African American President brings High Culture to the White House

[Junior1942]

Hey Junior:

Why don't you tell us what is the difference between  "Black values" and "White values"?

Thanks, but I don't need a thesis--read Michelle's.  But the values are exactly the same since you asked.  Why don't you tell us why you forment racial hatred?  Trying to have your own Beer Hall Putsch?

[wreckhog]

Wrong about the button and probably wrong on most things.

--I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die,".Guess who?___________

Easy; that would be Johnny C., doing Folsom Prison Blues.

Here's some good work by Johnny, covering a Nine Inch Nails tune. Well, it used to belong to Trent of NIN; now it's Johnny's song, according to Trent -

So were the other 2 - imagine that. And Bush was there when he was honored- imagine that.
Fox insults it's viewers thinking they are too stupid to recall Fox's hypocrisies.

[lgm270]

Hey Junior:

Why don't you tell us what is the difference between  "Black values" and "White values"?

Thanks, but I don't need a thesis--read Michelle's.  But the values are exactly the same since you asked.  Why don't you tell us why you forment racial hatred?  Trying to have your own Beer Hall Putsch?

Hey Junior:

Michelle Obama says there are separate and distinct white and black cultures, as follows:

"In defining the concept of identification or the ability to identify with the black community, I based my definition on the premise that there is a distinctive black culture very different from white culture."

Please tell us how black culture is "very different" from white culture.

[Junior1942]

.....Please tell us how black culture is "very different" from white culture.

Since you seem to find nothing good about black culture you can much better tell us why it's "very different" from white culture.  All you have to do is explain why you hate it so much.

[briarpatch]

This is not about Michelle. We give her, her due. She was either smart enough to put the thesis together or find someone to do it.
I doubt anyone at Princeton or anywhere else has read, will read or can read it.
A grade on it, be damned.
No supporter of this admin on here will read it. Not one!
The truth is, the clowns supporters ideology gets in the way. In simple words. ( their ox is being gored)
The supporters seek No work, cant work, want work. They live the life of the grasshopper. The ants owe them a living. They want to lay in  the bars, sway to the music, listen to the hoods sing, praise a whole bar full of lazy slugs that have a dozen kids and aint seen one in years. All have become wards of State.
What we have at the top has promised this. he is the supporters man. he is their ideology.

[lgm270]

.....Please tell us how black culture is "very different" from white culture.

Since you seem to find nothing good about black culture you can much better tell us why it's "very different" from white culture.  All you have to do is explain why you hate it so much.

Hey Junior:

In Dreams From My Father at page 141, Barack Obama tells how he was hired by a  New York Jew to be a "community organizer" because he (Obama) was black.  Obama states:

"He ordered more hot water and told  me about himself.  He was Jewish, in his late thirties, had been reared in New York.  He had stated organizing in the sixties with the student protests, and ended up staying with it for fifteen years.  Farmers in Nebraska.  Blacks in Philadelphia.  Mexicans in Chicago.  Now he was trying to pull urban blacks and suburban whites together around a plan to save manufacturing jobs in metropolitan Chicago. He needed somebody to work with him, he said. Somebody black."

This kind of hiring, based on skin color,  is a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and many other civil rights laws.  Do you believe that Jews and blacks have the right to  violate the '64 Civil Rights Acts and discriminate against people outside their race?

[Junior1942]

......Do you believe that Jews and blacks have the right to  violate the '64 Civil Rights Acts and discriminate against people outside their race?

Hey David:

Glad you added "Jews" to your sentence. 

[lgm270]

......Do you believe that Jews and blacks have the right to  violate the '64 Civil Rights Acts and discriminate against people outside their race?

Hey David:

Glad you added "Jews" to your sentence.

Hey Junior: You cut and run...like I knew you would.  Answer the question.  Do "minorities" have a right to violate civil rights laws for which white people would be prosecuted?   Do you support one set of laws for "minorities" and another set of laws for whites?

