Author Topic: O'Reilly puts and end to Obama's birthplace and other falsehoods. (Read 4449 times)

XD40SC · « **on:** April 14, 2011, 05:04:10 AM »

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/bill-oreilly-separating-fact-myth-regarding-president-obama

guzzijohn · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2011, 05:29:51 AM »

The bad news is that it will not put an end to anything as many people have just made up their mind on these things and no one is going to change it no matter what the evidence. Several have said that Obama could easily put an end to the birther thing by producing his birth certificate. If he did they would all say it was a fabrication, etc., etc......
GuzziJohn

sidewinder319 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:29:34 AM »

Amazing the Left Wing Dems hated O'Riley called him a liar and worse. Now because the senile old Irishman says O'Bama is good to go, he is a paragon of truth. And you Dems wonder why half the nation is asking for validation.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #3 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:38:24 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on April 14, 2011, 05:29:51 AM

The bad news is that it will not put an end to anything as many people have just made up their mind on these things and no one is going to change it no matter what the evidence. Several have said that Obama could easily put an end to the birther thing by producing his birth certificate. If he did they would all say it was a fabrication, etc., etc......
GuzziJohn

"Well" Golly Geewhizz guzz!

How hard would it be to just give it shot? (You know) Just call a press conference, lay the damn thing on the table for all to see. I bet you and I could do that, and would.

Billy O didn't say anything we doubters haven't heard before.........They said, He said, and we stand behind it. Shucks Billy! If you believe it, then the rest of the world should too. What could we be thinking?

Contrary to what you believe Guzz, I'm a doubter that would drop the whole thing if he would just show it to the people and say .."OK" folks here it is, now lets get on with restoring the Republic

Junior1942 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:59:42 AM »

>Contrary to what you believe Guzz, I'm a doubter that would drop the whole thing if he would just show it to the people and say .."OK" folks here it is, now lets get on with restoring the Republic

He's done that at least twice with his Certificate of Birth, which is ALL he has and ALL he can get. If Jesus H. Christ did it for him, 99.99% of the birthers would call it a lie.

wreckhog · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2011, 08:30:17 AM »

The time to do it would be right before Monday Night football 11/5/2012.

He has been practicing. See here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8

XD40SC · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2011, 08:56:29 AM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on April 14, 2011, 06:38:24 AM

Quote from: guzzijohn on April 14, 2011, 05:29:51 AM
The bad news is that it will not put an end to anything as many people have just made up their mind on these things and no one is going to change it no matter what the evidence. Several have said that Obama could easily put an end to the birther thing by producing his birth certificate. If he did they would all say it was a fabrication, etc., etc......
GuzziJohn

"Well" Golly Geewhizz guzz! How hard would it be to just give it shot? (You know) Just call a press conference, lay the damn thing on the table for all to see. I bet you and I could do that, and would.

Billy O didn't say anything we doubters haven't heard before.........They said, He said, and we stand behind it. Shucks Billy! If you believe it, then the rest of the world should too. What could we be thinking?

Contrary to what you believe Guzz, I'm a doubter that would drop the whole thing if he would just show it to the people and say .."OK" folks here it is, now lets get on with restoring the Republic

[/u]Isn't that what Thomas said about Jesus??

magooch · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2011, 09:34:57 AM »

Somebody is lying about something here. Ann Coulter said that she personally has seen the long form of Osama's birth certificate--whatever that is. Maybe she's full of crap, becaise now Junior says all the Obamanation has is a certificate of birth--whatever that is. If it is true that Osama has shown his papers to folks, it's kind of strange that ole Chris "my leg tingles" Mathews never heard of it. So I'm taking the high road and saying that Obama is a G*da&nedliar and I wouldn't believe him if his own black Granny backed him up--which she hasn't.

wreckhog · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2011, 09:45:11 AM »

Quote from: magooch on April 14, 2011, 09:34:57 AM

Somebody is lying about something here. Ann Coulter said that she personally has seen the long form of Osama's birth certificate--whatever that is. Maybe she's full of crap, becaise now Junior says all the Obamanation has is a certificate of birth--whatever that is. If it is true that Osama has shown his papers to folks, it's kind of strange that ole Chris "my leg tingles" Mathews never heard of it. So I'm taking the high road and saying that Obama is a G*da&nedliar and I wouldn't believe him if his own black Granny backed him up--which she hasn't.

