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Offline Natty Ned

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« on: December 29, 2003, 05:00:06 PM »
I'm looking for a good scope in the 2x-7x to put on a 16 1/8 7-30 waters barrel. I don't have the money for a Burris or a Leupold. Is there anything
out there for a little less money thats worth looking at ? This is for a pistol,and I haven't had much sucess seeing anything through a pistol scope. Is this just me, or do I need to hold out for a better scope ? What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2003, 05:25:24 PM »
Natty,
I use a Bushnell Elite 3200 2-6X32. Works great, has a constant 20 inches of eye relief. Runs about $230 new, although Natchez is closing out all their Bushnell Elites without the firefly reticle. If you have short arms or tend to creep in on the scope, the constant eye relief might be problematic. I think the Elites are about the best for the money.
Bill

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2003, 05:54:42 PM »
I have a number of scopes , I have got some good buys on ebay you just have to wait and watch for the right deal .
One of the scopes I have is the bushnell elite 2x6 but i have considered trying the trophy.

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2003, 03:24:36 AM »
I shoot the Bushnell Trophy 2-6X32 on my 14" .223 (used to be on my 15" .308) with good results.  It doesn't have the more generous field of view of the Burris, but I like the fixed eye relief.  I've been tempted to try the Elite on my .308 now that the .223 wears the Trophy.

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2003, 04:48:12 AM »
I have a Burris 1.5-4, a Leupold 2-7 and I have a Simmons Pro-hunter 2-6 on order. It should be in later this week and I'll let you know what I think when I get my hands on it. I hope it is a good as I have been led to believe.

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2003, 05:15:07 AM »
I think the Bushnell Elite is the greatest out there for the Contender.  Clear, good eye relief . . . just an excellent scope.  Of course when I bought mine, about 4 years ago, they ran around $250.00.  All these guys have em because they are just a great scope.

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I have two of the Bushnell 2x6 and like them
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2003, 06:01:33 AM »
I purchased one from EABrown and one on this classified site. Both are on heavy recoil pistols and have served me well. The Elite might be better but I have looked through one of them.
Here is were I got mine.
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2003, 02:52:45 PM »
Natty Ned,

It's probably going to be hard to find a GOOD 2-7x scope for a really cheap price.  Yes, the Burris and Leupold are expensive scopes, but I am a firm believer that you only get what you pay for.  I have one of each, love them both, and have cringed each time I reached for my wallet to pay for them, but have never regreted the decision.  I do not have a Simmons or Bushnell variable power, but I understand that both are excellent scopes for the money (not even that much cheaper than the Leupold or Burris).  I would not go cheaper than the Bushnell (Trohpy) or Simmons in a variable power scope, for fear of less-than-ideal craftsmanship and dependablilty.  

T/C makes a hard to beat scope as well (I believe that they cost about the same as the Bushnell or Simmons).

You could also pick up a used scope off of ebay, but you never know what you might get.
How'd you like a peek at my 14-incher? (Contender, that is)

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2003, 03:19:31 PM »
man, it's hard to beat a 2x7, or 3x12 burris in my opinion. the 2x7 model has 21' wide field of view on 2x. about the widest view out there. sure would top off a nice rig like yours. i know the money is hard to come up with, but you would enjoy it.
i also have the simmons 2x6 on my 14" 44mag contender. it's doing good so far, for the money. none of them compare to the burris, in my opinion, in field of view, eye relief, or clarity. i'm sure the 2.5x8 leupold is dandy, but gosh they want $400. :eek:
i had a 2.5x7 tc scope once upon a time, and they are nice.
the simmons, and bushnel's have a different longer eye relief. it doesn't bother me, but it is noticably longer than burris.
sorry, just blabbing my thoughts. :)

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2003, 04:18:07 PM »
T/C (at eds contenders), Bushnell Trophy, Weaver are all under $200.  In my opinion they are all good scopes if that fits your price range.

