Author Topic: Old Korean Cannon (Read 1005 times)

bluelake · « **on:** May 28, 2011, 06:02:02 PM »

Here are some pics I thought might be interesting. This first set is of a cannon made around 1874 that was copied from a captured French piece from 1866.

bluelake · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:04:32 PM »

Some more.

bluelake · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:06:09 PM »

More...

bluelake · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:07:43 PM »

Some others...

bluelake · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:09:46 PM »

...and a few more...

One of the last batch is a British cannon and some others are Chinese.

RocklockI · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2011, 08:34:17 PM »

That is a pretty nice looking tube on that first set of pics. ,other than the offset bore

But that that reminds me of Malisa Tourma (yes I can't spell) when she explianed the deer hunting story to Vinnie and what clothes he should wear , in 'my cousin Vinnie'

good work .

Gary

bluelake · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2011, 11:13:01 PM »

Quote from: RocklockI on May 28, 2011, 08:34:17 PM

That is a pretty nice looking tube on that first set of pics. ,other than the offset bore

But that that reminds me of Malisa Tourma (yes I can't spell) when she explianed the deer hunting story to Vinnie and what clothes he should wear , in 'my cousin Vinnie'

good work .

Gary

Yeah, the Korean traditional way of cannon making was sandcasting with a core. The making of a reproduction can be seen on a video on my YouTube; my ID is "profduv" and the filename is chongtong.avi

dan610324 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2011, 01:19:11 AM »

interesting to use clay and 4 arrows

Cannoneer · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2011, 03:02:52 AM »

bluelake,

Do you know the provenance of the gunade (147, 148)?

Starr 2011 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2011, 04:14:06 AM »

Cannoneer

The gunade marks "Crown BP" suggest that it was made by Bailey Pegg & Company, iron merchants & iron founders, of Bankside, Southwark, London and the Brierley Foundry, Staffordshire, England. They made a great many iron and brass guns for merchant ships, commercial trading companies and the East India Company from around 1812. A lot of their small guns and swivels are still found in Africa and Asia. They were still making iron guns for private use in the 1860s and only went out of business in 1966.

Starr

bluelake · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2011, 04:41:01 AM »

Cannoneer,

According to the plate next to it, it came from Viet Nam.

T

Cannoneer · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2011, 10:54:58 AM »

Thanks for the information, bluelake. That it came to Korea from Viet Nam is the form of history I'm curious about; was there any additional storyline of how (and when) the Koreans came to possess the gun, or how/if they put it to use?

bluelake · « **Reply #12 on:** May 31, 2011, 12:07:17 PM »

Quote from: Cannoneer on May 31, 2011, 10:54:58 AM

Thanks for the information, bluelake. That it came to Korea from Viet Nam is the form of history I'm curious about; was there any additional storyline of how (and when) the Koreans came to possess the gun, or how/if they put it to use?

According to the plate, it was captured during the Viet Nam War in 1971.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2011, 05:25:21 PM »

Quote from: RocklockI on May 28, 2011, 08:34:17 PM

That is a pretty nice looking tube on that first set of pics. ,other than the offset bore

But that that reminds me of Malisa Tourma (yes I can't spell) when she explianed the deer hunting story to Vinnie and what clothes he should wear , in 'my cousin Vinnie'

good work .

Gary

Spot on! But not quoatable here!

bluelake · « **Reply #14 on:** May 31, 2011, 06:05:05 PM »

It's interesting about the Korean copy of the French cannon. They were cast in 1874, which was three years after the US battled Korean troops (Today is the 140th anniversary of the first shots fired in that fight). The regent of Korea, the father of the king, was put out of power the year before when his son became old enough to take the throne. Koreans wanted to upgrade their artillery, but the most modern examples they had were the captured French pieces. Late the following year, Japan invaded in the same area the Americans did in 1871, but, unlike the US, were successful in opening up Korea's doors. The United States signed a treaty with Korea in 1882.

Cannoneer · « **Reply #15 on:** June 01, 2011, 01:23:55 AM »

Quote from: bluelake on May 31, 2011, 12:07:17 PM

Quote from: Cannoneer on May 31, 2011, 10:54:58 AM
Thanks for the information, bluelake. That it came to Korea from Viet Nam is the form of history I'm curious about; was there any additional storyline of how (and when) the Koreans came to possess the gun, or how/if they put it to use?

According to the plate, it was captured during the Viet Nam War in 1971.

Now that's what I'd call some fascinating information; so our South Korean allies were at least able to gain a cannon for their participation in that ill-fated war.

bluelake · « **Reply #16 on:** June 01, 2011, 04:04:12 AM »

Quote from: Cannoneer on June 01, 2011, 01:23:55 AM

Now that's what I'd call some fascinating information; so our South Korean allies were at least able to gain a cannon for their participation in that ill-fated war.

It seems that way...

I'll be visiting the Korea Military Academy again on Friday, as I have to give a lecture to a class of cadets.

Are there any particular cannon pictures anyone might be interested in? I can't promise I'll have the chance to look, but I can try.

RocklockI · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2011, 09:40:04 AM »

just more !

bluelake · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2011, 03:47:44 PM »

I'll see what I can do. It will depend a lot on how tight my schedule is.

bluelake · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2011, 12:34:16 AM »

Well, I gave my lecture at the Korea Military Academy today and took a few more pictures and a lot of second ones of those I took last time. One piece that was interesting, but not exactly of this forum's type, was a late 19th century Russian gun.

I'll also put up more detail on the 2nd British gun.

bluelake · « **Reply #20 on:** June 03, 2011, 12:38:13 AM »

2nd British gun

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2011, 05:07:43 PM »

Interesting breech mechanism on the Russian gun!