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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #210 on: June 06, 2011, 01:59:21 PM »
Some of my old military buddies say old Bin was killed before they notified BO of the op. Story goes that BO refused to allow the team a kill op, but when confronted with the op was over and Bin was dead BO had to save face.
I repeat: BS.  Unadulterated.  Stinky. 

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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #211 on: June 06, 2011, 02:22:01 PM »
Some of my old military buddies say old Bin was killed before they notified BO of the op. Story goes that BO refused to allow the team a kill op, but when confronted with the op was over and Bin was dead BO had to save face.

Billy are you putting out a conspiracy theory or do you have facts?
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« Reply #212 on: June 06, 2011, 02:37:38 PM »
Some of my old military buddies say old Bin was killed before they notified BO of the op. Story goes that BO refused to allow the team a kill op, but when confronted with the op was over and Bin was dead BO had to save face.
I repeat: BS.  Unadulterated.  Stinky.
Jr - Please calm down, it's starting to sound like my niece when her brother told her there wasn't an Easter bunny.

Lost Farmboy - I tried to verify or disprove it on Snopes, but was unable to do so.  Typical considering that snopes is run by a liberal.  Try the following links:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/03/leon-panetta-not-obama-issued-order-to-kill-bin-laden/
http://deeperwalk.lefora.com/2011/05/07/leon-panetta-gave-the-order-not-obama/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2716684/posts
http://amberandchaos.com/?p=1117
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/05/did-leon-panett.html
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/forum/topics/leon-panetta-cia-gave-the

You make up your mind, the first link pajamamedia.com is fairly accurate.  I can't vouch for the other sites, as there may be political bias involved.
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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #213 on: June 06, 2011, 03:02:27 PM »
Jr. Just a little story I am passing on. Just because it doesn't make your messiah shine doesn't mean you have to get your dander up. BO looks like a hero, real men know he is a zero.


And Lost no conspiracy just the way it is done. The ends justify the means!
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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #214 on: June 06, 2011, 03:04:06 PM »
Some of my old military buddies say old Bin was killed before they notified BO of the op. Story goes that BO refused to allow the team a kill op, but when confronted with the op was over and Bin was dead BO had to save face.
I repeat: BS.  Unadulterated.  Stinky.
Jr - Please calm down, it's starting to sound like my niece when her brother told her there wasn't an Easter bunny.

Lost Farmboy - I tried to verify or disprove it on Snopes, but was unable to do so.  Typical considering that snopes is run by a liberal.  Try the following links:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/03/leon-panetta-not-obama-issued-order-to-kill-bin-laden/
http://deeperwalk.lefora.com/2011/05/07/leon-panetta-gave-the-order-not-obama/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2716684/posts
http://amberandchaos.com/?p=1117
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/05/did-leon-panett.html
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/forum/topics/leon-panetta-cia-gave-the

You make up your mind, the first link pajamamedia.com is fairly accurate.  I can't vouch for the other sites, as there may be political bias involved.
Lots of links to BS on BS sites doesn't change one BIG fact: it's still BS.  Face another BIG fact: if GWB was still in office, OBL would still be watching porno with his wives.

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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #215 on: June 06, 2011, 03:25:23 PM »

And Lost no conspiracy just the way it is done. The ends justify the means!

It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #216 on: June 06, 2011, 03:27:57 PM »
Now really Jr. one reason no one is being charged under UCMJ is that a kill order was givin by W as an executive order and was never rescinded. But don't worry these operators will never put this story out officially so your parasite messiah is safe. Wouldn't it be a hoot though if right before the 2012 election these guys came out and testified under oath in front of congress.
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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #217 on: June 06, 2011, 03:35:37 PM »
Quote from Junior 1942 "Lots of links to BS on BS sites doesn't change one BIG fact: it's still BS.  Face another BIG fact: if GWB was still in office, OBL would still be watching porno with his wives."

Jr - Let me ask you, do you have facts to back that statement up?  At least I tried to get a contradictory view point, or a refuting message from that "paradigm of truth", snopes, the liberals beloved "fact spinner". 
But, all you do is yell: "there is an Easter bunny, yah, yah, yah ......"
Why don't you face the facts: There is no Easter bunny.
If you want to argue facts, argue facts.  I really don't need to have you spout lines from the little red book of Obama. 
If GWB was in office, OBL would still be dead.
I am willing to listen and consider all real facts and intelligent arguments, but just repeating lies, contrary to Joseph Goebbels line: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." doesn't make it true.  Intelligent people will see it for what it is just a lie. 
So Jr, if you have a legitimate point, please make it.
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts." - Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

When you allow a lie to go unchallenged, it becomes the truth.

