Author Topic: 500 s&w question (Read 1056 times)

Jason F · « **on:** April 11, 2011, 04:36:23 AM »

What can it be rechambered for to get more out of it. I havnt bought dies yet I want to see what my options are first

phatgemi · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2011, 05:08:04 AM »

Search and ya shall find. Here ya go:

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php?topic=207451.0

xhare · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2011, 05:08:15 AM »

Dont know why you would want to get more out of it. It kick likes mule as is. If you want more, buy the Ranger Rick 700 grain bullets. As far as wildcats go, I have heard of a few based on the .500 inch barrel, but most are going to be .510-.512 inch.

Spanky · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2011, 06:47:34 AM »

Do you really need to get more out of it or is this a case of "mine's bigger than yours"?

Seriously though... the 500 can tackle any game on Earth so it's pretty good as is.

Spanky

Jason F · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2011, 06:51:46 AM »

I was just checking out those ranger rick bullets that might be the way to go

Spanky · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2011, 07:01:39 AM »

I bet those 700gr. RR bullets would shoot through a cape buffalo... lengthways.

Spanky

phatgemi · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2011, 08:02:01 AM »

Quote from: Jason F on April 11, 2011, 06:51:46 AM

I was just checking out those ranger rick bullets that might be the way to go

just curious, exactly what are you planning to hunt?

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PHATINJUN · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2011, 08:25:35 AM »

I know the shootin the frame loose has come up a few times here on the 500's already. Just something to think about. Kurt

thejanitor · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2011, 08:28:18 AM »

Thought that was the new minimum for the Handi Prairie dog shoot. I think I would start to flinch REAL early in the day. thejanitor

Jason F · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2011, 08:37:47 AM »

I just want something different in a handi

Spanky · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2011, 03:05:22 PM »

The 500 is already pretty hard on the rifle, mounts, optics, the shooters shoulder, etc. I definitely wouldn't try juicing it up any more than it is already.
If you look around you won't see many factories offering the 500 in a rifle... that alone makes it different already.

Spanky

Troyboy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2011, 04:56:03 PM »

It is something you either get or you do not. I do. The shock and awe is something else. Ya can also load as light or heavy as desired.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2011, 05:21:31 PM »

I may be wrong, but I think this factory loaded cartridge is pushing the limits on the H&R platform. If you want to make it into something 'more'(a +p 500?) a Ruger No.1 would serve you better. As far as I know they dont chamber that round (yet?); so a rebarrel or re-bore. Expensive......yes, but any more than maybe destroying an H&R in the learning curve, maybe not.
Like the drag racer said to the question of "Whats it take to go fast?",
"Cubic dollars".

jason045 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 11, 2011, 05:40:26 PM »

The 610gr ranger ricks I can highly recommend. Not only have they been supremely accurate for me, but will penetrate stem to stern of just about anything walking. I shot a spike last year where the bullet entered the shoulder and exited way back on the offside ham. About three foot of deer. And that was AFTER it went through four inches of pine tree!

As far as something different, I got a 25-06 donor barrel being transformed into a .375 H&H Flanged at the moment. It will be the only one as far as I know.

blind ear · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:51:36 AM »

A broad meplat 500 grain bullett @ 1500 fps shot through a cape buffalo end to end in an article that I read. (American Rifleman I think.) Don't know the caliber.

My 500 H&R kicked too hard to worry about trying to solve the pop open problem. It had a bad barrel (thank goodness) and I got something different.

If I had to have a 500 S&W It would be in a different "heavier gun" platform. But, I am just old and weak and tender.

Have fun.

ear

Spanky · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2011, 03:38:22 AM »

I'm using Trailboss and cast bullets for my 500 reloads (thanks John). No kick and quiet. Low velocity but I'm sure it'll shoot through a deer just fine.

Spanky

Jason F · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2011, 10:03:29 AM »

has anyone tried those 700 grain bullets yet

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2011, 10:19:09 AM »

Quote from: Spanky on April 12, 2011, 03:38:22 AM

I'm using Trailboss and cast bullets for my 500 reloads (thanks John). No kick and quiet. Low velocity but I'm sure it'll shoot through a deer just fine.

Spanky

Trailboss and cast bullets have saved a lot of these heavy hitters at both ends from becoming safe queens and garden stakes.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:12:10 PM »

Quote from: Jason F on April 12, 2011, 10:03:29 AM

has anyone tried those 700 grain bullets yet

Just on paper.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,121843.msg1098426870.html#msg1098426870

Jason F · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:37:27 PM »

just bought a box of hornady 350 xtp and shot a few,i dont think it kicks as hard as my 45-70

briannmilewis · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2011, 06:41:58 PM »

Did you know the 700 grain bullets come with a neck brace?

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2011, 04:08:12 AM »

I'm just going to guess, but I'll bet it probably hits about as hard as Troy Polamalu catching up to a receiver running a crossing pattern at full speed right across the middle.

Spanky · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2011, 05:31:38 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo47 on April 13, 2011, 04:08:12 AM

I'm just going to guess, but I'll bet it probably hits about as hard as Troy Polamalu catching up to a receiver running a crossing pattern at full speed right across the middle.

Hehehehehehe... that'll leave a mark.

Spanky

northkid · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2011, 02:05:54 PM »

Quote from: xhare on April 11, 2011, 05:08:15 AM

Dont know why you would want to get more out of it. It kick likes mule as is. If you want more, buy the Ranger Rick 700 grain bullets. As far as wildcats go, I have heard of a few based on the .500 inch barrel, but most are going to be .510-.512 inch.

You can get his .458 DIA 720 GRAIN FNGC

Who wants them 700gr ones?

Spanky · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2011, 02:12:09 PM »

Quote from: northkid on April 13, 2011, 02:05:54 PM

Quote from: xhare on April 11, 2011, 05:08:15 AM
Dont know why you would want to get more out of it. It kick likes mule as is. If you want more, buy the Ranger Rick 700 grain bullets. As far as wildcats go, I have heard of a few based on the .500 inch barrel, but most are going to be .510-.512 inch.
You can get his .458 DIA 720 GRAIN FNGC Who wants them 700gr ones?

Those .458's will be a "little" undersized for the .500 bore.

Just kiddin'... are they intended for 45-70 or 458 mag or ??
Bullets that big and heavy would probably shoot through a bull elephant.

Spanky

quickdtoo · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2011, 02:26:50 PM »

The 720gr RR .458" bullets are a bit too long to stabilize in the 1:20" twist at any speed a 45-70 can push them at sane pressures, I sent Tyler some to shoot in his 45-120, they keyholed, but still did some major penetration in wood. They'd need at least 1800fps to stabilize according to the Greenhill formula, I don't think Tyler got them anywhere near that, IIRC it would need over 40kpsi to do it, I think that was his calculated pressure limit.

Tim

oldsoldja · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2011, 03:25:23 PM »

I shot a 700 into the end of a 6x6, it went in 24 inches. So theres no hiding behind trees.