[wreckhog]

This is not about Michelle. We give her, her due. She was either smart enough to put the thesis together or find someone to do it.
I doubt anyone at Princeton or anywhere else has read, will read or can read it.
A grade on it, be damned.
No supporter of this admin on here will read it. Not one!
The truth is, their ideology gets in the way. In simple words. ( their ox is being gored)
No work, cant work, want work. The life of the grasshopper. The ants owe me a living. I want to lay in  the bars, sway to the music, listen to the niggas sing, praise a whole bar full of lazy slugs that have a dozen kids and aint seen one in years. All have become wards of State.
What we have at the top has promised this. he is your man. your it. your way. he is your ideology.

Odd. The Obamas are known for their work ethic. Wake up at 4. Hit the gym. Go to work.

[nw_hunter]

Knock it off with all Racist and Inflammatory remarks or this one is over!!

[mirage1988]

Bummer-
I read all three pages without one mention of larry sinclair. I guess he was just a one-nighter for president 'o'.

[yellowtail3]

The unseemly obsession with Michelle Obama and how to criticize her, kind of reminds me of the wackjob leftists who tried to make Laura Bush out to be a killer for an auto accident she had when she was a youngster. They focused on her, because of their hatred for President Bush

Now we're seeing the same moral lever from right-wingnuts.

I guess this is the rightwing/wackjob Klan version of that narrative, pioneered by MoveOn.org, or something like that...

[lgm270]

The unseemly obsession with Michelle Obama and how to criticize her, kind of reminds me of the wackjob leftists who tried to make Laura Bush out to be a killer for an auto accident she had when she was a youngster. They focused on her, because of their hatred for President Bush

Now we're seeing the same moral lever from right-wingnuts.

I guess this is the rightwing/wackjob Klan version of that narrative, pioneered by MoveOn.org, or something like that...

Michelle Obama is an openly  white hating racist, as expressed in her own writings and statements.  There is nothing unseemly about criticizing this affirmative action ward of the state who lives like royalty  off our tax dollars while we struggle to work and pay taxes, and then denounces us as racists, fascists, blah, blah, blah.   

You can  believe in a Gag Rule that pampered  blacks can't be criticized if you want to,  but you don't speak for anyone but yourself, and not very skillfully at that.   

If whites can be blamed for slavery that ended before we were born, then pampered affirmative action Negros can be criticized for what they write and say and do while they're living off our tax dollars.

[yellowtail3]

You can  believe in a Gag Rule that pampered  blacks can't be criticized if you want to

gag rule?

but you don't speak for anyone but yourself, and not very skillfully at that

what - is my spelling not good enough? Need to work on my diction a little bit? Or learn to sing in tune with the echo-chamber, maybe?

If whites can be blamed for slavery that ended before we were born, then pampered affirmative action Negros can be criticized for what they write and say and do while they're living off our tax dollars.

Negros - how quaint! Clever, even!

[wreckhog]

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

I started reading it. First thought was, holy crap, it has been a while since I saw anything that came from a typewriter. Second thought is, this is a school project. Nothing spectacular, nothing controversial, no glaring abundance of grammar errors, some missing punctuation, no hate, more of a Stranger in Strange Land feel. And in the context of this thread, with participants such as lgm, her words on being perceived as black first, however old they are, still ring true. I would not pay money to read it, but it certainly seems to be acceptable work to hand in to sociology class. Any Princeton grads here, what did you produce?

[mirage1988]

Maybe 'o' should re-invite this one of his former "entertainers" back to the white house for another night of smoking crack and man-love- dispute this one yellowtail!  its probably racism because its white-on- black though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0

[mirage1988]

Nice response yellowtail- you were here for 5 minutes -just long enough to watch the video, no comment about obamas boyfriend? 

[ironglow]

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

I started reading it. First thought was, holy crap, it has been a while since I saw anything that came from a typewriter. Second thought is, this is a school project. Nothing spectacular, nothing controversial, no glaring abundance of grammar errors, some missing punctuation, no hate, more of a Stranger in Strange Land feel. And in the context of this thread, with participants such as lgm, her words on being perceived as black first, however old they are, still ring true. I would not pay money to read it, but it certainly seems to be acceptable work to hand in to sociology class. Any Princeton grads here, what did you produce?

