WTC building #7....why?

[sdb777]

I'll go with the photo's that showed support beams cut in half(like Darth Vaders lightsaber in a stick of butter).  That would be det-cord(denotating cord) used to slice beams.



Unfortunately since your cousin can't make that video....it'll just be considered 'hearsay'.  Do you have any real evidence that can be backed up?








Scott B

[billy_56081]

SDB how about you tell usabout det cord?

[Matt]

I'll go with the photo's that showed support beams cut in half(like Darth Vaders lightsaber in a stick of butter).  That would be det-cord(denotating cord) used to slice beams.



Unfortunately since your cousin can't make that video....it'll just be considered 'hearsay'.  Do you have any real evidence that can be backed up?

Scott B

Scott hate to break it to you but your wrong, not that they used explosives but what they used. The charges used were thermite shape charges not det cord.  This is why there was pools of molten iron at ground zero for weeks. No other material that I am aware of can liquify steel beams in seconds.
Matt

[Lost Farmboy]

Matt you hit the nail on the smoking gun!  It was the large pools of molten iron weeks after that convinced me the buildings were not brought down by the planes.  Only thermite could do it.  The planes were a diversion from the truth.  The pools of molten iron convinced me to keep looking.

[Matt]

Matt you hit the nail on the smoking gun!  It was the large pools of molten iron weeks after that convinced me the buildings were not brought down by the planes.  Only thermite could do it.  The planes were a diversion from the truth.  The pools of molten iron convinced me to keep looking.

Well I must admit that it was TM7 that opened my eyes to the fact that we did not know the whole story and I have spent the last 6 years or so researching and investigating the happenings of 9-11. This has lead me to so many different credible testimonies and has open my eyes to  the larger picture and the NWO take over of the world. So when I learned of the pools weeks later I knew something was not right. I worked as an explosives engineer in Douglasville GA. for a couple of years at The Dynamite Man Inc. I have seen lots of buildings pulled and after revisiting the 9-11 videos it is right there in full color for anyone to see. (squibs) Also if you google 9-11 ground zero images you can find many with the perfect cuts that Scott mentioned way before the first torch hit the debris pile.


Matt

[Matt]

Here are a few pics from my collection:

[billy_56081]

Matt I am wondering how they used thermite for this? I have used thermite for cutting and for welding, but I am at a loss for how it could be used in multiple exactly timed cuts to be able to do a controlled demolition. Thermite is no an explosive it is an incindiary. Basically thermite is finely ground iron oxide aka rust.

[billy_56081]

TM I am just wondering how they would use thermite as claimed in a demolition? The problem with all these conspiracy theories is that the theories under scrutiny do not hold up. First we hear about det cord, neat stuff to say the least, great stuff for custting soft targets but not steel girders, thermite fun and hot great for remote welding or cutting of steel but pretty much impossible to have a precise multiple cut. These theories sound very believable to the layman but really hold no water what so ever with folks who understand the capabilities of the products they claim were used. 

[billy_56081]

So TM have you ever done any thermite welding or cutting? Tell us how you ignite it? Again people are blurting out second hand information that fits their agenda without any real working knowledge of the process.

[Lost Farmboy]

Matt I am wondering how they used thermite for this? I have used thermite for cutting and for welding, but I am at a loss for how it could be used in multiple exactly timed cuts to be able to do a controlled demolition. Thermite is no an explosive it is an incindiary. Basically thermite is finely ground iron oxide aka rust.

Wow  Billy you must be a walking data base of Pentagon secrets.  And you don't know how thermite could be used in demolition.  Oh, I believe your thermite recipe is missing something.

Maybe you can reach into that awesome data base of yours and help us solve the mystery.  3 sky scrapers built in the 70s fell in seconds.  Only 2 were hit by planes, so we can eliminate the planes as the cause of the collapses.  It would have to be something in the buildings.  If not thermite what did they use in the 70 to build sky scrapers that would make them fall so fast by just small fires.  I say small fires because videos of building 7 falling show no signs of fires. 

Firemen reported molten iron flowing down I beams like in a foundry.  If not thermite what could have caused this? 

Three weeks after 911 the cleanup stopped because of large pools of molten iron at the base of all three buildings.  We know this is true because it was reported at the time by FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS AND NBC.  If not thermite what caused the iron to stay molten for three weeks?

