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Walker and other Govenors are set to be "Dictators"
« on: April 07, 2011, 05:30:40 AM »
 and here's how .....by declaring emergencies and invoking 'emergency powers' the Constitution is nullified........the trial balloons have already been tested....here's the setup... In the best 'sting' the mark never knows he's the mark. The union hub-bub may be diversion. Is Walker the 'chosen' for this con?...very possible at some point as indicated by his mindset,,,people of Wisconsin--trust no one_ _verify-challenge-investigate. Cui bono?? ...  fyi...TM7
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The Governor Of Wisconsin Has Laws
In Place To Rule As Dictator

By J Kent and D Jacobsen
4-6-11
 
As the governor of Wisconsin defies court orders and exhibits imperious and law defying behavior, an article by Joseph Mercola, entitled "Governors as Dictators" stands out with enhanced relevant, not only for Wisconsin but for the country.  For what Mercola addresses in the article would suggest that the protests in Wisconsin are not going deep enough, for they are not addressing laws on the Wisconsin books already which make the threats to union rights pale in comparison.
 
Dr. Mercola's article concerns the Model State Emergency Health Powers laws that were pushed through state legislatures under George Bush following 9/11 and the anthrax scare, though prepared long previous to both.  No matter what position one takes on 9/11 or the anthrax scare, three things are evident.  1.  Both events were highly controversial from the beginning, required large scale investigations, and there are calls now, even by investigators themselves, for new investigatory commissions because of questioning not only the original government accounts, but now the government investigations, and in fundamental ways.  2.  Fear arising from 9/11 led to the US invading Iraq, the establishment of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act - massive, ill-defined and unconstitutional powers for the federal government - and to the CDC promoting the little noticed Model State Emergency Health Powers legislation.  3.  Fear arising from 9/11 and the anthrax scare was instrumental in passage of that legislation, which overturned existing public health laws in each state and enacted far reaching powers around medical emergencies and bioterrorism that parallel the Patriot Act in their extreme unconstitutionality, giving that power this time to governors.
 
Governor Walker's defiance of legal constraints placed by the court makes investigating the powers that Bush had inserted into state laws for governors highly relevant because all that it would require to trigger those powers is an emergency.  "Emergency" was the essence of both 9/11 and the anthrax scare, and it is precisely to find out whether those emergencies were promulgated (staged) that additional investigations are being called for with both calls based on distrust of original government agencies' accounts and then of the investigations which government agencies ran and controlled.
 
That is, the pandemic preparedness laws in Wisconsin can go into effect based on an emergency declared by government agencies which are still under suspicion around the very two terrorizing events that were the sole basis of the pandemic laws in the first place, events that themselves were immediately questioned and gave rise to formal investigations, and the government investigations themselves now also questioned, even in the 9/11 case, by commissioners who participated.
 
The 2009 H1N1 pandemic is precisely the sort of event that could be used to make the state laws operative in all their power, which would give Governor Walker true dictatorial powers.  Yet it has been shown in investigations by both CBS news and the EU parliament, to have been fake (and corruptly so), and to have moved forward on the US based on the CDC reporting 80-98% false data, (it is also the CDC which first began promoting the state emergency health laws.).  Yet immediately after the falseness of any H1N1 "pandemic" was exposed by CBS, the president declared a full blown "emergency", with military implications.  That emergency has never been removed.  It rests on the mildest flu in recorded medical annals, but which Sibelius at HHS has "extended" until 2012.  She cannot  maintain a medical condition by law (the flu is long over), but she has continued the legal justification for maintaining ground troops on the ground in the US.
 
What powers do these laws, predicated on an ill-defined emergency that is easily declared, includes no proof of evidence, and can be extended on no medical ground, contain?
 
Within weeks after the tragic events of Sept. 11, 2001, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) began promoting health policy legislation that dramatically suspends civil rights during declared state of biological emergency. The text of the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) gives public health officials and governors of the several states the power to arrest, transport, quarantine, drug and vaccinate anyone suspected of carrying a potentially infectious disease. The Boston Globe originally broke the October 31, 2001. The story was almost immediately forwarded to medical freedom activists throughout the country who responded en masse in outspoken opposition to the proposal. The article was quickly removed fromThe Globe's website.  http://farmwars.info/?p=1243
 
And what could Governor Walker do with them?
 
