Author Topic: Ariz. seeks online donations to build border fence (Read 1494 times)

Old Fart · « **on:** May 09, 2011, 05:49:39 AM »

PHOENIX – Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it's necessary or not.

They've got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year.

Gov. Jan Brewer recently signed a bill that sets the state on a course that begins with launching a website to raise money for the work, said state Sen. Steve Smith, the bill's sponsor.

"We're going to build this site as fast as we can, and promote it, and market the heck out of it," said Smith, a first-term Republican senator from Maricopa.

Entire article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_border_fence_donations

Hooker · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2011, 08:27:48 AM »

Sounds like a worth while endeavor I wonder where their web site is.
Of course if we would quit giving all that money to places like Pakistan we could build that fence PDQ

Pat

powderman · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2011, 02:08:32 PM »

Wish I had money to send them. it's good to see SOMEBODY making an attempt to defend America from these invaders. GOOOOOO AZ. POWDERMAN.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2011, 03:41:54 PM »

Be nice to have a link.

wreckhog · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2011, 04:08:19 PM »

Why would you need cooperation fron landowners? Sounds like eminent domain.

Hooker · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2011, 04:33:03 PM »

Quote from: wreckhog on May 09, 2011, 04:08:19 PM

Why would you need cooperation fron landowners? Sounds like eminent domain.

Seems to me that our national border would be just that, regardless of who held the deed to the actual property up to it.
Kind of like the street in front of my house my abstract and deed show I own to the center of the road way yet it is a public right of way.
But I have noticed that some states have some strange property access laws.
Putting up a fence should only enhance the property , but I'm betting that property owners along the border are only seeing dollar signs.

Pat

guzzijohn · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2011, 03:45:47 AM »

Quote from Hooker:

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I'm betting that property owners along the border are only seeing dollar signs.

That would surprise me. I think the land owners will welcome this and be more than happy to cooperate. After all they are at the front line and some have been killed. I am just concerned that this is another "feel good" effort that will not really solve a thing.
GuzziJohn

guzzijohn · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2011, 03:49:12 AM »

Quote from Powderman:

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Wish I had money to send them. it's good to see SOMEBODY making an attempt to defend America from these invaders. GOOOOOO AZ. POWDERMAN.

Come on PW, now you have a chance to put your money where your mouth has been but you won't. I cannot believe that you cannot come up with $20, sell a gun or something. Guess you want to leave it to us taxpayers and not cut the budget.

GuzziJohn

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2011, 04:37:26 AM »

I've always thought of the Escort as being one of the best cars ever made. Very durable, reliable and economical given reports by friends and acquaintances who own them. And lots of room in the wagon configuration for hauling stuff, considering its a small car. Still see lots of them on the road. I have rented them during winter in the snowy north and they handled very well.

The new Focus that I believe replaces it is really nice. I've rented them and like it a lot. Good handling, comfortable, good design. Haven't tried the wagon, but I have looked at them and they are nice too.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2011, 04:46:18 AM »

^Conan what does that post have to do with a border fence?

Old Fart · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2011, 05:32:00 AM »

Sounds like a thread on Ford's economy class vehecles might be in order.

Let's try and keep on topic please.

powderman · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2011, 09:43:16 AM »

guzzi. It appears that you are against building the fence to try and deter the criminals?? Right, or wrong?? POWDERMAN.

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2011, 10:23:08 AM »

I don't know how it got in this thread. I meant to post it in a thread where it was relevant.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2011, 10:30:23 AM »

If millions of Americans donated $20 for the fence, and they built a big section, maybe the Feds would get the message. If say 20 million conservatives donated $20, that is $400 million. Surely that could get a lot of fence installed, especially in the worse areas.

powderman · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2011, 12:59:01 PM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on May 10, 2011, 10:30:23 AM

If millions of Americans donated $20 for the fence, and they built a big section, maybe the Feds would get the message. If say 20 million conservatives donated $20, that is $400 million. Surely that could get a lot of fence installed, especially in the worse areas.

Good idea, and sheriff Joe could use the residents of his hotels to do the work. Anybody remember the chain gangs from years past?? POWDERMAN.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2011, 12:59:16 PM »

Quote from Powderman:

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guzzi. It appears that you are against building the fence to try and deter the criminals?? Right, or wrong?? POWDERMAN.

