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Isreali Billionaires caught trading with enemy Iran
« on: June 05, 2011, 04:16:31 AM »
The isreali Ofer Brother Corp, friends of Bibi, caught trading with arch enemy Iran.....fyi...TM7



Billionaires caught in Iran trade storm

Israel's Ofer brothers face a backlash at home and abroad over their business dealings


By Catrina Stewart in Jerusalem


Thursday, 2 June 2011


Yuli (left) and Sami Ofer. Their company, Ofer Brothers Group, has courted controversy in the past




Ofer Brothers Group, one of Israel's most powerful corporations, is no stranger to scandal, but until now has largely emerged unscathed. But since allegations emerged that it traded with Iran it has been facing an unprecedented domestic backlash that could profoundly shake the Israeli establishment.


Israel's hawkish government, led by Benjamin Netanyahu, is the most vocal of Iran's critics, labelling its nuclear ambitions an existential threat to the Jewish state and calling repeatedly for tougher economic sanctions by the international community. But what it demands of others, it apparently fails to do itself, Israeli commentators say.

"Netanyahu, who endlessly preaches the need for firm action against Iran to prevent it from acquiring nuclear arms, is not lifting a finger to stop Israeli companies and individuals indirectly trading with Iran," wrote Yossi Melman in the left-leaning newspaper Haaretz.

Ofer Bros was one of seven companies singled out by the United States for punishment last week after it sold a tanker to an Iranian front company in contravention of US sanctions. Days later, Israeli media revealed that it enjoyed even more extensive trading links with the Islamic Republic than previously understood.

The revelations embroil the Israeli government in an embarrassing and murky affair that has transfixed the domestic media and spawned vivid speculation about the nature of relations between Ofer Bros and Israel's shadowy security services.

Ofer, owned by octogenarian brothers Sammy and Yuli Ofer, is now facing an unprecedented storm of domestic criticism, fuelled by a long-standing animosity to a company that has often courted controversy in its business dealings. Among the most pressing of questions is just how much successive Israeli governments knew and to what extent its security services were complicit in the company's involvement with Iran. Several Israeli newspapers have quoted sources close to Ofer Bros as saying that the corporation was furthering Israel's security interests in Iran. Mr Netanyahu has said only that his government approved no deals with the Iranians.

The affair erupted last week when the US claimed the company had sold a tanker to the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines for $8.6m via its Singapore-based subsidiary Tanker Pacific. Ofer responded by saying it did not know the buyer was a front for the Iranian company. US officials said Ofer Bros did not do the due diligence that would have revealed the client's real identity.

The US move deals a heavy blow to Ofer Bros. It will not be able to draw loans of more than $10 billion from US banks, secure financing from the Export-Import Bank of the US or receive US export licences.

At home, the Ofer family came under even further scrutiny after a newspaper alleged that ships belonging to companies owned by the group had docked in Iranian ports to load and offload goods at least 13 times in the past decade. The allegations prompted discussion over whether the company broke Israeli law that prohibits trade with enemy states.

The affair took a bizarre and titillating turn this week, when a MP abruptly cancelled a televised parliamentary meeting to discuss the affair after being handed a hand-written note. Carmel Shama-Hacohen has refused to discuss what was in the note, saying that it did not come from a political or business figure, prompting speculation that it originated with the security services.

Further clouding the picture, Mr Shama-Hacohen added: "It turns out that reality is much more complex, much more complicated and touchy than the average imagination can handle."

His words only heightened speculation that Ofer Bros had helped Israel's security services, an assumption apparently encouraged by sources close to the Ofer family. The best-selling Yedioth Ahronoth quoted a high-ranking official as saying that the company had "performed a significant service for the state of Israel ... at times while endangering their business."