Under the proposed law, one case of smallpox or swine flu in a public school could trigger authorities to urge a governor to declare a state of emergency. Once such is declared, the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights and most cherished civil liberties will be immediately suspended in addition to states being empowered to take immediate possession of private property under the doctrine of eminent domain.  ...
 
Under the Mandatory Medical Examinations section (502) of the law, persons refusing to submit to medical examinations and/or testing are liable for misdemeanors and forced isolation. If public health authorities suspect individuals may have been exposed to broadly defined infectious diseases, or otherwise pose a risk to public health, officials may issue detainment orders. In the case of an urban attack, or even one suspected, possibly thousands of people could be marshaled into isolation camps, according to the law. In this case, physicians, assisted by police, will be required to perform state medical examinations and tests.
 
Under the law, "infectious diseases" are very broadly defined. "An infectious disease may, or may not, be transmissible from person to person, animal to person, or insect to person," the authors explain in the text.
Section 504 of the Act details vaccination and treatment protocols. Following these mandates, public health authorities may compel people to be inoculated and/or drugged with any medicaments selected by the state. Individuals refusing to be vaccinated or treated would be liable for a misdemeanor, subject to police arrest, isolation or quarantine.
Section 807 repeals existing state laws that are in conflict with the Act. Under this part, for instance, previous laws granting medical, religious, or philosophical exemptions to vaccination would be repealed.  [Emphasis added.]
 
The laws do not depend on either a contagious disease being present or on proof of any emergency, only on the declaration of an emergency.   
 
What accountability is there?
 
[Sections quoted below come from "Model Emergency Health Powers Act (MEHPA) Turns Governors into Dictators" by Joseph Mercola unless otherwise indicated.]
 
If the State does more harm than good through unfettered use of its draconian power, it can rely on the state immunity clause:
 
"Neither the State, its political subdivisions, nor, except in cases of gross negligence or willful misconduct, the Governor, the public health authority, or any other State official referenced in this Act, is liable for the death of or any injury to persons, or damage to property, as a result of complying with or attempting to comply with this Act or any rule or regulations promulgated pursuant to this Act."
 
Article VIII Section 804.
 
Note that the law would grant certain immunities even for deaths improperly caused, and allows such immunity even for advisors who made recommendations based on conflicts of interest.
 
Beginning first with the health side, and with more detail, the laws include forced diagnostic testing (unlimited in character), forced taking of bodily samples (unlimited as to what is taken), forced unknown, untested "medical" treatments, forced decontamination with unknown, untested chemicals, and forced unknown, untested vaccines.  Pulled from any context of "emergency," this comprises two things,  description of forced medical experimentation on anyone in Wisconsin (or any other state) and criminal physical assault.  Refusal can include imprisonment.   
 
The laws overturn all exemptions for vaccines, even medical exemptions that were given to protect people allergic to them who would die if given them.  The laws replaced long-standing constitutional public health laws that included the option to self-quarantine, the historic and most relied upon of public health options in an epidemic.  Instead, quarantining would be forced and into public facilities if someone refuses to submit to intimate and potentially life-threatening physical assault.  Under the CDC promoted state health power laws, quarantine is indistinguishable from imprisonment for not complying with forced medical procedures - procedures based on no proven medical emergency and not requiring an infectious disease even exist.
 
Anyone refusing these state-forced medical actions, could be herded together in detainment centers or prison, ideal setting for spreading disease and terrible settings for medical help if one becomes infected there.
 
Article V Section 504(b). Although it might in some circumstances be prudent and justified to quarantine a person who refuses immunization during an outbreak, it is tyrannical to criminalize the medical choice to decline a treatment.
 
An immunization or treatment might well cause serious harm to certain individuals even if the public health authority does not recognize that it is "reasonably likely" to lead to "serious harm"-another two important undefined terms. Article V Section 504(a)(4).
 