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2003, 05:09:10 PM »
Ned,
  Pistol scopes just don't come cheap, bottom line. Flyfisher mentioned that T/C made scopes. Nope , they don't. They buy scopes from a Japanese manufacturer and put their name on them. These "T/C" scopes aren't bad for the $300 price range, but they're not top of the line Japanese optics either. While they will hold up to heavy recoil the peripheral is blurry, which narrows the already narrow field of view in a pistol scope.
   The focus here Ned should be on practice. I spend at least a few hours a week sitting , standing , nealing  searching for targets within my home or the woods, just anything that I know will come into focus of my scope.
From here I bring my Encore to arm's length continuously until my target is in the cross hairs with one single movement.
   From here, once you've got this down, practice the same thing, "unloaded" with the hammer cocked, to practice your reflex shot "dry firing".  Next go to the range and practice live firing from different positions. Remember, a reflex shot is your best friend in the woods. Contemplated shots are anticipated shots which are likely to be pulled, especially off hand from a heavy pistol. The key here is practice practice practice. You can't go wrong with practice no matter what scope you have, as long as it'll handle the recoil.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2003, 06:56:26 PM »
I want  to thank all of you shooters, who responded to my post. I have gotten a lot of great information, which has helped me a bunch. You guys make a feller feel right to home.
Natty Ned    :D

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good scope
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2004, 12:07:04 AM »
I had planned on buying a 17 HRM barrel for my contender for some time now and finally went for it when midway had them for 199 bucks. I had checked out scopes for a while too and decided that the bushnell trophy 2x6x32 would do fine until I found out that D and R sports center has the elite 3200 2x6x32 for just 218.
     Just be sure to order early, they didn't ship mine until a week after I ordered it.  I probably won't get the free rain jacket offer in in time so there goes 99.95 down the drain.
    Anyway I don't think you can go wrong with the bushnells for the money.

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2004, 09:16:25 AM »
I would recomand you use iron sights till you can save up and get a leupold. I`ve shot several deer with a handgun and iron sights. I did mount 1 Burrius scope on a .357 max. It was a 3x9 and the point of impact moved 6 in. when I went from 9x down to 3x, but my group size with 3x was about 1/2 the size on 3x as it was on 9x. Needless to say I got ride of the scope. I told the guy I sold it to and he was going to send it in for repair, me, I`m just done with them.

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I would reccommend you save and go for the Burris
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2004, 07:25:55 AM »
if you are hunting with it.  The 2-7 Burris is not all it's cracked up to be for eye relief on the upper powers.  In all honesty, consider a 2x for hunting.  They are cheaper, lighter, and work well for the ranges you likely will be shooting at with a handgun.  You can grab one of those on Ebay for $100.  

Burris and Bushnell are the only way to go for handgun scopes in my opinion.  If you have the bucks, go for Burris and take advantage of the field of view.  If money is tight, go for the Bushnell, a great value.  The Burris 1.5-4 is great also, though a little long.  Excellent optics and the deer hate 'em.

Hope this makes sense.
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2004, 04:58:05 PM »
I shoot both the encore and contender with six 14" match barrels, all scoped, 4 Leupold & 2 TC's (2 x 7/8 var) eer. mostly benchrest.  If budget permits go leupold, the TC's have never given me any problems and their quality is about 90% if you were to do a side by side comparason in my opinion.  Both have lifetime quarantees. Check out
www.swfa.com and go to their "sample list where they feature over 100 used scopes & other optics at great prices, alsothe "contender cache".  Aside from the scope, the scope base & rings are really important and proper mounting is critical. Buy the best you can afford!   :shock: Be very careful with E-Bay, you can easily pay as much or more than had you purchased new, to say nothing of the "shipping" charges. Good luck!

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2004, 02:04:58 PM »
I just got in from trying out the ProHunter 2-6x32. For $119, it really is a good deal. Parallax is an issue I'm not used to dealing with in my current Burris/Leupold scopes, but the optics are clear and at this point I'll say it is a good buy for the $ if you can't afford the big money stuff. Just keep in mind, I've only used it once so far, so I might change my mind after putting it to work in the field.