  Wreckhog;
  Thank you for finding the thesis which I could not with a simple, cursory search.  I am somewhat mystified that you were not surprised by the content and character of the missive.
  First; I would like to point out that I don't like the racial turn this thread seems to be working toward. In fact you may recall that in earlier posts, I have heartily backed such people a Col Allen West and Herman Cain toward any post they wish in our government.
     My disenchantment with both Obamas is not color, but individual attitudes.  Anybody elected to serve the American people should be ready to serve all the people, not simply a personally preferred segment.  ..And speaking of segmentation, the first couple are doing their country a disservice when they do their best to segregate the people.
      Did you read the thesis ?  Did you miss the manner in which the author was consumed with race and her efforts to divide rather than unite ?
    For those of us who have long ago moved beyond dividing Americans by race, ethnicity and national origin, the whole article smacks of racism.  Surely her endorsement of the sep/plur position, would put her at odds with Dr King's stated aspirations.
        Let's look at a couple statements made by her and imagine they were made by Laura Bush for instance (I'll replace the word "black" with the word "white")..let us see how ghe same statements would set with you, the public and the general media !

Taken from page #2 of her thesis;
 
  A)   " I am obligated to the white community and will use all my present and future resources to bvenefit this community first and foremost".
 
  B)  " I will always be white first and a student second" !

  These kind of statements give much insight into the character of the writer and personally, I don't believe such a bigoted attitude in ANY first lady (and by nature imposed upon the president) would be a worthy thing.

   Suggestion for all:
     Read through any portion of her thesis replacing the word "black" with the word "white"...and see if you would want this type attitude to be part of ANY first lady.. 

  Here again, the thesis..  http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

[DDZ]

Maybe 'o' should re-invite this one of his former "entertainers" back to the white house for another night of smoking crack and man-love- dispute this one yellowtail!  its probably racism because its white-on- black though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0

Now come on Mirage, the left has been working very hard at keeping Larry swept under the carpet, and you go and post the video of Larry and the O's drug and sex tales, that they hate to see, and hear. You might get called a right- wingnut for doing that. Or even worse , a racist.
We are just supposed to keep our mouth shut, and be happy that a couple of communists are in the White House.

[wreckhog]

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

I started reading it. First thought was, holy crap, it has been a while since I saw anything that came from a typewriter. Second thought is, this is a school project. Nothing spectacular, nothing controversial, no glaring abundance of grammar errors, some missing punctuation, no hate, more of a Stranger in Strange Land feel. And in the context of this thread, with participants such as lgm, her words on being perceived as black first, however old they are, still ring true. I would not pay money to read it, but it certainly seems to be acceptable work to hand in to sociology class. Any Princeton grads here, what did you produce?

  Wreckhog;
  Thank you for finding the thesis which I could not with a simple, cursory search.  I am somewhat mystified that you were not surprised by the content and character of the missive.
  First; I would like to point out that I don't like the racial turn this thread seems to be working toward. In fact you may recall that in earlier posts, I have heartily backed such people a Col Allen West and Herman Cain toward any post they wish in our government.
     My disenchantment with both Obamas is not color, but individual attitudes.  Anybody elected to serve the American people should be ready to serve all the people, not simply a personally preferred segment.  ..And speaking of segmentation, the first couple are doing their country a disservice when they do their best to segregate the people.
      Did you read the thesis ?  Did you miss the manner in which the author was consumed with race and her efforts to divide rather than unite ?
    For those of us who have long ago moved beyond dividing Americans by race, ethnicity and national origin, the whole article smacks of racism.  Surely her endorsement of the sep/plur position, would put her at odds with Dr King's stated aspirations.
        Let's look at a couple statements made by her and imagine they were made by Laura Bush for instance (I'll replace the word "black" with the word "white")..let us see how ghe same statements would set with you, the public and the general media !

Taken from page #2 of her thesis;
 
  A)   " I am obligated to the white community and will use all my present and future resources to bvenefit this community first and foremost".
 
  B)  " I will always be white first and a student second" !

  These kind of statements give much insight into the character of the writer and personally, I don't believe such a bigoted attitude in ANY first lady (and by nature imposed upon the president) would be a worthy thing.

   Suggestion for all:
     Read through any portion of her thesis replacing the word "black" with the word "white"...and see if you would want this type attitude to be part of ANY first lady.. 

  Here again, the thesis..  http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

Substitute Christian for black.