The Act gives the public health authority the right to isolate or quarantine a person on an ex parte court order, with no hearing for at least 72 hours. If the public health authority decides that an unvaccinated person is a risk to others, even if uninfected, he could be quarantined.
 
Article V Section 503(e). It is quite possible that public health authorities could force such a person from his home to a place of quarantine, where he will be exposed to infected persons. Such places shall be maintained in a safe and hygienic manner "to the extent possible," and "all reasonable means shall be taken to prevent the transmission of infection among isolated or quarantined individuals."
 
Article V Section 503(a). The Act itself thus implies that an uninfected person is at risk by being placed in such a facility; it is quite likely that he could be at greater risk than if he had the freedom to protect himself as he saw fit. It is assumed that public health authorities will be "reasonable"; however, this assumption is questionable.
 
How would the emergency that would trigger any of this be declared?  How is it defined?
 
Declaring an Emergency:  Under this Act, any Governor could appoint himself dictator by declaring a "public health emergency." He doesn't even have to consult anyone.
 
The Act requires that he "shall consult with the public health authority," but "nothing in the duty to consult ... shall be construed to limit the Governor's authority to act without such consultation when the situation calls for prompt and timely action."
 
The legislature is prohibited from intervening for 60 days, after which it may terminate the state of emergency only by a two-thirds vote of both chambers. (Apparently, it does not have the authority to find that the state of emergency never really existed.) Article III, Section 305(c). There is also the possibility that the Governor could declare a new emergency as soon as his powers were about to expire.
 
What is a public health emergency? It is whatever the Governor decides it should be. By the definition in the Act, it could be an "occurrence"-or just an "imminent threat"-of basically any cause that involves a biological agent or biological toxin that poses a "substantial risk" of a "significant number" of human fatalities or disability. Article I, Section 104(g). Terrorism need not be involved; any threat of an epidemic would suffice.  ....
 
What kind of power would the governor have?  And under such a law, what limits could be placed on Governor Walker?
 
Unlimited Power: How would the Governor handle the emergency? By whatever means he chose. He is under no obligation to use scientifically valid methods, or to choose the least destructive method, or to perform any kind of risk-benefit analysis.
 
He may suspend any regulatory statute, or the rules of any state agency, if they would "prevent, hinder, or delay necessary action."Article III, Section 303(a)(1). Among the laws to be suspended would probably be those permitting religious, medical, or philosophical exemptions to mandatory vaccines.
 
The Governor may not only utilize all the resources of the State and its political subdivisions, but commandeer any private facilities or resources considered necessary, and "take immediate possession thereof. Such materials and facilities include, but are not limited to, communication devices, carriers, real estate, fuels, food, clothing, and health care facilities."
 
Taking possession of  "communication devices, carriers, real estate, fuels, food, clothing, and health care facilities" describes martial law.
 
The governor, by such a law, would not be taking control of "communication devices" such as cell phones, but of all communications in the state.  "Carriers" are all transportation, "real estate" is all property and land, "fuels" are all utilities as well as oil, gas, coal, water (used for hydro-electric power), private solar power, wind power, water power; "food" is all food in the state including farms, privately stored food, any businesses that produce or provide food; and "health care facilities" could include any place where they may assert that "health" measures are being taken, which could include prisons and detainment camps.  (Why would clothing be listed?)
 
Doctors and health workers would be compelled to comply.   
 
Article IV Section 402(a). He may "compel a health care facility to provide services," but it is not clear what means he may use to compel its personnel to work (Article IV Section 402(b)), except that any physician or other health care provider who refuses to perform medical examination or testing as directed shall be liable for a misdemeanor. Article V Section 502(b).
 
What of legislative laws and funding as an obstacle to putting any of this in place?
 
The Act grants Governors the exclusive power to control the expenditure of funds appropriated for emergencies; the intent and priorities set by the Legislature would be irrelevant.
 
What of constitutional protections in terms of elections and delegation of power?
 
The Governor may delegate powers at his sole discretion to unelected political appointees.
 
On the property side, the mere declaration that a building or property is contaminated would be grounds from destruction of the structure (including by burning) and the appropriation of land, specifically true of farmland, of which Wisconsin has some of the richest in the country.
 