That puts you slightly to the left of the average "birther"

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2011, 09:50:39 AM »

How did he go to Pakistan in 1982 without a passport?. You have to produce a birth certificate to get a passport, I had to to get mine. In 1982 Pakistan wouldn't allow Americans to come into the country. What passport did he use? He attended school in Indonesia and had to be a citizen of Indonesia to attend. Indonesia at that time wouldn't allow dual citizenship. His mother had Indonesian citizenship. Hmmm. Why won't he release his college records? Hmmm. What is going on? Is he the Manchurian cantidate? He lied somewhere in all this. IF he is American, He lied somewhere to get a passport to Pakistan or lied to get into school. Ask the questions, stop defending him. At least Jessie Jackson is an American and other black liberals. I voted for Alan Keyes against Bush back in 2,000 in Alabama. His conservative background was better, and I thought a conservative black would be good for America not just any black. Obama is a Faibian socialist and is a puppet of George Soros.

magooch · « **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:09:38 AM »

Fabian Socialist huh. The word I use begins with "f", but it ain't Fabian. Obama is an effing communist and nothing short of a full blown red Lenninist, Stallinist variety.

lgm270 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:17:19 AM »

O'Reilly's monlolgue does not resolve any of the questions raised by the murky, fictional history of Barack Obama.

O'Reilly has not researched any pertinent issue regarding the Obamas beyond the most superficial and obvious level. He has not even discovered the fact that the 1995 and 2006 editions of Dreams From My Father show two different WW2 era photographs of Obama's grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, wearing a US Marine corps uniform, notwithstanding that the conformist history of the Dunham family is that Dunham served in the U.S. Army. These photo's are obvious, clumsy forgeries and frauds.

On this and on other issues, O'Reilly's research is incomplete, unprofessional and, for the most part, predictably conformist.

wreckhog · « **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:19:55 AM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on April 14, 2011, 09:50:39 AM

How did he go to Pakistan in 1982 without a passport?. You have to produce a birth certificate to get a passport, I had to to get mine. In 1982 Pakistan wouldn't allow Americans to come into the country. What passport did he use? He attended school in Indonesia and had to be a citizen of Indonesia to attend. Indonesia at that time wouldn't allow dual citizenship. His mother had Indonesian citizenship. Hmmm. Why won't he release his college records? Hmmm. What is going on? Is he the Manchurian cantidate? He lied somewhere in all this. IF he is American, He lied somewhere to get a passport to Pakistan or lied to get into school. Ask the questions, stop defending him. At least Jessie Jackson is an American and other black liberals. I voted for Alan Keyes against Bush back in 2,000 in Alabama. His conservative background was better, and I thought a conservative black would be good for America not just any black. Obama is a Faibian socialist and is a puppet of George Soros.

You don't have to produce a birth certificate to get a passport. Your parents can produce it for you. I believe that rules now are that both parents have to show up with you, their passports and your birth certificate at the USPS Post Office to submit the paperwork, then in 2 months, it shows up in the mail.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:29:43 AM »

Quote from: Junior1942 on April 14, 2011, 06:59:42 AM

>Contrary to what you believe Guzz, I'm a doubter that would drop the whole thing if he would just show it to the people and say .."OK" folks here it is, now lets get on with restoring the Republic

He's done that at least twice with his Certificate of Birth, which is ALL he has and ALL he can get. If Jesus H. Christ did it for him, 99.99% of the birthers would call it a lie.

So! does anyone on the Big Isle have a birth certificate? or do they all have a certificate of live birth?.....................Just show a real BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Us old tinfoil hat birther's WILL believe it.

