Thanks for the information, folks. i'm gonna try all of them to see what is the best. One good thing, I got a reply from Midway concerning the e-mail I sent about their site. They didn't seem to know they had a problem, but they did answer. It could be me and my system, but why is it only Midway that I was having a problem with? I visited a dozen or more sites, several catalouge web pages, and no problem. I have had this same problem with their site before, every since they re made thei r site last year.