I would be for it if I thought it would do any good but I do not think it will, there will always be other ways in, just a waste of money and resources. Trying to ban illegals is like trying to ban guns, they are just too engrained into our society and there are to many of them. Powderman, you are still saying that you are not willing to sacrifice for your pet project?
GuzziJohn

powderman · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2011, 02:58:58 PM »

guzzi. I could send a few bucks but I've gotten used to eating every day. With our income cut in 1/2 there is never any xtra. I'd rather see a wall built but a fence would be a start. I hope they electrify it. POWDERMAN.

jimster · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2011, 03:53:15 PM »

If the United States of America wanted to secure it's borders you would not need a fence, or wall, or anything else.

It's a simple as that. We all know it, if you don't know it, think about it for a minute, you will realize it.

There are reasons the borders are open, and it has nothing to do with not having the "power" to keep people out.
Until such time as our government decides to secure the borders, anything we do is a waste of money and just for show.

We have lost our sovereignty, and that is a direct violation of all of our rights, and is an embarrassment to any clear thinking American.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #18 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:01:39 AM »

Eisenhower used busses and boats, rounded up 2,000,000 illegals in the 1950's and sent them 200 miles inside Mexico. Left them. Problem solved for a few years.

powderman · « **Reply #19 on:** May 17, 2011, 02:19:09 PM »

DIXIE DUDE. No reason it couldn't be done again. For those of you that say it wouldn't work, I say, start it with one busload, and repeat as necessary. The cost would still be cheaper than giving free education, free medical care, housing, food stamps, aid, and hospitol care. Round em up, SHIP EM OUT, dump em on mexicos Southern border. POWDERMAN.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 17, 2011, 02:26:49 PM »

Quote from: jimster on May 10, 2011, 03:53:15 PM

.......There are reasons the borders are open, and it has nothing to do with not having the "power" to keep people out. ......

It's called lettuce & tomato on my hamburger, please.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 17, 2011, 03:34:08 PM »

I think captured illegal aliens should supply 100% of labor used to build the fence. After all they came here to work. Oh, I mean work for free before being deported.

powderman · « **Reply #22 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:01:30 PM »

Quote from: Lost Farmboy on May 17, 2011, 03:34:08 PM

I think captured illegal aliens should supply 100% of labor used to build the fence. After all they came here to work. Oh, I mean work for free before being deported.

YEP, agreed. POWDERMAN.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2011, 03:53:25 AM »

Illegal immigration is not going to be reduced as long as it is perceived (real or not) that illegals are a benefit as cheap employees. With coorperate and large family farms, construction, factories, etc. hiring these people and putting pressure on politicians and law enforcement to look the other way they are not going to go away. What is ironic is all the screaming from conservatives about the illegal immigration problem but republican employers (since more tend to be republicans and conservatives) are probably the worst offenders.
GuzziJohn

beerbelly · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:05:31 AM »

Anyone have a link to their web site? I would like to make a small donation. Don't have much ,but will do what I can.

crab cake · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:11:30 AM »

They need a commercial partner. Wouldn't it be great to hear:
"Welcome to Taco Bell, 5% of your purchase goes to the border fence"

lakota · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:18:43 AM »

I like the fence idea but they lost me with the asking for donations to build it part. I will not donate one red cent to any government local state or federal. I am already coerced into making weekly "donations" to father government. They want to build a fence? Take my donation out of my weekly mandatory tithe to lord government.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:24:50 AM »

Maybe they can get Donald Trump to help build it. I like what one Republican cantidate said. He wants high walls with wide gates. He suggested we have all illegals register with immigration, have them pass a health and background check for criminal record from their country of origin, then give them a green card to work here. If they can't find a job, are criminals, or unhealthy, then they are rounded up sent home. This would get a handle on things. Also, no anchor babies for anyone anymore.

ratdog · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:26:14 AM »

if they are going to build a fence build one like they have between north and south korea.

powderman · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:44:05 AM »

GOOOOOOOO AZ. Good to have somebody stand up for America, the obamination sure won't. POWDERMAN.