The Governor may destroy any material or property "of which there is reasonable cause to believe that it may endanger the public health." Article IV Section 401(b). And while the State shall pay just compensation to the owner of any facilities that are "lawfully taken" or appropriated (Article IV Section 406), there is a huge exception:  [Emphasis added.]
 
"Compensation shall not be provided for facilities or materials that are closed, evacuated, decontaminated, or destroyed when there is reasonable cause to believe that they may endanger the public health pursuant to Section 401." Article IV Section 406.
 
The Governor is in charge of determining "reasonable cause." There is a strong incentive for him to declare any losses to private owners to be noncompensable.
 
"Reasonable cause" might mean "contaminated." Is the Senate Hart Office Building contaminated with anthrax? Yes. Should it therefore be destroyed, or subjected to fumigation with chemicals that would destroy much of the equipment and furnishings? Most think not.
 
The problem is that given a sufficiently sensitive testing method, everything is probably "contaminated" with almost everything else. Moreover, every testing method has some level of false positives.
 
The late Conrad Chester of Oak Ridge National Laboratory stated that any place that has ever supported cattle has anthrax contamination (lecture before Doctors for Disaster Preparedness annual meeting, 1996). The same probably applies to any land that has supported sheep or goats, or any land that has had the wind deposit soil from such an area.
 
In other words, anthrax spores are probably ubiquitous, though at a concentration that very rarely causes any harm. Such harm as was done may have been misdiagnosed by physicians who were unfamiliar with anthrax and not specifically looking for it. [Anthrax is easily treated.]
 
Under this law, nothing would stop the Governor from ordering a citizen to turn over his house to be used as an isolation facility and later destroying the house on the grounds that it is contaminated [or from appropriating farmland, also on the grounds it is contaminated]. This order, like any other, could be enforced at gunpoint by any law enforcement officer.
 
The health power laws include seizure of arms.   
 
.... the Act empowers the Governor to ration, fix prices, and otherwise control the allocation, sale, use, or transportation of any item as deemed "reasonable and necessary for emergency response."
 
This specifically includes firearms. Article IV Section 402(c) and Section 405(b). Moreover, the Governor can simply seize such items.Article IV Section 402(a).
 
Rarely noted by those favoring gun control as a means for public safety, Gandhi condemned the seizure of arms as the most terrible thing the British did in their centuries of brutal rule in India.
 
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mahatma Gandhi (An Autobiography or The story of my experiments with truth, by M.K. Gandhi, p.238)
 
Bush put in place international and intersecting agreements around the War on Terror, a war that former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski testified to the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative," and one based on a potentially promulgated attack on the US.  The Model State Emergency Health Power state laws also intersect with international agreements, most specifically with the WHO and UN and were put in place during Bush's time in office.
 
Emergencies have value and even just looking at the state emergency health powers in place, they create vast redundancy of power, and connect state, the federal government, and international agencies backed by military.  In the way they are arranged, a emergency could easily be declared which would trip off a cascading of unconstitutional events.
 
"We are on the verge of global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the new world order." - David Rockefeller
 
One quote, allegedly from the WHO 2005 declaration around pandemics, gives some indication how (undefined) health authorities could urge governors to declare a pandemic emergency and of the potential danger such declaration (once again, with no definition or evidence of proof) could have on the future of the US.
 
"Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.
 
As a side note, but one relevant to the forced vaccination of people in each state, a series of vaccines, including the H1N1 (much urged by the CDC onto pregnant women especially) contain the preferred ingredient in a patent on a "fertility damaging vaccine."  That ingredient, polysorbate 80, is known as a sterilizing agent.  Until the patent was brought to light, suggesting it was meant to do harm would have been filed under conspiracy theory.  But with the patent clearly designed to damage fertility and polysorbate 80 being preferred to accomplish that damage, its presence in any vaccine, especially those being mandated, becomes significant.  It is some of the most controversial vaccines:
 