Ronen Bergman, the author of an forthcoming book on Mossad, the Israeli secret service, said that while Israel had a history of using Israeli or Jewish businessmen to further its security interests, Ofer Bros could be playing up its co-operation with the security services to limit the damage to its reputation domestically. "According to the bizarre psychology of Israelis, you can be blamed with all sorts of wrongdoing" and get away with it, he said, referring to allegations levelled at Ofer Bros in the past. "But if you damage national security or are blamed for doing business with the 'empire of evil'... they [Ofer Bros] know this will not go away easily."

Others, such as the Labour party MP Einat Wilf, were sceptical that there was any truth to the suggestions. "They are trying to create a smokescreen to defend enormous economic interests by using the pretext of security so the whole world will just say 'Amen' and ask no questions," Ms Wilf told public radio.

The Ofer siblings, estimated by Forbes magazine to have a combined wealth of $10.3 billion, control a vast array of holdings in Israel and overseas, spanning energy, shipping and media. But their businesses have frequently attracted unwelcome scrutiny, and critics have charged that the brothers grew rich at the expense of the state, buying up privatised assets cheaply with the collusion of government officials.

Among their most profitable enterprises is the controversial Dead Sea Works, a chemical plant that is blamed for extensive pollution and causing the sea to shrink at an alarming rate. The brothers were accused of influencing the Israeli media when domestic television channels refused to broadcast an documentaryinvestigating links between Ofer Bros and the political establishment. It was shown by Channel 1 after it agreed to air a filmed response from the company.

Prohibited practice

Lloyds TSB, Barclays and Credit Suisse The banks forfeited hundreds of millions of dollars to US authorities in 2009 and 2010 for unlawfully allowing financial transactions to take place between nations prohibited by US sanctions. Officials from Lloyds TSB, which was forced to pay out $350m, admitted that the British bank had removed data detailing the origins and destinations of transactions for Sudan and Iran, for fear that the US would block the deals when they were wired through the American banking system.

The Weir Group PLC The Glasgow-based engineering firm agreed to pay almost £14m last year after breaching UN sanctions covering its oil-for-food programme (set up in 1995 to allow Iraq to sell oil in exchange for food and medical supplies). Weir, which makes valves and pumps for the oil and gas industry, admitted it paid £3.1m to an agent which arranged contracts for Saddam Hussein's government between 2000 and 2002.

Royal Bank of Scotland The UK's Financial Services Authority fined RBS £5.6m last year for failing to ensure that enough checks were in place to prevent funds from being transferred to terrorist units or other groups prohibited under Treasury sanctions

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/billionaires-caught-in-iran-trade-storm-2292006.html

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 05:05:18 AM »
IF these allegations are true, they need their butts kicked.  so many people will sell their soul for a dollar.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 05:09:52 AM »
Bugeye, like all of TM's allegations I am sure these will proveto be lies also.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 11:05:10 AM »
Did a jewish kid beat you up and steal your milk money in kindergarten?
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 11:37:26 AM »
Did a jewish kid beat you up and steal your milk money in kindergarten?
ROTHLMAO, that explains a lot.

billy, yeah, most of his stuff is a crock.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 02:27:11 AM »
Did a jewish kid beat you up and steal your milk money in kindergarten?
.S00oooo--Lakota...Did a jewish kid shine a bright 'light' in you eyes when you were in Sunday school...??

..TM7

Actually TM a Jewish kid is the light.


So what fakestory will you post next? One thing you are is 100% predictable. You alsways in the end blame the Jews.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 05:57:13 AM »
Isreal will trade with anyone they can make a dollar off. They were caught a few years ago selling the chinese millitary equipment they had gotten from us! But hey they are gods chosen people and can do no wrong!
 They just like the Muslim scum need to wiped off the face of the earth!

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 06:06:27 AM »
TM they have tabloids in Israel just like our Weekly world news, Onion and the Globe. I guess those are good news sources also.