[yellowtail3]

Nice response yellowtail- you were here for 5 minutes -just long enough to watch the video, no comment about obamas boyfriend?

I'd not heard of this before. It sounds of bogus to me. Does that count as a defense?

A quick bit of googlin' indicates that this guy is bogus. A criminal. Flunked polygraph. Hasn't produced. Looks like an old story from the 2008 primary. Was Hillary Clinton the author of it?

Here's a quick blurb on this, from a source you'll probably approve of:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57248

Sounds like I was just as well off to have missed the details on this. Looking at it now... I vaguely recall something about this from that time, but it didn't seem credible enough to warrant much attention. Still doesn't.

[billy_56081]

yellow this video and several others like it featuring this guy have been out there for years.

[sidewinder319]

Most unfortunate thing in all this will be Americans will think color before voting.  We had arrived at a point where color was becoming meaningless in elections.  Those who are unable to defend the lack of promised progress by this president resorts to a defense based on racism. Americans see this as a restriction of freedom of speech. This will be hard for future minority candidates to over come.

[powderman]

BILLY. The libbys tend to shy away from the truth, spoils their whole day. When they know the truth it scares them and they can't whine about anything. Can't have that now can we?? Wouldn't be right to deprive them of the only thing they have going for them. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

BILLY. The libbys tend to shy away from the truth, spoils their whole day. When they know the truth it scares them and they can't whine about anything. Can't have that now can we?? Wouldn't be right to deprive them of the only thing they have going for them. POWDERMAN. 

Powderman - is it your position that this Sinclair character was telling the truth? If yes... what do you base that opinion on?

[ironglow]

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

I started reading it. First thought was, holy crap, it has been a while since I saw anything that came from a typewriter. Second thought is, this is a school project. Nothing spectacular, nothing controversial, no glaring abundance of grammar errors, some missing punctuation, no hate, more of a Stranger in Strange Land feel. And in the context of this thread, with participants such as lgm, her words on being perceived as black first, however old they are, still ring true. I would not pay money to read it, but it certainly seems to be acceptable work to hand in to sociology class. Any Princeton grads here, what did you produce?

  Wreckhog;
  Thank you for finding the thesis which I could not with a simple, cursory search.  I am somewhat mystified that you were not surprised by the content and character of the missive.
  First; I would like to point out that I don't like the racial turn this thread seems to be working toward. In fact you may recall that in earlier posts, I have heartily backed such people a Col Allen West and Herman Cain toward any post they wish in our government.
     My disenchantment with both Obamas is not color, but individual attitudes.  Anybody elected to serve the American people should be ready to serve all the people, not simply a personally preferred segment.  ..And speaking of segmentation, the first couple are doing their country a disservice when they do their best to segregate the people.
      Did you read the thesis ?  Did you miss the manner in which the author was consumed with race and her efforts to divide rather than unite ?
    For those of us who have long ago moved beyond dividing Americans by race, ethnicity and national origin, the whole article smacks of racism.  Surely her endorsement of the sep/plur position, would put her at odds with Dr King's stated aspirations.
        Let's look at a couple statements made by her and imagine they were made by Laura Bush for instance (I'll replace the word "black" with the word "white")..let us see how ghe same statements would set with you, the public and the general media !

Taken from page #2 of her thesis;
 
  A)   " I am obligated to the white community and will use all my present and future resources to bvenefit this community first and foremost".
 
  B)  " I will always be white first and a student second" !

  These kind of statements give much insight into the character of the writer and personally, I don't believe such a bigoted attitude in ANY first lady (and by nature imposed upon the president) would be a worthy thing.

   Suggestion for all:
     Read through any portion of her thesis replacing the word "black" with the word "white"...and see if you would want this type attitude to be part of ANY first lady.. 

  Here again, the thesis..  http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

Substitute Christian for black.

  Wreckhog;
  The problem with your premise is that nobody has promulgated such an idea.  No president (or first lady) in recent history has indicated they would work for Christian interests ahead of all others.  This, in spite of the fact that this nation was founded upon Christian values and principles.
  If any first family members ever claimed they would represent Christians or any other group in a preferential manner; they should be brought up short...as in the above case !
  Guys; I have just derailed Wreckhog's attempt at "deflection"...any fair minded person can read any part of her thesis, substituting white for black.  If do,you will gain insight concerning where she is coming from and what drives her, and thus to a point..our prez.

