Author Topic: Osama Bin Laden (Read 11594 times)

us920669 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 07, 2011, 06:27:22 AM »

It just proves we tried to turn him or recruit him. It would have been a good move if it had worked, but he double crossed us - probably happens all the time, and I'm sure we have had our successes. It certainly doesn't prove we created Al Qaeda. Every time the terrorists strike it weakens us, makes us look impotent, or worse. Image you are a big-wig riding around Washington in an SUV with smoked windows. One joker hiding behind a tree with a 1950 bazooka and you could be guest of honor at a state funeral. No one wants to see them succeed.

Yes, media and politics are full of corrupt people - amoral might be a better word. It's really our fault because we reward them for it. They are capable of almost anything, but it's usually not as bad as it seems. Don't let your imagination run wild.

purpledragon · « **Reply #31 on:** May 07, 2011, 07:57:27 AM »

Wait a minute fellows, we did hire him and his Taliban. Dick Chaney hired him and his bunch to help guard the pipe line that was being run back in papa Bush's time.Bin Laden was asking for more and more money to keep doing what he was hired for.It wasn't until Ole Dick said FU we are not giving you another dime.That's when the s--t hit the fan.So no we did not try to turn him or recruit him WE HIRED HIM.........

BBF · « **Reply #32 on:** May 07, 2011, 08:40:08 AM »

Quote from: us920669 on May 07, 2011, 06:27:22 AM

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.................. They are capable of almost anything, but it's usually not as bad as it seems. ..................

I beg to differ. IMO it turns out to be worse then it seems.

us920669 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 07, 2011, 11:11:03 AM »

I thought we were talking about Al Qaeda. We have had an on again off again relationship with Taliban for some time, and if we "win" in Afghanistan, it will amount to getting Taliban to let girls go to school or something just as radical. I know, this whole thing did not just drop from the sky on 9-11. We supported bin Laden's group when they were fighting the Russians in the '80s. I thought it was right then and I still do.

Why oh why couldn't we have just stayed at home and minded our own business. I think the country went off the rails around the late 19th or early 20th Centuries. We gained the world but we lost our own country.

sdb777 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 07, 2011, 03:26:51 PM »

Quote from: us920669 on May 07, 2011, 11:11:03 AM

I thought we were talking about Al Qaeda. We have had an on again off again relationship with Taliban for some time, and if we "win" in Afghanistan, it will amount to getting Taliban to let girls go to school or something just as radical. I know, this whole thing did not just drop from the sky on 9-11. We supported bin Laden's group when they were fighting the Russians in the '80s. I thought it was right then and I still do.

Why oh why couldn't we have just stayed at home and minded our own business. I think the country went off the rails around the late 19th or early 20th Centuries. We gained the world but we lost our own country.

#1: We are never going to 'win'...this is about drugs again. CIA/DEA are at it again, pipeline of opium. Afghanistan is the biggest exporter of the drug. And we all remember the Contra/drug/money laudering operation Oliver North, Hull, and VP Bush had going on during the Reagan years.......just a different place and a new drug....same game, new names!

#2: We don't stay home, because our drugs stink!

Scott B

purpledragon · « **Reply #35 on:** May 07, 2011, 05:16:57 PM »

Scott, You nailed that one!!..............

billy_56081 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2011, 06:31:55 AM »

Just goes to show you, there are no moderate muslims, they are all terrorists.

sdb777 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2011, 10:10:07 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 06:31:55 AM

Just goes to show you, there are no moderate muslims, they are all terrorists.

There isn't any way I'd believe that....there is good and bad in every race, religon, nationality, even families! Maybe even in the CIA, DEA, Congress, White House Czars, local guberment too.......

Scott B

billy_56081 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 08, 2011, 01:28:28 PM »

Quote from: sdb777 on May 08, 2011, 10:10:07 AM

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 06:31:55 AM
Just goes to show you, there are no moderate muslims, they are all terrorists.

There isn't any way I'd believe that....there is good and bad in every race, religon, nationality, even families! Maybe even in the CIA, DEA, Congress, White House Czars, local guberment too.......

Scott B

The muslims know there are folks like you, they are using your silly multiculturalism.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2011, 01:52:29 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 06:31:55 AM

Just goes to show you, there are no moderate muslims, they are all terrorists.