in the H1N1 vaccine, though the pandemic was fake, and the CDC said the vaccine could maim or kill 30,000 people; in the flu vaccine (which contains the H1N1) being urged for the first time ever on the whole population, though the science shows it is ineffective (yet it comes with the same risk of maiming and death as the H1N1); the HPV vaccine (Gardasil) for young girls for cervical cancer though cervical doesn't even occur until a woman is in her 30's or 40s, is easy to catch early and treat, and the vaccine manufacturers say the vaccine only lasts 5 years so young girls would need to take it repeatedly.  It is already maiming and killing girls here and there is push in some states (one presumes by the manufacturer, Merck, as they tried in Texas) to get it mandated; France and the UK are banning advertising of it and India, based on deaths, has banned it altogether; in the mandated HEP B vaccine for newborn babies, a vaccine meant for IV drug users and for people with sexually transmitted diseases.  A newborn with an STD from its mother would need treatment, not a vaccine, and the vaccine would be unnecessary since an infant does do IV drugs or have sexual partners [According the head vaccine scientist at Merck, the Merck HEP vaccine for gay men caused the AIDS epidemic in the US and all their vaccines are filled with cancer and other viruses.  Video of Maurice Hillerman's interview]; and other vaccines which are part of the mandated pediatric schedule.  [All vaccines contain many unknown viruses which cannot be removed.  Interview with Dr. Larry Palevsky.]
 
The certain knowledge now of a preferred harmful ingredient being placed broadly in many vaccines that are being pushed or mandated by the CDC should raise concerns about any mandates on vaccines.  Through the state health powers laws, unknown and untested vaccines could be forced on an entire state (or states) even though vaccines routinely kill a certain percentage of those given them, and they would definitely kill people who are allergic.
 
In being aware of the fertility damaging ingredient in many vaccines now, the following information takes on added significance.  Last year, Bill Gates suggested that the new vaccines can lower world population by 10-15% and the FDA added a new rule allowing vaccine manufacturers to insert or change any ingredient with the approval of a single employee at the FDA; in the last few weeks, the Supreme Court has given the vaccine manufacturers total immunity from liability and referred injured people to the Vaccine Compensation Court which does not list infertility or sterility as vaccine injuries); at approximately the same time as the Supreme Court ruling, Bill Gates went on TV and demonized parents questioning vaccines' safety as killers of children; and at the present time, the FDA is in court asserting the public has no fundamental right to its bodily or physical health.
 
It is in the context of all this that the suspicions surrounding 9/11, the anthrax scare, and the falseness of the H1N1 pandemic become especially relevant, and offer the gift of a warning about the use of false events, and how those in government have used suspect events to pass laws, laws written months before the pivotal events happened.  Those laws threaten the US as a nation, based solely on the declaration of an emergency that doesn't need to be dangerous or even real.   9/11 and the anthrax scare expose that attacks and diseases and bio-terrorism can be caused.  Historically, such false attacks have been used to take over countries, including taking over in Germany in the 1930s.
 
"Today America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by the World Government." - Henry Kissinger, 1991 Bilderberg Conference.  [Emphasis added.]
 
[This video with a Finnish health minister about the H1N1 vaccines, mentions Henry Kissinger's personal interest in them.]
 
The Wisconsin public and legislature have been divided over budgets and workers rights, but state health powers law presents a common and much greater threat to each person personally and to their families.  It threatens lives.  Seeing it and the danger it represents, the Wisconsin public can demand it be repealed along with all mandated medical procedures.  Those laws are similar in their threat to the Patriot Act and the Food Modernization Act and all can be looked at again, with states removing laws that intersect with them, and putting in place laws that specifically counter them with health sovereignty bills and food and farm sovereignty bills and state sovereignty over federal military control.
 
The country has reason demand a formal investigation of Bush and his connections and any involvement in WHO and UN plans around pandemics, of CDC-promoted State Emergency Health Powers laws, and of the insertion of fertility-damaging ingredients into vaccines which are mandated to American children and being urged for all adults.

 

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 12:06:40 PM »
A few incidences and a few Bills passed.............. a few laws passed......................... with each administration............... a few years later on..................... an enslaved peoples............. What could be the problem?

