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More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« on: May 25, 2011, 05:07:04 PM »
I vist the HuffPost occasionally, and I followed a link to this piece by Radley Balko filling in some details about the SWAT raid that seems to be turning into a cover-up by Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html

The article states that last year some of Jose Guerena's in-laws were murdered by home invaders, so it seems natural enough, after being awakened by his frightened wife seeing a bunch of heavily armed men approach the house, a concerned husband and former Marine grabs his AR-15 and prepares to defend his own family from a home invasion. He is hit by 60 rounds out of 72 fired at him by this (choose your own popular cuss word to go here) badly trained home invasion gang and he dies bleeding to death in his own home because SWAT keeps EMTs away for over an hour.

In truth the 60 hits he took may not have been survivable, but that is not the point. The point is there was no attempt to provide immediate emergency care. In fact, being the cynical chap that I am I'm assuming they probably used SOP and handcuffed him while he lay there and they searched his home!  :'(

It's a long and disturbing article, but I think its one well worth reading.

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 05:12:22 PM »
There is also a coverup by Dupnik on the Laugner case in the shooting of Giffords. Seems his mom is a county employee and Dupnik failed to do the prper things in some incidences Laughner had before the shooting.He could have been in jail instead of being out roaming the streets.

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 05:41:28 PM »
Sheriff Clarence Dupnick (D) - here's a clue about the sheriff and his mind set :P
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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 06:06:34 PM »
Living in this state, I can tell you he is a member of the open borders bunch.

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 06:10:36 PM »
No you must be confused.  The police are the good guys.  When they shoot someone he becomes the bad guy.  They are flawlessly ethical and moral.  Just ask them, they'll tell you.  When they kick in a door at night and shoot the hell out of the place you can assume that guy was VERY bad.  If he wasn't before they kicked in the door, he will be after...

They are just there to protect and serve... Just keep telling yourself that...

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 03:50:01 AM »
Hey, what good is it for a cop to have a super dooper fully automatic M-16 if he can't blow someone away with it?

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 09:10:56 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%7C66223

Just a bit more on this case, I'll add a few selected sentences from the above link:

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As the SWAT team forced its way into his home, Guerena, a former Marine who served two tours of duty in Iraq, armed himself with his AR-15 rifle and told his wife and son to hide in a closet. As the officers entered, Guerena confronted them from the far end of a long, dark hallway. The police opened fire, releasing more than 70 rounds in about 7 seconds, at least 60 of which struck Guerena. He was pronounced dead a little over an hour later.

The Pima County Sheriff's Department initially claimed (PDF) Guerena fired his weapon at the SWAT team. They now acknowledge that not only did he not fire, the safety on his gun was still activated when he was killed. Guerena had no prior criminal record, and the police found nothing illegal in his home. After ushering out his wife and son, the police refused to allow paramedics to access Guerena for more than hour, leaving the young father to bleed to death, alone, in his own home.

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The Pima County Sheriff's Office has now changed its story several times over the last few weeks. They have issued a press release (PDF) scolding the media and critics for questioning the legality of the raid, the department's account of what happened, and the department's ability to fairly investigate its own officers. They have obtained a court order sealing the search warrants and police affidavits that led to the raids, and they're now refusing any further comment on the case at all. When I contacted Public Information Officer Jason Ogan with some questions, he replied via email that the department won't be releasing any more information. On Saturday, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik told Arizona Daily Star columnist Josh Brodesky that he may never release the search warrants and police affidavits.

Keeping this in the public eye is the only hope for justice to be done...

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2011, 03:14:48 PM »
Unless a judge opens them up, which they may do. I would be curious to know the grounds of the warrant.

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Re: More about Marine killed by AZ SWAT
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 03:55:10 PM »
Pronounced dead an hour later just means that is when the Coroner got there to do that. Most likely the fellow was dead before he hit the ground with that many rifle rounds.
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