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Offline (dw)

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Found some barrels for sale
« on: April 28, 2011, 07:38:37 AM »
I found some 16" steel barrels for sale, originally manufactured by "US Naval Gun Factory W.N.Y." around 1943-1944.  Here are the details: 

Qty 14ea Tubes and weigh approx 236,900 lbs ea and are 816 inches long, Tube thickness being approx 15in. at the breach and 4in. at the muzzle, Metal content is approx, Fe 98.40, Ni 0.10, Si 0.60, Mn 0.10, Cr 0.20, Mo 0.30, Co 0.10 W 0.10.

Unfortunately, demil is required as condition of the sale, but I thought I would give you a chance to look/bid just in case.  ;)  Pretty cool pieces of history!

Here is the link: http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=4363825

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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 08:49:44 AM »
Building the carriage would be a real challenge!
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 09:05:04 AM »
Quote from: Mike H. on April 28, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
Building the carriage would be a real challenge!

Not for Zulu!

 ;) ;D
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 10:03:56 AM »
The first bid for these was $150 but it's up to $291K which is out of my league by a few orders of magnitude.  Demilling wouldn't have been a problem unless they wanted them cut into 4' long pieces.

But 16" bore was just too much.
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 10:55:45 AM »
I don't think I'd be allowed to keep one of those in my apt.
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 01:09:52 PM »
sections big enough for ........ 16 inch Howitzer......... 16 inch mortar..........   ::)
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 01:38:07 PM »
Quote from: Cat Whisperer on April 28, 2011, 09:05:04 AM
Quote from: Mike H. on April 28, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
Building the carriage would be a real challenge!

Not for Zulu!

 ;) ;D

Cat,
I would need an entire redwood tree for that!! :o
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 01:59:19 PM »
Check my post on worst deer cal. Didn't know you could still buy them.
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 05:00:22 PM »
it would be really cool tho to have a 1/4 inch thick slice off of the gun to hang on the wall.  but at over 200,000 lbs a barrel, i am not sure what else will happen to them but scrap metal. maybe we will see a few sections for sale in the future from dealers.

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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 06:34:50 PM »
This may sound funny but why the demil??. There are only 4 ships in this class that can use these bbls and unless
some multi billonaire has the bucks to pony up for one ship, if ever one was to come up for sale. Even a 4' piece cut for a mortar would weigh a lot. And 16" shells aren't exactly growing on trees. Frank
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 06:59:47 PM »
rampa room artillery (hence known as rra) that is a great idea  8) . There are people selling wrecked fenders from NASCAR . I'll bet thin sections of barrel would sell  ;D Clocks ,end tables , boat anchors  ::)

Mounted in a nice shadow box maybe .
     
.........How about a group buy ? We could keep it at DD's Gopher Ranch .

That way he and Ernie can saw it up and then sell it at the Cut Bank triple c shoot .(im drawing a blank right now on the official name .)    :o 8) ???
 ........ That's a good idea ..... what do you think Douglas ?     Ernie ? I think you are right !

Sweet , you are right DD  ;D that is a good idea you came up with it ! I'd like the muzzle end section please because ....well just because  ;D

I would like the face of the muzzle dated from the 20's or 30's too .(please)

Thanks Gary ;)

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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 07:14:28 PM »
I would like the face of the muzzle dated from the 20's or 30's too.

We can put anything you like on the muzzle side for only a small additional charge.   ;D
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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 07:16:13 PM »
I can get that deal almost anywhere . :o

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Re: Found some barrels for sale
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 02:33:01 PM »
The tough part would be finding the breech and a ground mount.  At 816" and 239,000 pounds they are from 16"/50 Caliber Mark 2 or Mark 7 guns.  I think the tubes were the same.  With the breech they would have been about 30,000 pounds heavier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_inch_%28406_mm%29/50_caliber_Mark_7_naval_gun

There is one at the Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Grounds on a Coastal Artillery mount.  I think the Aberdeen one is a 15" one though regardless of this photo's caption.

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/North_America/United_States_of_America/Maryland/Aberdeen-796824/Things_To_Do-Aberdeen-TG-C-1.html#1

All these were made at the Army cannon factory in Waterveliet, NY across the Hudson from Albany.  At one time during the Cold War they made 90+% of the Free World's 155mm and larger cannon. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watervliet_Arsenal

There's a picture of the muzzle of one on that web page.

The naval gun tubes were floated down the Hudson to Navy Island where the Navy had a ammunition dump or directly to the Brooklyn Naval Yard.


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