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 02:57:45 PM »
Hey this sounds just like the clap trap toward Clinton's and W's terms as president. How's this working out for them?
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 05:58:21 PM »
I'd vote for Walker again. A vote for Tom Barrett or Jim Doyle is a vote for more gun control, which is completely unacceptable to me.

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 04:15:30 AM »
TM which model of APC has twin 50s and what are zappers?
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 06:13:22 AM »
I'd vote for Walker again. A vote for Tom Barrett or Jim Doyle is a vote for more gun control, which is completely unacceptable to me.
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When a APC comes down the street with two 50's and a squad of equipped zappers to tell you to line up for vaccinations and with firearm sales records, do you have enough firepower to resist..? I doubt it.
Wisconsin could be the 'proving ground' yet.
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Looks like I'm going to have to get my antique Sherman WW II tank out of the barn and get it ready. Hope I don't get "zapped" though. :D

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 06:25:09 AM »
TM it is clear now and I understand why my wife insisted on the upgrade package when she picked out her new SUV. Here is a pic
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 08:11:47 AM »
Oh now I get it why you are using obsolete systems like the M113. You just replaced the Clinton in your old story with Walker. Here's a hint when you update the name in your story you should also update the equipment. That way it will be a little more believable. BTW I am still wondering what zappers are?
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 08:45:32 AM »
TM, do you even bother to read these zany reports with anything approaching a critical eye?

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That ingredient, polysorbate 80, is known as a sterilizing agent.  Until the patent was brought to light, suggesting it was meant to do harm would have been filed under conspiracy theory.  But with the patent clearly designed to damage fertility and polysorbate 80 being preferred to accomplish that damage, its presence in any vaccine, especially those being mandated, becomes significant.  It is some of the most controversial vaccines:
   

I remember reading polysorbate 80 being an ingredient in most ice creams.  Wikipedia had this to say:

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In Europe and America people eat about 0.1 g of polysorbate 80 in foods per day.[7] Influenza vaccines contain 0.000025 g of polysorbate 80 per dose.[6]

In general, polysorbate 80 is safe and well-tolerated, although a small number of people are allergic to this substance,[8] and it may be harmful to people with Crohn's disease.[9]

Rats fed with diets containing up to 5% polysorbate 80 by volume showed no toxic effects (duration of study?).[10] Polysorbate 80 is not carcinogenic.[11] A 1956 study saw no effect on reproduction in rats at up to 5% of their diet being polysorbate 80, although reproduction decreased at 20% of the diet (duration of study?).[12] A 1993 study raised concerns that polysorbate 80 might decrease fertility in rats.[13] A 1997 study looked at the effect of consuming three doses by body weight of 0.5%/day on the sex organs of female rats and saw no abnormal changes (duration of study?); this is equivalent to a 70 kg person consuming about 350 g per day for three days.[14] A 2008 study concluded that there was no observable adverse effects at doses per body weight of up to 1.85 ml/kg·day, which is equivalent to a 70 kg person consuming about 140 g of this substance per day for 21 days. However, administration of 16.783 ml/kg·day to pregnant rats lowered body weight in male and female offspring.[7] This is equivalent to a person consuming about 1.3 kg of polysorbate 80 per day for 21 days.



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in the last few weeks, the Supreme Court has given the vaccine manufacturers total immunity from liability and referred injured people to the Vaccine Compensation Court which does not list infertility or sterility as vaccine injuries);


This makes absolutely no sense.  If the Supreme Court gave the manufacturers "total immunity", then why would they then refer injured people to a "Vaccine Compensation Court"?



I could go on, but suffice it to say this "article" is so full of holes you could use it as a collander.
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Re: Walker and other Govenors are set to be "Dictators"
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 08:48:44 AM »
APC s will never survive long enough to get to my street and and storm troopers won't live long afterwards.
And I'm betting the same will be happening through out the country if such scifi crap ever started.
Besides I'm planning to be your Dictator and you'll love it or my muscle will mess you up.

