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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2011, 04:37:53 PM »
To be honest, I'm not THAT crazy about Ruger handguns, except for two.  The single six, and the Blackhawk 44 mag.  Tough as nails, and will last several lifetimes.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2011, 05:49:11 PM »
I have a couple single sixes they will last much longer than I will I also  have an H&R 22lr

I bought a Heritage that was used and reasonable I wanted it for a lawn mower gun (snakes you know) it would misfire at least 2 to 3 rounds out of each cylinder. I took it to good local gun smiths two would not touch it, one said I will get it working and get rid of it. I called the factory this was the deal sealer they asked how old it was I could not answer so they asked model number and if it was over (I dont remember exact) years old like 5 they would not service it. At that point I had no use for it I sold it to a guy as-is and told him the problem

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2011, 06:10:15 PM »
I have the single six, got it about 72. No telling how many 22lr and 22mags that thing has fired. Might be in the billions or trillions.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :) :) ;) ;D :o :o ::) ::)I have Used the mag cylinder and lr cylinder a lot. Have taken a few hogs with the mag cylinder.
It would be my choise.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2011, 09:35:14 AM »
The mostly cheap SA RF's I'd had became a thing of my youth when I got my first Ruger Old Model Bearcats, Super Bearcats, Single Sixes and Colt New Frontiers in the 60's and early 70's, and I've never felt a need to use anything else since.  Each of those I still had in the early 90's I had custom holsters made for by various makers, and custom grips made by David Wayland from various exotic woods and stag.   Needs change and most are gone now, but I still have my OM Super Bearcat (w/Koa) and  OM Single Six 22MAG (w/stag) I bought in the early 70's.   Can't even venture a guess how many rounds have been fired in this Super Bearcat, but as a favorite it rode in a back pocket most of the substantial time I spent in the field for the first 20 odd years, and in a holster since.    Certainly not the ridiculously laughable billions or trillions though.   :o  ???  ::)   

I have the single six, got it about 72. No telling how many 22lr and 22mags that thing has fired. Might be in the billions or trillions. I have Used the mag cylinder and lr cylinder a lot. Have taken a few hogs with the mag cylinder.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2011, 08:03:20 PM »
Come to think of it ladobe that is a laughable low number. It must be in 100 of billions or 100 of trillions.  ;) ;) ;) ;) :D ;D :o 8) ::) ??? :) :D ;D :( :o ::) ::) ::) :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) :'( :'( :P ::) ???

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2011, 09:24:01 PM »
briarpatch, you obviously don't have a clue what the number of rounds is that you would have had to shoot in your revolver every single day since 1972 (39 years) to have even fired 1 million in it, let alone billions or trillions.   Maybe laughable was a poor word choice... total BS, yep, that's it.   
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2011, 12:51:09 AM »
When the time came for me to add a 22 rim fire revolver to my collection it was a Ruger Single Six Convertible.  There was nothing to think about or consider.  My only regret...I didnt hold out for a Stainless Steal one.  I have shot the dawg crap out of it since 1995 (6-12 bricks annually) and aint had a hick up one.  Out of the 30 or so guns I have...it will be the last one that leaves my collection!

So get what you want, I am just telling you what I got after caressing and fondling more than a few before buying.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2011, 03:14:35 AM »
Ladobe, where is the humor? Did somebody lick the red off your candy.
For you I will put it in terms you can deal with: I have probably shot as many as most on here in their beloved 22's. A realistic # would be around 20,000 30,000 rounds easy. Remember I have had the gun since 72. Brother it gets used. Come to think of it I might have put a billion bricks through it. ;)  ;) ;) ;D ;D
In a long ago college coarse I took advanced math, I can deal with the numbers. Oh yea made the Deans list.
Sorry, for the misinformation I will try to keep it some what believable as humor is not well understood sometimes, even though that makes it hard on us liars.  ;)

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2011, 04:38:38 AM »
Briar, I really liked it (goes along with," in the 367yrs. we've been married I've found my wife tends to exaggerate"). Maybe a 'smiley' or 'wink'  ;) too?........
What I want to know is, if the theory of relativity is real what is the relativity of the relativity of the theory?
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2011, 04:44:19 AM »
Guys I'm far from a math whizz and I freely admit to spending the last ten minutes figuring this out. I'm not gonna call any names.... BUT things don't add up. So here goes...

Just for the sake of argument let's say fourty years of shooting and one billion rounds fired.

40 hrs is 14,600 days. One billion is higher them my calc will go so I used 999,999,999. That equates to 68,493 + rounds a day fired thru your Ruger single six.

AND further examination. That's 137  Bricks a bay at a cost of say 20$ ea cost you $3424.00.  Now back in '72 the cost wasn't 10$ a brick so that's a bit over $1700 a day but $1700 a day in '72 was BIG dollars. Conservatively (20 a brick as average) that's a total cost to you of $29,200,00.

Unless my numbers are wrong.....WOW that's big $$ and allot of shooting !!!!! ;) ;) Just sayin' ;)

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2011, 05:18:57 AM »
40 hrs is 14,600 days.