But I wonder! If he came out on national TV and said he was born in Kenya, would it make any difference to you? Would the Liberal's that voted for him ask for his removal from office? I seriously doubt it

BBF · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:48:03 AM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on April 14, 2011, 06:38:24 AM

Quote from: guzzijohn on April 14, 2011, 05:29:51 AM
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I'm a doubter that would drop the whole thing if he would just show it to the people and say .."OK" folks here it is, now lets get on with restoring the Republic

I doubt he knows what a Constituional Republic is.

Now if you were thinking of a Peoples Republic that would be a very different matter

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2011, 11:35:40 AM »

Wreckhog, in 1982 he was 21. Where were his parents then? He had to get a passport. If he came back to the US as a child. His passport was out of date by 1982 and he had to get a new one since he was an adult.

jimster · « **Reply #16 on:** April 14, 2011, 11:59:25 AM »

I don't think Obama's birth place ever made a difference in my mind, just the fact the guy got voted in at all with no experience in anything, with a very questionable background and associates/friends, tells me things are so screwed up it doesn't matter who holds this office (obviously) and where the guy is born is the least of my worries, I simply don't care.

I like O'Reilly OK. Although I don't agree with him on everything he seems pretty independent to me and uses logic "most" of the time, I'm glad to see there are some progressive types here that like him, maybe there is hope and they also agree on many other thing O'Reilly talks about. Hey, at least he demands an simple answer to a direct question from both sides most the time. You want to see bias interviews depending on which side, with no facts watch MSNBC, sometimes I do, it's a hoot.

Mike38 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 14, 2011, 12:13:49 PM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on April 14, 2011, 10:29:43 AM

Quote from: Junior1942 on April 14, 2011, 06:59:42 AM
>Contrary to what you believe Guzz, I'm a doubter that would drop the whole thing if he would just show it to the people and say .."OK" folks here it is, now lets get on with restoring the Republic

He's done that at least twice with his Certificate of Birth, which is ALL he has and ALL he can get. If Jesus H. Christ did it for him, 99.99% of the birthers would call it a lie.

So! does anyone on the Big Isle have a birth certificate? or do they all have a certificate of live birth?.....................Just show a real BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Us old tinfoil hat birther's WILL believe it.

But I wonder! If he came out on national TV and said he was born in Kenya, would it make any difference to you? Would the Liberal's that voted for him ask for his removal from office? I seriously doubt it

According to Bill O’reilly, what is being shown to the public is Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth” not his Birth Certificate. There is a difference. In Hawaii, your Birth Certificate is a page in a bound book, just like a hardback book you see in a Library. That book is not allowed out of the state building it is being stored in.

A “Certificate of Live Birth” is what you get to take out of the state building where records are kept. The “Certificate of Live Birth” means nothing outside of the state of Hawaii.

I can get a Hawaii “Certificate of Live Birth” . You can get one too. All you need to do is show your Birth Certificate, and have the cash, and they will print you one up.

Again, what Obama is showing to the public IS NOT a Birth Certificate. He is showing a “Certificate of Live Birth” and there is a difference.

streak · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2011, 12:25:01 PM »

Of course O`Reilly also blew his wad on stating that the reason that Obammy had a Connecticut SSN# was because that his father had "lived in Connecticut" and thus the Connecticut SSN#!

This is total Bovine Scat!

HarryRichardson · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2011, 12:36:39 PM »

I think Obama sends a thrill up O'Reilly's leg, but he's too arrogant to admit it.

DakotaElkSlayer · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:32:38 PM »

Ummmm....if Obama's Mom is an American citizen, he becomes one when he is born NO MATTER where the birth takes place. You folks do KNOW THAT, right?

Jim

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:41:35 PM »

If I have to choose who to believe O'Reilly or Putin, I'm stumped.

Lon371 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2011, 11:06:52 PM »

Quote from: DakotaElkSlayer on April 14, 2011, 10:32:38 PM

Ummmm....if Obama's Mom is an American citizen, he becomes one when he is born NO MATTER where the birth takes place. You folks do KNOW THAT, right?