[billy_56081]

A person doesn't need to know everything to know that some things are not possible. The issue is that the tinfoilers take everything that supports their agenda as gospel no matter how unrealistic it is. I can't say whether or not there were molten pools of metal at any time under the wreckage. What I can tell you is demolition of any of those buildings was not within the capabilities of thermite or det cord. The problem is these theories that are being promoted are not within the capabilities of the products that were claimed to be used. Kinda like this I happen to know an AK47 round will not fully penetrate the frontal armour on an M1 Abrams tank, but I do not know every weapon that will. A little deductive reasoning goes a long ways, simple as that.

[Lost Farmboy]

I can't say whether or not there were molten pools of metal at any time under the wreckage.

I can.  I saw the news reports live.  They stuck out in my mind for a long time because I thought it to be very strange.  My first career was a machinist.  I had metallurgy classes. 

Every news outlet reported the cleanup stopped because of large pools of molten metal.  It was never reported again.  The next day nothing.  It happens a lot when the news stumbles onto some truth they are not to report.

The same thing happened with the Pentagon.  The first reporter on the scene saw the same plane your cousin saw.  He saw the original damage up close before the wall collapsed.  Here is his first report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kvgreMeywI

[Lost Farmboy]

Matt you hit the nail on the smoking gun!  It was the large pools of molten iron weeks after that convinced me the buildings were not brought down by the planes.  Only thermite could do it.  The planes were a diversion from the truth.  The pools of molten iron convinced me to keep looking.

Well I must admit that it was TM7 that opened my eyes to the fact that we did not know the whole story and I have spent the last 6 years or so researching and investigating the happenings of 9-11. This has lead me to so many different credible testimonies and has open my eyes to  the larger picture and the NWO take over of the world. So when I learned of the pools weeks later I knew something was not right. I worked as an explosives engineer in Douglasville GA. for a couple of years at The Dynamite Man Inc. I have seen lots of buildings pulled and after revisiting the 9-11 videos it is right there in full color for anyone to see. (squibs) Also if you google 9-11 ground zero images you can find many with the perfect cuts that Scott mentioned way before the first torch hit the debris pile.


Matt

Matt this time you hit the nail on the head!  The NWO take over of the world.  The real terrorist are the leaders of the NWO. 

[billy_56081]

It is obvious to believe the conspiracy theories we are presented here a person must have either a lack of knowledge in the processes claimed in these theories. Your promotion of theories that are outside the realm of possibility does nothing but make this conspiracy theorizing look completely false. Maybe the folks coming out with these impossible theories are gatekeeping by putting out stories that do not hold up under even slight deductive reasoning. For folks who feel that these things need much investigation, you sure are being led down a false silly path. The only reason someone would keep promoting these impossible theories is they lack knowledge or are blinded by their preconceived ideas. 

[Lost Farmboy]

It is obvious to believe the conspiracy theories we are presented here a person must have either a lack of knowledge in the processes claimed in these theories. Your promotion of theories that are outside the realm of possibility does nothing but make this conspiracy theorizing look completely false. Maybe the folks coming out with these impossible theories are gatekeeping by putting out stories that do not hold up under even slight deductive reasoning. For folks who feel that these things need much investigation, you sure are being led down a false silly path. The only reason someone would keep promoting these impossible theories is they lack knowledge or are blinded by their preconceived ideas.

What is impossible?  Molten steel pouring down I beams is fact.  It was reported and recorded by firemen who were there.  The videos are still on youtube.  The clean up was stopped because of large pools of molten metal is also fact.  It was reported by all the big news networks that had people on the scene.  These are not wild conspiracy theories they are facts. 

You yourself said this is in the capabilities of thermite.  If thermite is impossible what is possible?

[billy_56081]

Lost farmboy obviously your reading comprehension is a little poor. I said controlled demolition is NOT within the realm of thermite. Again you are wanting to believe so much that you are believing false information. Please get educated on the capabilities of these products before you take this silliness as gospel. This whole thermite silliness was started by some dweeb who heard that within the debris of the WTC there was thermite dust found. Ya know what there is thermite dust found everywhere. Thermite is nothing but iron oxide aka RUST. Again lack of knowledge. Again as I have said before so you do not miss it again thermite CANNOT be used in controlled demolition. Please get some real knowledge before you speak on things like this or you are helping the gatekeepers. BTW thermite is an incendiary not and explosive. Maybe you all should study the difference and get back to me. Let's have us an intelligent and informed discussion not some silly not an argument about something being used beyond the capability of reality. What is being argued here is a person who claims that their AMC pacer goes 1000 miles per hour on premium gas. No need. For me to see this car driven to know what they are saying is wrong. Learning to eliminate the impossible makes debunking a lie easy. Try getting some real knowledge then come back and play.   