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Re: Walker and other Govenors are set to be "Dictators"
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 09:09:29 AM »
We already have brutal dictators in the U.S.  there're called union bosses.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 01:18:09 PM »
I don't know that 113's are still TO&E to the US military, but I wouldn't be suprised if somebody was still using them. For sure recoiless rifles aren't ( with the Army anyway), they started being replaced with the TOW system in the 70's, Mid 70's saw the 90mm RR taken from inventory with the 1-509Inf (ABCT) when they were the first unit in europe to be issued the "Dragon" AT system. Basically a man portable TOW. The marines however may still be using recoiless rifles, but don't know for sure. I sure do remember the "slap-sting" thing when you fired the 90mm RR. Don't miss that to much at all LOL!
   Maybe glass bottles are disappearing off the store shelves so us peasents can't make molotovs huh? Is dixie gun works having a run on cannon fuse yet?  maybe I do know why the dept of HS put veterans on the watch list after all. Hey, "THEY" trained us  ;). Kinda like the old guy in the movie "The Postman", the on that tells KK "I know stuff". LOL!

BTW, When ever a gov't has to resort to military(style) force, to enforce their will, all bets are off.

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2011, 06:28:34 AM »
M113s have been sourced out to PD around the country.

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TM are you trying to save the story where you just changed names and titles? BTW I am still wondering about the twin 50s. Why don't they just use your vaunted "DU cruise missiles or 4000 watt death ray that ran on AA batteries"? Oh wait from what I remember we could buy a kit to build that "4000 watt death ray that ran on AA batteries" off the internet, maybe we could use it on the "M113s with twin 50s".  :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2011, 06:43:06 AM »
Which east coast PD was it that had the stink a couple years ago for getting the armored vehicle with the mounted fifty? That was a 113 wasn't it?

Even further back when, wasn't it the atf or? that was going to put surplussed OV-?? broncos in its inventory? That was stopped when some politico figured out a law enforcement agency didn't need an aircraft with weapons hard points on it.

What we should be asking is , "why the militarization of our PD's??
 OR, why is it illegal to put explosive heads on rockets? (Think here of a weaponized Estes).

Though I myself, along with others, question what's going on around here, I would ask those who doubt, to at least question the arming in earnest. AR's and sub-guns aside, why does our PD's need armored vehicles? (BTW, your paint ball guns or filled balloons  can be used to deny the use of "periscopes" on enemy AFV's, causing the operators to "crack the hatch". Fun fact for Patriots)

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 11:24:34 AM »
C'mon TM.  At least be consistent.  You question EVERYTHING that the government does, but when it comes to your fringe "researchers", you question NOTHING.  We eat polysorbate 80 all the time, but a miniscule amount in a one time vaccination is going to sterilize us?  Please!!
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2011, 08:35:34 AM »
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Its the citizens patriotic job to question governmnet because they lie; why you strive to prevent inquiry one can only guess .... Consistently, I question research all the time. The topic of this thread is based on actual legislation and regulation if you didn't notice...i.e. emergency powers. In your case rather than question...you simply deny or snipe....this is a fear function, of course.

About your diversion:  You obviously don't realize that infants are not fully developed, have unmaturated immune systems, that all human DNA is not identicl, and that small toxic doses of foreign crap can have extreme effects on infants...this is an unarguable fact.

For my druthers I prefer clean unadulterated food and drink...< you want to argue about that? Your 'denial based reality' is likely based on over consumption of chemicals introduced to your system..polysorbate 80 and about 40,000 other forms of crap...


Speaking of diversions, exaggerating everything is a pretty good one.   ::)
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2011, 08:47:49 AM »
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When a APC comes down the street with two 50's and a squad of equipped zappers to tell you to line up for vaccinations and with firearm sales records, do you have enough firepower to resist..? I doubt it.
Wisconsin could be the 'proving ground' yet.

LOL!  What's to worry about, the UN will protect us "rebels"...humanitarian help will come won't it?  Obama would never kill his own citizens, he said so.   ;)

In the end in order to stop the madness, this will probably have to happen, it had to happen to gain freedom, we were warned it will happen from time to time to keep freedom.  It's pretty much the way of the world.  We are no different.  Yes, there would be resistance...there always is at some point, but hey, the feds haven't won a war with anyone for a real long time, so theres something to look forward to maybe.