[billy_56081]

BILLY. The libbys tend to shy away from the truth, spoils their whole day. When they know the truth it scares them and they can't whine about anything. Can't have that now can we?? Wouldn't be right to deprive them of the only thing they have going for them. POWDERMAN. 

Powderman - is it your position that this Sinclair character is telling the truth? If yes... what do you base that opinion on?

Yellow on what do you base your opinion on that Larry is lying? Why no lawsuit for defamation?

[yellowtail3]

Yellow on what do you base your opinion on that Larry is lying?

I did a little searching, and don't see any indications that there is anything to the story. Apparently the guy took a couple polygraphs, and they indicated he was lying. NRO has nothing to say about it. It seems to be confined to the narrow Obama haters, who aren't a bit credible. Normal conservatives have dismissed it as bogus. I think Sinclair is a con man, and the serious Obama haters trot him out because he fits their agenda. Everyone else seems to have dismissed him.

but then I just know what I read on the intertoobs

[wreckhog]

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

I started reading it. First thought was, holy crap, it has been a while since I saw anything that came from a typewriter. Second thought is, this is a school project. Nothing spectacular, nothing controversial, no glaring abundance of grammar errors, some missing punctuation, no hate, more of a Stranger in Strange Land feel. And in the context of this thread, with participants such as lgm, her words on being perceived as black first, however old they are, still ring true. I would not pay money to read it, but it certainly seems to be acceptable work to hand in to sociology class. Any Princeton grads here, what did you produce?

  Wreckhog;
  Thank you for finding the thesis which I could not with a simple, cursory search.  I am somewhat mystified that you were not surprised by the content and character of the missive.
  First; I would like to point out that I don't like the racial turn this thread seems to be working toward. In fact you may recall that in earlier posts, I have heartily backed such people a Col Allen West and Herman Cain toward any post they wish in our government.
     My disenchantment with both Obamas is not color, but individual attitudes.  Anybody elected to serve the American people should be ready to serve all the people, not simply a personally preferred segment.  ..And speaking of segmentation, the first couple are doing their country a disservice when they do their best to segregate the people.
      Did you read the thesis ?  Did you miss the manner in which the author was consumed with race and her efforts to divide rather than unite ?
    For those of us who have long ago moved beyond dividing Americans by race, ethnicity and national origin, the whole article smacks of racism.  Surely her endorsement of the sep/plur position, would put her at odds with Dr King's stated aspirations.
        Let's look at a couple statements made by her and imagine they were made by Laura Bush for instance (I'll replace the word "black" with the word "white")..let us see how ghe same statements would set with you, the public and the general media !

Taken from page #2 of her thesis;
 
  A)   " I am obligated to the white community and will use all my present and future resources to bvenefit this community first and foremost".
 
  B)  " I will always be white first and a student second" !

  These kind of statements give much insight into the character of the writer and personally, I don't believe such a bigoted attitude in ANY first lady (and by nature imposed upon the president) would be a worthy thing.

   Suggestion for all:
     Read through any portion of her thesis replacing the word "black" with the word "white"...and see if you would want this type attitude to be part of ANY first lady.. 

  Here again, the thesis..  http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

Substitute Christian for black.

  Wreckhog;
  The problem with your premise is that nobody has promulgated such an idea.  No president (or first lady) in recent history has indicated they would work for Christian interests ahead of all others.  This, in spite of the fact that this nation was founded upon Christian values and principles.
  If any first family members ever claimed they would represent Christians or any other group in a preferential manner; they should be brought up short...as in the above case !
  Guys; I have just derailed Wreckhog's attempt at "deflection"...any fair minded person can read any part of her thesis, substituting white for black.  If do,you will gain insight concerning where she is coming from and what drives her, and thus to a point..our prez.

She is not Prez and she NEVER said that she would put black interests ahead of ALL OTHERS. Nice strawman.

[billy_56081]

Actually yellow, the polygraphs did not say he was lying. So why is there no lawsuit of if allowable in his state criminal charges? BTW old Larry looks alot like the pic on your profile.