I know this isn't true. I have Muslim friends. Some born here, some came here for freedom.

If I had the attitude about Muslims that you have I would never have led any to the Kingdom of God though Jesus Christ. Each one of them was a victory in heaven and the angels sang. One of these former Muslims is now a Christian minister. I share the love of God and salvation through Jesus with them instead of taking the NWO bait and attacking them at every chance.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 08, 2011, 03:12:31 PM »

I bet they are your friends.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #41 on:** May 08, 2011, 03:35:17 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 03:12:31 PM

I bet they are your friends.

I also have friends that are Buddhist, Hindu, Jews and atheist.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 08, 2011, 04:29:54 PM »

Quote from: Lost Farmboy on May 08, 2011, 03:35:17 PM

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 03:12:31 PM
I bet they are your friends.

I also have friends that are Buddhist, Hindu, Jews and atheist.

With those folks their religion does not command them to lieto "infidels". Your multiculturalism is a tool for the evil muslims to infiltrate. Sad you allow yourself to be used.

Buckskin · « **Reply #43 on:** May 09, 2011, 12:36:38 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on May 09, 2011, 03:52:28 AM

Moslems are actually quite open to receive the teachings of Jesus as they already accept him as the messiah and redeemer.

report from eutimes.com

The importance of Obama being linked by his “Star Family” connections to Bush were made even more evident this past week with the American President ordering the assassination of Osama bin Laden, but who was not really Osama bin Laden, but was his nearly identical brother Salem bin Mohammed bin 'Awad bin Laden who was reported killed on May 29, 1988, in San Antonio, Texas while on a visit to see his “best friend”, George W. Bush. [Note: In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas.]

The “original” Osama bin Laden, otherwise known by his CIA code name “Tim Osman”, died of kidney failure in early 2001 as attested to, under oath, by the former US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik who still works for the US Department of Defense, and who further stated that the September 11, 2001 attacks upon American were a “false flag” operation engineered by the “highest levels” of the US government.

The death of Osama, however, didn’t stop the US from carrying out the 9/11 attacks upon itself, and on December 13, 2001 they released a video made by Salem bin Laden, not Osama, claiming responsibility for it [photo bottom left] that was widely ridiculed as being the fake that it actually was.

Under the Islamic religious custom of Levirate Marriage, where a brother is obligated to marry the wives of his deceased brother, Salem bin Laden married the wives of his dead brother Osama and under the protection of both the CIA and Pakistan’s ISI was moved with them to his CIA protected hideaway in Abbottabad, the most protected city in all of Pakistan. [Note: Salem “Osama” bin Laden’s “hideout” in Pakistan was, perhaps, the most widely known “secret” in the intelligence world with one of America’s top journalists, Christiane Amanpour revealing on the October 3, 2008 edition of “Real Time” with Bill Maher, “I just talked to somebody very knowledgeable ... that thinks that he's in a villa, a nice comfortable villa, in Pakistan.”

The drug connection is back as Afghanistan production at near 100% again...as indicated by rising US stock market wherein this money is cleaned.
..TM7

Oh for heavens sakes...

-Shaggy- · « **Reply #44 on:** May 09, 2011, 02:20:18 PM »

purpledragon · « **Reply #45 on:** May 13, 2011, 06:01:27 PM »

This is how I stand on the Muslims:We can't put a monument of the Ten Commandments out because it might offend someone.Every week in New York they block off streets so they can pray on their little blankets.WELL THAT F****NG OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody needs to run through there with a 5 ton truck................Sorry if it offends anyone but thats how I feel...........

purpledragon · « **Reply #46 on:** May 13, 2011, 06:07:11 PM »

Also it is getting better over there.Go back where you came from.Those that have Muslims for friends and get offended by this.You go with them!!!! This was America but we are losing her fast.Lets just keep sitting on our a** and we WILL lose her for good....................

purpledragon · « **Reply #47 on:** May 14, 2011, 07:16:07 AM »

We the Patriots of America did not open the borders,the sorry politicians that need to be run out of Washington did it. All as usual without the vote of the people.Just as they do without the best interest of their people.They voted their self a pay raise and not the disabled because,"there has been no rise in the cost of living".............Come on man.................................