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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #218 on: June 06, 2011, 03:43:24 PM »
Now really Jr. one reason no one is being charged under UCMJ is that a kill order was givin by W as an executive order and was never rescinded. But don't worry these operators will never put this story out officially so your parasite messiah is safe.

It smells even more like a conspiracy theory now.
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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #219 on: June 06, 2011, 03:51:59 PM »
Quote from Junior 1942 "Lots of links to BS on BS sites doesn't change one BIG fact: it's still BS.  Face another BIG fact: if GWB was still in office, OBL would still be watching porno with his wives."

Jr - Let me ask you, do you have facts to back that statement up?  At least I tried to get a contradictory view point, or a refuting message from that "paradigm of truth", snopes, the liberals beloved "fact spinner". 
But, all you do is yell: "there is an Easter bunny, yah, yah, yah ......"
Why don't you face the facts: There is no Easter bunny.
If you want to argue facts, argue facts.  I really don't need to have you spout lines from the little red book of Obama. 
If GWB was in office, OBL would still be dead.
I am willing to listen and consider all real facts and intelligent arguments, but just repeating lies, contrary to Joseph Goebbels line: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." doesn't make it true.  Intelligent people will see it for what it is just a lie. 
So Jr, if you have a legitimate point, please make it.
OBL is dead.  During Obama's watch.  Not during GWB's watch.

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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #220 on: June 06, 2011, 04:32:50 PM »
TN, Pershing's actions seem to be heralded by many on this board, and those on many other similar political boards. And in bars, gun clubs, family picnics, weddings, etc. That link (from the blog of a former US Special Forces career NCO) I posted gives you a sense of what I see. The censure does not seem to have impacted his esteem among military veterans. Just the opposite I would say. That is why I brought it up. So what you are saying is that you condemn those actions, as does the US military (except for that NCO of course)? If so, I concur.

The US military has always operated under the rule of Law (UCMJ), and has held itself to a higher standard of behavior than that of the citizenry. Evils committed under the guise of necessity are still evils. Honor, good order and discipline are actually upheld by the Commanding Officer which is why a servicemember can be punished by Non-Judicial Punishment without any evidence other than the determination of the CO of guilt.

In every situation, I try hard not to define a group by the acts of an individual, no matter how significant to that group the particular individual might be.
The War of Succesion and Indian wars omited ? Just asking .
The UCMJ was enacted May 5, 1950, signed into law by President Harry S. Truman. 
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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #221 on: June 06, 2011, 04:36:33 PM »
Quote from Junior 1942 "Lots of links to BS on BS sites doesn't change one BIG fact: it's still BS.  Face another BIG fact: if GWB was still in office, OBL would still be watching porno with his wives."

Jr - Let me ask you, do you have facts to back that statement up?  At least I tried to get a contradictory view point, or a refuting message from that "paradigm of truth", snopes, the liberals beloved "fact spinner". 
But, all you do is yell: "there is an Easter bunny, yah, yah, yah ......"
Why don't you face the facts: There is no Easter bunny.
If you want to argue facts, argue facts.  I really don't need to have you spout lines from the little red book of Obama. 
If GWB was in office, OBL would still be dead.
I am willing to listen and consider all real facts and intelligent arguments, but just repeating lies, contrary to Joseph Goebbels line: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." doesn't make it true.  Intelligent people will see it for what it is just a lie. 
So Jr, if you have a legitimate point, please make it.
OBL is dead.  During Obama's watch.  Not during GWB's watch.
If the above statement is the best you can come up with, you have no argument with my statement, that; If GWB (or any other person) was in office, OBL would still be dead.
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts." - Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

When you allow a lie to go unchallenged, it becomes the truth.

My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.

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Re: Bin Laden DEAD!!!
« Reply #222 on: June 06, 2011, 05:10:40 PM »
Kinda funny BO first refused to allow the operators to assassinate Bin, but when confronted that he was killed a few hours earlier he was glad to take credit for it. Like I said it would be very funny if some of these operators testified under oath just before the election. I bet they have the parasite messiah eating out of their hands.  ;)
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