9X40 bushnell on it, squeaks out to 150yds dont stand a chance. I was just wondering if anyone has one of the Henry frontier model .17s I want to get me a .17 but I`d like to know how the Henry groups out to 250/300 (I know how the savage groups) But I have the mentioned .22 also I have a Henry 30-30 Brass w/octagon and I really do like the looks of the frontier .17  Anyone out there want to brag on they`re .17?

[Lurker]

I`ve got a Henry HOO1 .22 with a 3X9X40 bushnell on it, squeaks out to 150yds dont stand a chance. I was just wondering if anyone has one of the Henry frontier model .17s I want to get me a .17 but I`d like to know how the Henry groups out to 250/300 (I know how the savage groups) But I have the mentioned .22 also I have a Henry 30-30 Brass w/octagon and I really do like the looks of the frontier .17  Anyone out there want to brag on they`re .17?

Not meaning to offend you, but to educate you. However, you will probably get a little warm under the collar after reading this. Now that I have said that, there isn't any one thing mean enough, on this earth, that could make me buy a Henry rifle.

Shooting a .22 rifle is one of my favorite things to do. However, I do it with a quality firearm. If you like lever guns, get a Marlin model 39 and see how a quality lever gun can shoot. You will need to shoot it 250 to 500 rounds to break it in, but, in a hundred years from now, with minimum care, the Marlin 39 will still be shooting just like a new rifle.

In addition to my several Marlin 39's, I have an original 1897 Marlin rifle. My grandfather bought it new, in 1897, in Billings, Montana. That is from my calculations, one hundred and fourteen years it has been in our family. It still shoots great groups for me. And heaven only knows how many rounds have been sent down the barrel.

Take your rifles apart and look at how they are made and fitted together... They're terrible inside. Try to sell a used Henry rifle to a knowledgable shooter and you'll get a cold shoulder. They just do not have value built into them.

I used to work in a well known, full service gun shop, and they refused to work on any Henry rifle.

You're not going to like reading this, but, I have told you the truth...

Using a .17 caliber at 250 to 300 yards, and you're stretching the barrel too much.

I have a Leica 1200 Laser Rangefinder. I have heard people claim these excessive yardage shots with the .17 caliber cartridge. However, when I have laser ranged the distances to their targets, none of the shots taken were over 150 yards... In fact they were less...

Most people, experienced shooters included, are very poor judges of distance. In fact, I will go so far as to say that most shooters should not shoot a .22 rifle over 75 yards, and then only from a solid rest, using good sights and with a lot of experience.

Based on observing many people shoot, that has been my observation.
   
Bill

[Deadeye63]

Yea Lurker,  I  own my share of "quality" guns and I shoot them as well. I used to own a range finder but sold it along with the archery gear. I walked it out the other day to a squeak I had killed and no BS 150yds with my henry .22 I dont know about you but I can shoot (accurately) just as far as my scope`s will allow me. I have never owned a Marlin, I always felt they were inferior to the Winchester`s I bought instead. I thank you for pointing out the error in my gun choice with your critique though. I own Ruger`s, AK`s, Savage`s, Winchester`s, SKS`s, Colt`s, Springfields, S&W`s in many calibers just thought I may as well throw away some money on a Henry or 2 or 3. I buy guns to enjoy and someday leave to my kids and grandkids not for resale. The only gun I have ever sold went to some fellow that just had to have it because he liked it and made me an offer I could not turn down. I am an excellent marxman who cleans and oils his guns after every day of shooting and you are right I did`nt much like reading your "truth" you may go now.   

[PowPow]

I will be interested in the responses to this post; been lusting over a Henry; have a caliber gap at 17.
Does the lock time of a lever gun affect the accuracy of a precision caliber like the 17 HMR?
Does the scope on the H001TV attach to the receiver cover?
Had a Rem Nylon 66 with a sheet metal receiver cover that held the scope; lousy accuracy.
Is the receiver cover tight enough to hold the scope securely for the accuracy you would expect from a 17 HMR?

