Author Topic: best video ever. (Read 940 times)

rampa room artillery · « **on:** April 05, 2011, 04:48:56 PM »

ok this is a good one you have to check it out. they finally got it right.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/videos/civil-war-mortars/

rick bryan

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2011, 05:17:03 PM »

Good one indeed!

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2011, 08:58:41 PM »

Great video!! Thank you for the link.

BoomLover · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2011, 09:25:44 PM »

I'd add this one to Bookmark, if I could! Good one! BoomLover

BillinOregon · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:37:06 AM »

That WAS good. But I wish O'Keefe would lose the electric guitar music and add fiddle and banjo instead ...

Zulu · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:32:07 AM »

Good video.
They said an original Ordnance rifle at full elevation would shoot 7 or 8 miles. I'm not sure about that. I thought 3 miles was more likely.
Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Also, I was surprised they were using linstocks instead of friction primers. I wonder why.
Zulu

GGaskill · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:52:01 AM »

Also, I was surprised they were using linstocks instead of friction primers. I wonder why.

Cheaper and less likely of altering point of aim?

Artilleryman · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:10:48 PM »

Quote from: Zulu on April 06, 2011, 11:32:07 AM

Good video.
They said an original Ordnance rifle at full elevation would shoot 7 or 8 miles. I'm not sure about that. I thought 3 miles was more likely.
Anyone have any thoughts on that?

Zulu

The longest range given in a table that I have for an Ordnance Rifle is 4180 yards (2.375 miles) at 16 degrees. Time of flight is 17 sec.

For a Parrott it shows 6200 yards (3.52 miles) at 35 degrees, and time of flight 31.3 sec. At 15 degrees the range is 4200 yards and time of flight 16 sec.

I am assuming that this would be first strike point and there may be additional distance on the ricochet. From a practical standpoint, if you can't see it you don't have much chance in hitting it. In fact the effective range was considered to be about 2000 yards.

GGaskill · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:51:46 PM »

No radios for forward observers in those days.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:04:32 PM »

Quote from: GGaskill on April 06, 2011, 11:52:01 AM

Also, I was surprised they were using linstocks instead of friction primers. I wonder why.

Cheaper and less likely of altering point of aim?

Considering the numbers of folks just behind the piece, I would guess it's a rule to prevent small pieces of brass or copper from hitting the folks observing the shoot.

Double D · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:39:18 PM »

I don't recall linstocks being used by anyone the time I went to Fort Shenadoah.

Articifer Tom · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:50:46 PM »

In competative shooting linstock is used because of risk of pulling gun off target . Most friction primers require 15 plus lbs. pull and these gun have there wheels and trails worked in to very smooth and leveled dirt and some are even set in steel channel iron .To give the gun consistant rollback and in battery setting as there is also a time limit on most events .

Artilleryman · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:28:02 PM »

When I competed there I used friction primers, and won several times. The friction primer tube goes into the air at a slight angle without being any problem when it comes down. The spectators are maybe 70 or so feet behind the guns. When we compete at Grayling steel ramps or platforms are not allowed.

Double D · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »

I was at Back Creek Gunshop this afternoon and picked up a few cans of powder for Southpaw and I. They said there is supposed to a be a big cannon only shoot a Ft. Shenandoah this Summer---anyone have details?

rampa room artillery · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:44:53 PM »

yes douglas, the have it everyyear, it is wonderful, i go every year. you are more then welcome to come up and stay with me. we shoot cannons and mortars allday friday and allday saturday and then we have a huge pig picking saturdaynight. mortars 200 yards. cannons into classes and 200 yard tagets. 100 yard tagets. random range, last year we had a golf ball event. and a line gun demo at 200 yards. its a blast if you can handle the heat. it is in august.
anyone that wants to come just pm me and i will give you more info. i will get get my invite at nationals.

cannons can reenter events as many times as they want/ as much money they have in there pocket. its 20 dollars for every event.

rick bryan

moose53 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:19:50 PM »

Does anyone know what Kevin Oyarzo's Hardaway Battery 3in Ordnance Rifle is shooting shown at 7:33 in video . They are shooting very good for a smooth bore at 200 yards, looks like he is trying to keep his projectile secret?Thanks

rampa room artillery · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:37:25 PM »

if i remember correctly he shoots a turned peice of aluminum round stock. as do alot of the better smooth bore teams do. that is why i say round balls are not always best. he better hope he never looses his inspection because he is granfathered in he can win because of the bore diameter to length of tube. its simple math.
but he is very good none the less.

rick bryan

Cannoneer · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2011, 08:43:04 PM »

Enjoyed the vid; thanks for posting it.

NinjaToes · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:23:23 PM »

great vid, thanks for sharing it

moose53 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:58:42 PM »

I would not have guessed you could fire a slug from a smooth bore cannon with anything like the accuracy they are getting . Fine shooting indeed. Thanks for the information , it will be fun to try it out .