Lol, no b+e. I got the 586 from a local dealer. He had it maybe 2 yrs ago. I saw it then but never made the leap to buy it. He sold it, then it came back as owner needed cash. It was cheap,250 bucks. After I got it, I told a fellow shooter about it. I said it was the smoothest gun I had felt. He opened his safe and said , try these. Worked a trade and now had 2 38s.
I have shot the 357. It will out shoot me, as expected. It is a pleasure to shoot. Once I load up some 38s I will give them a try. I buy them to shoot, so no more safe queens for the 38's