Aw cummon Brie!  Anyone can make a mistake!   ;D

'cept me of course...  :-\  my mistakes are called malpractice!   ::)

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2011, 06:33:03 AM »
Work on that a little CWlongshot but you are getting there. Use the exponent on that calculator and it will be able to handle the big numbers.  ;) ;D Hurry and get that thing worked on before ladobe sees it. He'll throw bs's all over it.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2011, 07:14:19 AM »
Back on topic. The single six is built like a tank. (that is an analogy)  ::)I have not had any problems with mine except the shroud screw coming lose. Lock-tight fixed that.
My cousin bought his a few weeks before I got mine, both are the old 3 screws. I want even attempt to tell how good we got with those things. At least to us.
One thing we would do is go shoot at the county dump. They were filling in a hollow or valley so to speak. This is in the mountains of Western North Carolina. We could shoot a far distance across the dump and did a lot.
We would fill tow sacks or burlap bags with small jars like mustard jars and such and take them to the wide river behind his mother in laws house.
It was fast and had some good rapids with big rocks. We would take turns and go up the river 50 yards or so and throw in six jars. One would stand at the rapids and when the jars got in the big rocks and rapids we would start shooting until we missed then we would change. We had to start taking turns. Even though they were moving pretty fast and bouncing we could hit them. I bet we threw in 30,000 semi truck loads of small jars to shoot.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D :D 8)
To the purist: when the glass would break in the fast rocky river by the time the glass had worked its way a 100 yards down the river it would be as smooth as a small stone with no sharp edges. Most of it was ground up in the deep holes of the rapids.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2011, 11:08:50 AM »
You reap what you sow pard.   A flat statement that is made without indication of any kind that it was made in jest is just that, a flat statement.     And one like this one as presented makes it hard to take anything a person says seriously.      So please help those of use who don't know you out... when in jest indicate so.   ;)

Like you I've had my current Super Bearcat (and Single Six 22MAG) since about 1972, used and shot the SB a lot most of the time since for both plinking and hunting, quite often shooting a brick or more at a time when plinking with it.    Bottom line is these revolvers stand up very well to heavy and constant use with very little care, and even those with non adjustable sights will shoot "where you point them" with the constant use.   Speaks highly of how well these old Rugers were made that can always be counted on to be reliable.

All the Colt's are long gone and I'm down to only 3 old model Rugers left now with health and handicap issues keeping me out of the killing fields.   Poor picture but all I have of them together.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2011, 02:08:58 PM »
That is a fine hand full of 22's ladobe. Sorry to hear your health keeps you from using them as much as you would like.
I love to shoot about any gun but the 22 is a real pleasure to take to the field or just set on the porch and plink with.
The single six or bearcat is a good gun to teach a young shooter the proper way to shoot a gun. I just feel starting out they are the safest way to go. That may not be true for everyone but it is for me. I taught 4 kids with mine. the oldest is just a few years younger than the gun. I usually have the old 3 screw in the trunk of the car with a brick or two. If we are somewhere we can shoot you will find them digging in the trunk for it. Thanks again for the pics.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2011, 02:53:04 AM »
40 hrs is 14,600 days.

Aw cummon Brie!  Anyone can make a mistake!   ;D

'cept me of course...  :-\  my mistakes are called malpractice!   ::)

LOL.

It's ALL in fun!!  Just good natured teasing!! ;)

I won't sell either of mine. Both are excellent shooters and have accompanied me many times.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2011, 05:53:25 AM »
Thanx for clearing up the LR vs Mag bore question to my satisfaction 44Man, and other good comments too. Im sure I could be a happy shooter with any of your recommendations.
There is a difference in mesurement . Ruger made runs of guns with correct 22 LR bores for shooters who shot games like IMHSA matches. At long range ( 50-100 yards ) it matters. If you don't shoot past 25 or so yards it most likely won't matter or if long range is the game used the 22 mag bbl.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2011, 05:57:21 AM »
Just how would I distinguish one of those IMHSA revolvers and is that in LR or Mag?
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2011, 06:20:49 AM »
It has a different model number . I don't know it but a call to Ruger could tell you. Maybe its on the IMHSA site or shooting steel . On the Ruger site they offer a model KNR-5-60 it is 22 LR only they should be able to give you bbl specs for it and the convertable so you can see if it has a tighter bore. I will look thru a book I have on shooting steel to see if it list the number if I can find the book. One option is find a really old/worn cheap Ruger and have the bbl sleeved to a tight 22 LR bore.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2011, 08:03:01 AM »
It used to be just buying a LR only got you the tighter LR bore. My own is such a gun it's a early three screw, adj site, 5.5" barrel, LR only single six.

As I said, I have had a couple none have been as accurate as this one.

When I came  the Colt Frontier in 22 MAG only, I grabbed it up hoping it was a rare mag only gun. It shoots wonderfly accurate easily one inch at 25yards. That's with the crappy SAA style sites. It's a favorite!!!
 