[Lost Farmboy]

Thermite is nothing but iron oxide aka RUST.

Wrong!  I'll say it again.  I believe your thermite recipe is missing something.

[Lost Farmboy]

A person doesn't need to know everything to know that some things are not possible. The issue is that the tinfoilers take everything that supports their agenda as gospel no matter how unrealistic it is. I can't say whether or not there were molten pools of metal at any time under the wreckage. What I can tell you is demolition of any of those buildings was within the capabilities of thermite or det cord. The problem is these theories that are being promoted are not within the capabilities of the products that were claimed to be used. Kinda like this I happen to know an AK47 round will not fully penetrate the frontal armour on an M1 Abrams tank, but I do not know every weapon that will. A little deductive reasoning goes a long ways, simple as that.

Did you write this?  Please explain reading comprehension.

[billy_56081]

Our mod or an admin obiously edited my post. Just goes to show you how far some will go to promote their agenda.

[Lost Farmboy]

Our mod or an admin obiously edited my post. Just goes to show you how far some will go to promote their agenda.

I don't believe that. 

[Lost Farmboy]

Firemen reported molten iron flowing down I beams like in a foundry. 

Three weeks after 911 the cleanup stopped because of large pools of molten iron at the base of all three buildings.  We know this is true because it was reported at the time by FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS AND NBC.

Please explain what could cause this if not thremite.

[billy_56081]

No need to explain the reality of whether there was pools of molten metal or not. As I said I eliminated the impossible now being that thermite demolition how about you explain the rest? Wow you are being gate keepered. There must be a plausible explanation out there you need to find it. So why this false flag story? What don't they want you to find out?   

[Lost Farmboy]

To be continued...

[Lost Farmboy]

No need to explain the reality of whether there was pools of molten metal or not.


You do not have to explain the pools of molten metal because it does not fit your agenda.  The pools of molten metal are the most important clue to the truth.  By making this statement you prove that you are doing the very thing you accuse me and other truthers of,  you only look for the evidence that supports your agenda.  You also admit that you do not do as I do and look at all the evidence.  Multiple firemen on the scene reported molten metal flowing down I beams like a foundry.  It is an undeniable fact.  Three weeks after 911 the cleanup was stopped because of large pools of molten metal.  This is also an undeniable fact, because it was reported by every major news network.

As I said I eliminated the impossible now being that thermite demolition how about you explain the rest?

What caused the iron flowing like in a foundry and the large pools of molten iron.  You are right about eliminating the impossible.  So we have to eliminate the jets and the jet fuel, because no jets flew into building 7.  So how about thermite?

To call thermite iron oxide or rust is like calling water oxygen.  Take a match to water and then to oxygen.  You get a very different reaction.  Add hydrogen to oxygen and it changes everything, melting points, reaction to fire and the temperature that it liquifies.  The same thing happens when you add the second component to thermite.  It changes everything.  Since you do not know what thermite is, I say you are not qualified to eliminate it.  So for now we have to leave thermite demolition on the table.

Wow you are being gate keepered.

Gate keepers are for the sheepeople.  By now you should know I am not part of the heard.

There must be a plausible explanation out there you need to find it.

I did.

So why this false flag story?

It's the truth.

What don't they want you to find out?

That is the wrong question.

[billy_56081]

TM do you have any experience or training with thermite and explosives? Or are you passing on information you have read or been told? You folks need to do deductive reasoning. Eliminate the impossible that is all I have done.

[Lost Farmboy]

Billy you don't even know what thermite is.  How can you eliminate it?

[billy_56081]

Lost why are you so defensive about this issue that you have to make up lies? I thought the tinfoilers were known as truthers. I am putting forward the truth about a theory and you folks seem to fear it. 

[Lost Farmboy]

Lost why are you so defensive about this issue that you have to make up lies? I thought the tinfoilers were known as truthers. I am putting forward the truth about a theory and you folks seem to fear it.

It is a matter of life and death for over 6 billion people.  You believe you are putting out the truth.  You are simply wrong.  You have done absolutely no research because you believe it is not necessary.

[billy_56081]

Lost please tell me how a controlled demolition could be done with thermite?

[Lost Farmboy]

Lost please tell me how a controlled demolition could be done with thermite?

Do some research and find out what thermite is.  How it melts steel.  From your post it is obvious you do not know.  TM7 gave you the links, read them.