Dude keep up the humor. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 06:36:45 AM »
I'm guessing he means Jesus C. I'm only guessing now,hear! ;)
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 12:01:59 PM »
Sorry TM I dont go to church. I do not consider myself a christian so no one shined any light in my eyes. Until recently I couldnt give two schnitzels about Israel and viewed them as a parasite sucking the life force from the american taxpayer but with all the anti semitism and the fact that Israel occupies the number 2 slot behind the United States on the list of nations that Obama wishes to destroy makes me wonder if there really is something to all of this stuff.

And you always denigrate people here for speaking negatively about the islamofacists-well you sir are really no different other that the fact that you are always spewing hatred towards jews.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 12:34:53 PM »
Lakota you like most here have caught on to the tricks. We have 2 separate groups on Jew haters here the honest straight out ones, who I have a little respect for and the sniviling lying ones who use the hate mongers SOP "but I have friends who are (insert group here). I can't be hateful of that group. These folks are spineless cowards who deserve no respect.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 05:13:50 PM »
A pretty good summary of your argument:

...load of crap...

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 05:21:41 PM »
Did a jewish kid beat you up and steal your milk money in kindergarten?
:o  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ::) OMG! Those one liners really have ziiiiiiiiiipppppppppppp!
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 05:36:36 PM »
TM they have tabloids in Israel just like our Weekly world news, Onion and the Globe. I guess those are good news sources also.

Dude keep up the humor.
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Dude...you can 'gate keep' this huge story any way you want, but I've read the Knesset reports. Ha'aretz is a respectable news outlet.

But that's not what I asked you.  What I asked you was what you meant by this little gem:

"Actually TM a Jewish kid is the light."

In fact, what EXACTLY you meant with that.....inquiring minds want to know. So what do you mean..?

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"inquiring minds want to know?" You sound like the National Enquirer.

Regarding your statement; "Ha'aretz is a respectable news outlet.". 
Is this the same type of respectable unbiased news outlet like the: "Occupied Palestine "فلسطين
blog, that you quoted from the last time?
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2011, 05:42:52 PM »
John 8:12
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2011, 03:43:43 PM »
Wow, this puts tm in a real pickle.  He hates Jews . . . but they're selling stuff to his buddies, the islamists.  So, he attacks the Jews for selling to the islamists.  But, if the islamists are good guys, then why wouldn't the Jews sell to them?  And if the islamists are good guys, aren't the Jews good guys for selling to them?  But, he hates Jews.  So, he attacks the Jews for selling to the islamists.  But, if the islamists are good guys, then why wouldn't the Jews sell to them?  And if the islamists are good guys, aren't the Jews good guys for selling to them?  But, he hates Jews.  So, he attacks the Jews for selling to the islamists.  But, if the islamists are good guys, then why wouldn't the Jews sell to them?  And if the islamists are good guys, aren't the Jews good guys for selling to them?  But, he hates Jews.  Oh man, my head hurts.
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2011, 03:48:15 PM »
Casull he is angry at the exorbitant markup those evil Jews put on the products. So do you think they sold em a 4000 watt death ray that ran on AA batteries?
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2011, 04:08:19 PM »
... So do you think they sold em a 4000 watt death ray that ran on AA batteries?

Thats preposterous. A death ray would need at least CR123A lithium batteries.
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2011, 04:41:33 PM »
he has jewish friends? so did Eichman, in fact Eichman learned how to speak yedish. It seems he has "jewish envy" and really wants to join them. However, there's a small matter of an initiation cermony which involves a little snip here and a little snip there.

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2011, 04:47:46 PM »
I love the "I have(insert group) friends" defense. The most hate mongering folks I have met in my life ALWAYS use that one. 
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2011, 05:26:17 PM »
Casull -  Help............... My head started to hurt after the first TM "attacks the Jews for selling to the islamists.  But, if the islamists are good guys, then why wouldn't the Jews sell to them?  And if the islamists are good guys, aren't the Jews good guys for selling to them?"  ;D

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My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.

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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2011, 07:35:49 PM »
I'd ask you to post about the topic and not about another poster, but I'm afraid that would fall on deaf ears.