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2011, 08:30:18 AM »
It would seem like the Bearcat would have the tighter bbl.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2011, 09:28:42 AM »
Agreed but not super bearcat with two cylinders.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2011, 02:21:48 PM »
Buy a Ruger Single Six and you will never regret it or have buyers remorse.  My dad got me one when I was about 15.  I can shoot bottle caps at 20 yards.  I rarely use the magnum cylinder.  The single six is quality.  It will last a lifetime.  Mine flooded in Katrina.  I took it down sprayed cleaned it good and oiled it up.  It isn't that pretty now but it works fine.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2011, 11:10:52 AM »
Agreed but not super bearcat with two cylinders.

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The old model Bearcat's and Super Bearcat were not offered as a convertable 22LR/22MAG... they only came in 22LR.   

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2011, 12:49:15 PM »
Agreed but not super bearcat with two cylinders.

CW

The old model Bearcat's and Super Bearcat were not offered as a convertible 22LR/22MAG... they only came in 22LR.   

I beg to differ..
I looked for something RUGER to quantify my claims. All I could find was the recall. But do a search, they are out there...

http://www.ruger.com/pdf/newBearcatConvertible.pdf

Altho not common, Ruger did in factmake them with BOTH cylinders...

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2011, 05:22:42 PM »
Sorry pard, but your "agreed but not super bearcat with two cylinders." comment is still dead wrong.

What I said was not a guess...
All of the Super Bearcats ever made were three-screw or Old Models (with no transfer bar safety), had a 91- serial range and were only made from late 1971 to Jan 1974 for approximately 67K of them total.   And all of them were ONLY offered in 22LR.     What differentiated them from the Old Model Bearcats was the change from the alloy cylinder/frame of the OM Bearcats to the steel cylinder/frame of the Super Bearcat.   Approximately the first 7/10ths of them had brass anodized trigger guards like the OM Bearcats, the last 3/10ths had blued steel trigger guards.

Maybe the link is confusing you because you are trying to add a short lived NEW Model Bearcat specification (22LR/22MAG convertables) to OLD Model Super Bearcats (or Old Model Bearcats for that matter).   The recall is for Bearcat 22MAG cylinders in the 93- serial number range, which is the New Model Bearcats with the transfer bar safety that first started production in 1993.    Those covertable 22LR/22MAG Bearcats were only offered for about the first two years of that NEW Model Bearcats production, after that they reverted to only being offered in 22LR.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2011, 04:32:05 AM »
So........there were some Bearcats, albeit in 'NEW Model' that were 22Mag convertibles; any idea if they used the supposedly tighter LR barrel on those?
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2011, 04:43:29 AM »
Sorry pard, but your "agreed but not super bearcat with two cylinders." comment is still dead wrong.

What I said was not a guess...
All of the Super Bearcats ever made were three-screw or Old Models (with no transfer bar safety), had a 91- serial range and were only made from late 1971 to Jan 1974 for approximately 67K of them total.   And all of them were ONLY offered in 22LR.     What differentiated them from the Old Model Bearcats was the change from the alloy cylinder/frame of the OM Bearcats to the steel cylinder/frame of the Super Bearcat.   Approximately the first 7/10ths of them had brass anodized trigger guards like the OM Bearcats, the last 3/10ths had blued steel trigger guards.

Maybe the link is confusing you because you are trying to add a short lived NEW Model Bearcat specification (22LR/22MAG convertibles) to OLD Model Super Bearcats (or Old Model Bearcats for that matter).   The recall is for Bearcat 22MAG cylinders in the 93- serial number range, which is the New Model Bearcats with the transfer bar safety that first started production in 1993.    Those convertible 22LR/22MAG Bearcats were only offered for about the first two years of that NEW Model Bearcats production, after that they reverted to only being offered in 22LR.

   Ladobe

So basically there are no 22mag Bearcats until there where and then there weren't...
 Look in not looking to argue dates, materials or prefix codes. I too can spout tenure and model. The fact that I didn't list NEW OLD Model is my bad.
 The FACT remains the FACTORY made 22LR/22Mag small frame single action rim-fire revolvers. My post was to inform such a revolver exists. So anyone reading and finding such an animal would be informed. I didn't stipulate years of manufacture, frame materials or prefix codes. I said the super bearcat in 22Mag wouldn't have a tight barrel as a LR bearcat.
Maybe I miss typed exact precise model, again, my bad. The FACT remains there was 22MAG in this revolver.  REGARDLESS of date, material or time of manufacture...   Why all the drama? I mean have I threatened or offended you in some way?...Pard.

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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2011, 10:30:40 AM »
gcrank1, IMO it's probably safe to assume that Ruger followed the common practice of barreling the new steel Bearcat revolvers for 22LR bullets (.222) same as Colt and others did on their rimfire convertables.

CW, I only corrected the misinformation that you posted so other folks wouldn't be mislead by it.  Simple as that.   It was not an attack on your personally, just correcting wrong information.   Had you not used the name Super Bearcat I would not have jumped in at all.
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Re: i want a single action 22lr/22mag
« Reply #59 on: June 13, 2011, 01:50:46 AM »
40 hrs is 14,600 days.

Aw cummon Brie!  Anyone can make a mistake!   ;D

'cept me of course...  :-\  my mistakes are called malpractice!   ::)
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