Jim

NO! To be a Natural Born Citizen, both parents must be U.S. citizens. Does not matter where you are born. If it was just a matter of where, our embassy's would be crowded with ladies waiting to drop their newborns.

Lonny

wreckhog · « **Reply #23 on:** April 14, 2011, 11:27:37 PM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on April 14, 2011, 11:35:40 AM

Wreckhog, in 1982 he was 21. Where were his parents then? He had to get a passport. If he came back to the US as a child. His passport was out of date by 1982 and he had to get a new one since he was an adult.

You can get a passport as a newborn or other child. In fact, you need one to travel overseas. Yes, children take planes. Obviously a newborn is not going to be filling out any paperwork. Your parents do it up to 16. Even if you have a minor passport, you have to apply again yourself once you hit 16. The thing is, that passport that you had as a minor, is all the proof that you need to get a new passport.

Now I am surprised that the issue of identity theft has not been raised. In the old days, it was very common to use the birth certificate of a dead child to apply for a new identity, including passport. I think that Abbie Hoffman even told you how to do it in Steal This Book. This is much harder to do in the last 20 years. Who is to say that George Soros did not kill a child, a legally born Obama, and replace him with a Kenyan, at some point?

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

wreckhog · « **Reply #24 on:** April 14, 2011, 11:29:22 PM »

Quote from: Lon371 on April 14, 2011, 11:06:52 PM

Quote from: DakotaElkSlayer on April 14, 2011, 10:32:38 PM
Ummmm....if Obama's Mom is an American citizen, he becomes one when he is born NO MATTER where the birth takes place. You folks do KNOW THAT, right?

Jim

NO! To be a Natural Born Citizen, both parents must be U.S. citizens. Does not matter where you are born. If it was just a matter of where, our embassy's would be crowded with ladies waiting to drop their newborns.

Lonny

Huh?

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2011, 01:48:13 AM »

Still doesn' answer the question. Pakistan was'nt allowing Americans into their country in the late 70's and early 80's. How did Obama get in? He couldn't have used an American passport. You see, things with Obama don't add up. To many unexplained unknowns. The birth certificate is the key. However, even if it is a real birth certificate. The Pakistan question, his sealed college records, etc, causes people to question if he is an American the Pakistan thing, and if he used a foreign student aid thing with the colleges. Either way he is lieing and deceitful. Something is wrong. So he keeps things locked up and is quiet about it.

sidewinder319 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:29:42 AM »

O'Reilly is leaning more to the left. He is afraid that the same fate awaits him that got Glen Beck. He has always been a big government guy. He is an antigun urban elitist. He is married to a very left winger. His heroes are the Kennedy Bros. what does that tell you. He does seem to fool a lot of conservatives into thinking he is a good guy. Wrong. He has always been Pro-Obama. His defense of Obama should tell you where he stands.

ironglow · « **Reply #27 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:36:54 AM »

I am pleasantly surprised to see that XD40, Guzzi, Wreckhog and Junior all endorse O'Reilly as a completely credible authority.

Do you guys believe he is completely credible, or are you simply being eclectic; choosing only those things he says and you agree with..as being reliable ?

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2011, 03:24:28 AM »

My questions still go unanswered. Pakistan in 1982? What does his passport say? College records sealed? Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholor, his records were revealed. Bushes were revealed, even the fiasco with the Texas national guard. Bush Sr. was a pilot in WWII. Obama doesn't have many pictures of him as a kid, teenager, early adult life. Who is he for real? Too many things don't add up.

wreckhog · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2011, 03:45:11 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on April 15, 2011, 02:36:54 AM

I am pleasantly surprised to see that XD40, Guzzi, Wreckhog and Junior all endorse O'Reilly as a completely credible authority.

Do you guys believe he is completely credible, or are you simply being eclectic; choosing only those things he says and you agree with..as being reliable ?

When did I ever say that? Show me now. If Dubya tells me I am 6' tall, and I am, does anyone have an issue with that?