[Deadeye63]

I looked over a Henry Frontier .17 that was on the shelf next to the .22 I bought.  The receivers were identical a standard rimfire scope mount atop the painted aluminum receiver. The scope I have mounted on mine seems as rigid as I would hope for.

[SM Bob]

Lurker Wrote:
 
"Not meaning to offend you, but to educate you. However, you will probably get a little warm under the collar after reading this. Now that I have said that, there isn't any one thing mean enough, on this earth, that could make me buy a Henry rifle."

OK if you say so. It's a free country. You can buy whatever you want.


"Shooting a .22 rifle is one of my favorite things to do. However, I do it with a quality firearm. If you like lever guns, get a Marlin model 39 and see how a quality lever gun can shoot. You will need to shoot it 250 to 500 rounds to break it in, but, in a hundred years from now, with minimum care, the Marlin 39 will still be shooting just like a new rifle."

Shooting 22 rifles is one of my favorite things to do as well. I own several Marlins. (Golden 39A, 1894, 336, etc) I also own several Henrys (H004M, H001T, H001M). I love them both. The Marlin Golden 39A is in a class by itself. Especially the older ones. Mine is a
1965 model. I have a Nikon 4X32mm rimfire scope on it. It shoots fantastic. So do my Henry rifles. In fact all of them have much smoother actions than any of my Marlin or Winchester lever actions for that matter. I know you might find this hard to believe, but not everyone can afford a Marlin Golden 39A. If they choose to buy a Henry they aren't at that much of a disadvantage as you might think.
Any of my Henrys can shoot just as well as my Marlin. My Henrys will out live me easily.


"In addition to my several Marlin 39's, I have an original 1897 Marlin rifle. My grandfather bought it new, in 1897, in Billings, Montana. That is from my calculations, one hundred and fourteen years it has been in our family. It still shoots great groups for me. And heaven only knows how many rounds have been sent down the barrel."


That must be a sweet rifle for sure and a real family heirloom.


"Take your rifles apart and look at how they are made and fitted together... They're terrible inside. Try to sell a used Henry rifle to a knowledgable shooter and you'll get a cold shoulder. They just do not have value built into them."

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. Henrys are just fine to me. I have been a Machinist for over 40 years. I know a thing or two about mechanical things. Their design and construction, although different from the Marlin is surprisingly rugged. I know of several Henry owners that have run 10's of thousands of rounds through their guns without a problem. I think they have a lot of value built into them because you get a lot of gun for your money.

"I used to work in a well known, full service gun shop, and they refused to work on any Henry rifle."

That's fine because the only place you need to send your Henry for service is the factory in New Jersey. Henry has the best customer service in the industry. They come with a lifetime warranty too. The customer service since Remington took over Marlin has taken a serious nosedive.

"You're not going to like reading this, but, I have told you the truth..."

Like I said earlier it's a free country. You are entitled to your opinion. As far as your opinion being "the truth", well if you say so.


"Most people, experienced shooters included, are very poor judges of distance. In fact, I will go so far as to say that most shooters should not shoot a .22 rifle over 75 yards, and then only from a solid rest, using good sights and with a lot of experience."



I agree with you about many shooters having a hard time judging distances. I shoot my 22's at long distance targets all the time. I don't understand your 75 yard restriction, unless you are talking about hunting. In that case I agree with you that it might be difficult to get a humane kill on small game for most people at distances greater than that.


                                                           Robert

[BUGEYE]

I have a very nice savage markII and sears 43 (aka marlin 81) and they languish in the gun cabinet while I hunt with my cricket.  snobs turn up their nose at it but I just look at snobs as miserable people.
buy what you like.

[Deadeye63]

Wow, Nobody got a Henry frontier .17hmr they want to talk about? I figured they would be more popular? Oh-Well, I`ve pretty much decided to buy the Weatherby mark XXII .17 anyway.   

[PowPow]

Folks overs at RFC seem to fall mostly in the CZ and Savage camps for 17HMR.