351 power · « **Reply #48 on:** May 15, 2011, 04:12:08 AM »

what if the guy they caught was binladen but the story that he was shot and dumped was false? they could interogate him an dump him later and no one would be looking? might be interesting

billy_56081 · « **Reply #49 on:** May 15, 2011, 04:21:51 AM »

Quote from: 351 power on May 15, 2011, 04:12:08 AM

what if the guy they caught was binladen but the story that he was shot and dumped was false? they could interogate him an dump him later and no one would be looking? might be interesting

That would be sweet, I'd pay to help interogate him.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #50 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:51:30 AM »

Quote from: Lost Farmboy on May 08, 2011, 01:52:29 PM

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 06:31:55 AM
Just goes to show you, there are no moderate muslims, they are all terrorists.

I know this isn't true. I have Muslim friends. Some born here, some came here for freedom.

If I had the attitude about Muslims that you have I would never have led any to the Kingdom of God though Jesus Christ. Each one of them was a victory in heaven and the angels sang. One of these former Muslims is now a Christian minister. I share the love of God and salvation through Jesus with them instead of taking the NWO bait and attacking them at every chance.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #51 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:53:02 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 04:29:54 PM

Quote from: Lost Farmboy on May 08, 2011, 03:35:17 PM
Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2011, 03:12:31 PM
I bet they are your friends.

I also have friends that are Buddhist, Hindu, Jews and atheist.

With those folks their religion does not command them to lieto "infidels". Your multiculturalism is a tool for the evil muslims to infiltrate. Sad you allow yourself to be used.

Most of my Christian friends have never read the Bible and do not really know what is in it. They only know what they have been told. I see the same with Muslims, most have never read the Koran. Only a minority are terrorist. A radical Muslim would never be my friend, because the Koran says never take a Christian or a Jew for a friend. I have read the Koran.

purpledragon · « **Reply #52 on:** June 22, 2011, 06:39:09 AM »

Saying that they are Christians and never read the Bible,is like me saying I am a fighter pilot and never flown a plane or taken a lesson on the subject........come on man....

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #53 on:** June 22, 2011, 06:56:43 AM »

So all those in people from years past and even some today who cannot read are there fore not christians ? even though they believe , accept Christ and go to church.
Kind of short sighted don't you think ?

andy1300 · « **Reply #54 on:** August 06, 2011, 08:25:20 AM »

This shows you that Obama could do , what Bush couldn,t do with torture.*

Matt · « **Reply #55 on:** August 06, 2011, 08:58:21 AM »

I find it odd that 20 of those who supposedly killed OBL are now dead. Dead men tell no tales maybe?

Matt

BBF · « **Reply #56 on:** August 07, 2011, 07:28:10 AM »

Allah's revenge?.......................Naw can't be he doesn't exist. Just a lucky shot from an anti-tank warhead.

BBF · « **Reply #57 on:** August 07, 2011, 11:00:08 AM »

Are you implying the chopper may have been rigged?

srussell · « **Reply #58 on:** August 08, 2011, 12:09:21 AM »

Quote from: Matt on August 06, 2011, 08:58:21 AM

I find it odd that 20 of those who supposedly killed OBL are now dead. Dead men tell no tales maybe?

Matt

so your saying that seal team 6 are any other special ops. unit only has one team with a set number of people. that's like saying the delta force has no back up in their ranks

Matt · « **Reply #59 on:** August 08, 2011, 03:05:59 PM »

Quote from: srussell on August 08, 2011, 12:09:21 AM

Quote from: Matt on August 06, 2011, 08:58:21 AM
I find it odd that 20 of those who supposedly killed OBL are now dead. Dead men tell no tales maybe?

Matt
so your saying that seal team 6 are any other special ops. unit only has one team with a set number of people. that's like saying the delta force has no back up in their ranks

No and you did not read those words from me.

Most of you are a little late on the issues. As I said in my post on the Pot Bellied Stove forum the first reports were that 20 of those killed also were on the OBL mission. That was what I had a problem with as it sounded fishy to me. They have replaced that story after the White House released the official story and now say they were not the same. Were they ? I dont know but I do know what they said in the first hour of the story breaking.
At this point all we can do is remember the families of those lost....

Matt