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Bad taste in pond fish
« on: May 12, 2011, 04:40:46 PM »
Fish from a pond I fish have a bad mud and sort of Iodine taste. The cat fish and also the bream. I can catch all i mwant but don't want to waste them. I just catch and release. How can this taste be removed or covered up? LOVE TO CATCH AND EAT BREAM!!!

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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 06:21:42 PM »
where do you live

i have a pond over loaded with brim and a few large cats

haven't eaten any yet
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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 06:33:47 PM »
You might want to contact your county conservation agent, might have an answer for you. 
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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 06:53:55 PM »
my guess is water quality or if you feed the fish it could be the food.  I have a friend who raised catfish and the "pond raised" taste is what the fish food smelled like to me.

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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 07:25:15 PM »
Taste one for flavor before dressing them all.  Dont use any seasoning. If they are on flavor (taste good)  they won't need doctoring, soaking with buttermilk or smearing with mustard or such things, to taste good.  If off flavor you have to wash them out or you are probably wasteing your time.

If they are off flavor keep them alive in fresh water for three days and the bad flavor will wash out. Then dress them. The trick is to get them in the trough in good enough shape to live 3 days.  My father learned to wash them out from an old commercial fisherman. Real bad flavor can be changed to excellent fish with 3 days in fresh water. Plenty of aeriation started before you put the fish in the trough and no clorinated city or clorinated water association water.

This will work with scale fish also," the trick is getting the fish in the trough in good enough shape to live three days".

I raised catfish commercially in ponds and would swing anywhere from 25,000 to over a 100,000 pounds across a levy from a bad pond to a good pond to get them ready to sell. I did it many times successfully.

If they are on flavor you can dress them whole and steak them or fillett them and cut the fillets into steaks (really big fish). Fillett steaks might end up inch or so square fingers that are easy to cook. Steaks cut fron whole fish are a little harder to cook successfully because of the different flesh thicknesses and bones.  Cut between the rib bones like cutting up a slab of pork ribs to avoid picking out bone  fragments while eating the fish.  Jaw muscles are good to.

Catfish is an oily fish and you would have to smoke it in a pan or on a wire rack, not hanging from a limb with the skin on it to hold it together. If smoked It is best if eaten when cooked. You can freeze it raw and smoke it when ever you want to thaw some and smoke it. The skin can't be left on to hold the fish together while smokeing. If the skin stays moist it will turn to a soft goo. If the skin gets dry while cooking it gets real hard and unedible.

For smokeing (it will cover some off flavors) I use some medium sweet white wine with a little soy sauce and some basil and garlic salt added. Put the fish in a pan with just enough marinade to cover the bottom of the pan and baste the fish a few times. Have a little extra baste made up so you can add a little if needed. Use pecan wood without bark for the smoke. When it flakes it is done.

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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2011, 04:17:28 PM »
I've been told that the bad or muddy taste is from an algae in the water.  Some of the worst tasting fish I ever had came from a nice, clear sand pit.
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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2011, 04:55:26 PM »
Skin and fillet the cats.  Coat the nuggets in prepared mustard for 1 hr.  Remove the nuggets but do not wash the mustard away.  Roll the nuggets in breader and fry.  You will be amazed that the mud smell is gone away and you will not taste any mustard.  Never tried with bream.  Have tried with freezer burned fish, and it helps them also.

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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 11:20:05 AM »
they need to be kept alive and in a diffrent water to flush out the mud/alge taste
soaking flesh in milk was said to help
others say the use of instant coffee is another, the tannins in the coffee breaks down the gamey taste and aids in a tender fillet.
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Re: Bad taste in pond fish
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 01:39:11 PM »
is the pond possibly getting runoff from a poultry farm or land where poultry litter was spread for fertilizer?when i used to work on a turkey farm years ago we used a lot of iodine as disenfectent and even injected it into the water supply goin to the turkeys waterers when they were sick.large piles of poultry litter also ooze a nasty brown liquid that can wash for a long way in a big rain.runoff from log yards and sawmills can contain a lot of tannin also.

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mossy or muddy taste of fish
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 09:35:02 AM »
Its the time the year, best tasteing fish is through the ice (hardwater) the spring is good as well up till late june early july, after that they tast like what they swim in of worse, as a Kid I remember my uncles fish pond, a seep/spring/run off fed stock dam, spring the fish tasted great as the water was fresh run off, the spring started drying up some in late Aug so the water is stagnant in allot of the ponds unless ther strongly fed by a active brook or spring or runoff.
Sept is nesting time for bass they will taste muddy they biite like crazy but taste like hell so pay attention to nesting/spawning season of the fish you wish to catch, pondfish taste terrible if caught during its breeding season. choose the site and season accordingly.
wide warm shallow ponds will produce a harsher tasteing fish than cool narrow deep ones.