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Offline gman1_2

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45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« on: April 14, 2011, 04:06:16 PM »
Hi,
   I am new to the site and have done a search for some load information and seem to not have found what I am looking for yet. I am going to ask the question and see what help I can get.

I have some 350 gr. and 405 gr. cast lead bullets I want to load for my 45-70 handi rifle and need some load info for it. I saw on one post that IMR 4064 is a good powder to use and I have some of it already. If need be I can purchase some other powder. Just hard finding load info for the handi rifle on the net and I really like the little fella (rifle that is) and don't want to hurt it or me. Any help is greatly appreciated
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 04:30:52 PM »
from what they say  here
the gun will take more than you can

i have cast lots of  405 slugs   but yet to work up any loads
so  i will be following this thread

i ''think'' i want to shoot for  mid levergun loads   
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 05:46:19 PM »
Accurate 5744 is the powder to use. Not sure about Trail Boss.
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 06:59:05 PM »
trail boss is great for easy to shoot loads with eather the350 or 405 grain bullet. Ive had descent results with 4064 and 405 grain bullet. i would say your shoulder will tell you when to stop but eather bullet running 14/1600 will do anything you want.
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 08:05:44 PM »
Good ta see ya made it  ;)
Ask these guy's over here too;
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/board,126.0.html

The FAQ's section in the stikies on top of the linked forum is priceless for Handi/NEF guns. Just intro yerself, tell'm ya got a 45-70 an wanna shoot cast an see what they say.

FWIW the Lyman 49th book has a listing for the cast 405's; nuthin for 350's
Powder,, min-max
SR-4579,, 24.0-26.5
XMP 5744,, 26.0-29.0
IMR-4198,, 31.5-35.0
XMR-2015,, 36.0-40.0
RX7,,37.0-39.0
IMR-3031,, 34.0-38.5
N135,, 42.0-46.5
Varget,, 42.0-46.5
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 08:11:50 AM »
Thanks for all the information.

Thank you necchi for recommending this site

srussell or you other guys where can I find some recipes for cast bullets. I see some info on the 406 gr. bullet here and there but the 350 gr. is hard to find

like I said earlier Thank You guys for the help
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 08:37:02 AM »
I've got a load for the 350 cb's at the house.
I'll try and remember to look it up.
I've used both  4064 and 4198 with equal good results.
The little 350's are actually fairly pleasant to shoot............relatively speaking. ::)
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 02:17:06 PM »
I've used Trail Boss successfully with 300 & 350 gr cast bullets, I believe the charge was 14 gr. I found it to be an accurate, easy shooting round.
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 04:19:16 PM »
This is a great forum.

Old fart did you get a chance to get the recipe for the 350 gr, bullets
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 05:16:40 PM »
If you do a little searching on the NEF forum, you will find some places to start.  For light loads, you can find data for Unique.  For hunting loads, I use Varget with my 350's cast from a Lyman mold.  I started at 40gr. and worked up from there....

The 405's are very forgiving, and I can load from min. to max. and still get acceptable accuracy.  Most of my loads were worked up from the Lyman handbook.

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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 08:48:47 AM »
I have used 14.5gr. Unique under a 405gr. bullet that accounted for 2 deer. (One shot apiece)
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 02:53:53 PM »
H4198 is the only powder I use in my 45/70 Handi.

Kevin
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 04:45:06 PM »
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2011, 05:00:59 AM »
Quote from: gman1_2 on April 18, 2011, 04:19:16 PM
Old fart did you get a chance to get the recipe for the 350 gr, bullets

Life got in the way, but I'll make an effort to do it tonite. Sorry.
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2011, 01:07:03 PM »
Okay I was wrong. :-[
They're 340 gr. - LEE  457-340F Double mold.

Anyway here's what my Buffalo Classic likes.

Starline brass
Winchester WLR primers

IMR 4198 40gr ~1575 fps
IMR 4895 47gr ~1430 fps

It shoots them real well, usually better than I can shoot. ;D
Hope this helps you out a little.
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Re: 45-70 loads for handi rifle with cast 350 gr. and 405 gr. bullets
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2011, 03:46:56 PM »
Thank You for all the help you all have given me
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