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Fires in Arizona
« on: June 09, 2011, 05:08:02 AM »
Any one here affected by that big fire in Arizona?  I have been through the area when I lived in Arizona, and thought it a great place to retire.  Beautiful spruce trees and mountains.  Also I see the western area of New Mexico is now threatened. 
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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 01:30:32 AM »
I feel sorry for those who lost property.

However, the fires are a necessary part of the ecosystem and the will occur from time to time. It's ultimately good for the forest.

Now some big wild fires are reported near Miami at the edge of the Everglades. These Florida fires are absolutely necessary to this kind of habitat and the plants there are evolved to require periodic fires. May and June is the fire season in Florida.

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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 01:41:00 AM »
I see some very large expensive homes in the woods. They are all going to burn. Some sooner, some later, but they will all burn. We have many gold rush era towns. Most are just names on old maps. Fact of life in the woods.
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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 02:38:07 AM »
That happened in northern Minnesota a few years ago. Lots of destroyed houses built in the woods.

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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 05:12:44 PM »
Yeah but it was started by morons on the Memorial day weekend. If they would change the tree density from 600 trees per acre to 16 like it should, the fire would just burn the groundcover and move down the road without all the major devastation. Thanks liberal tree huggers. Your philosophy fails again.

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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 05:57:11 PM »
The yellowstone 1988 fires put things in perspective. Look at the bright side, the hunting should be really good in a few years. Looks like the prescribed burn methodology needs some tweaking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_fires_of_1988

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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 10:02:54 AM »
I see on the news today they are telling people with heart problems and respiratory problems to either stay indoors or leave the area.  I remember seeing beautiful homes on the western side of those mountains.  Lots of spruce trees and brush so thick you could hardly see the homes.  Then when the wife and I were hunting on the New Mexico side, I remember it being dry and few trees, but lots of dry brush.  Brush so thick we had a hard time walking through it.  Just right for a big fire.  This is the area near Socorro, Silver City, and Las Vegas.

We have forest fires burning all around us right now, and no body other than us are talking about them.  Yea, we got those big water scooper planes flying over day and night.  The smoke has been thick.  Some mornings I can hardly see the street from the front door.  We had rain for the last two days that has slowed them down considerably.  Finally some clear air.  But it's mother natures way of renewing life, and constant change.  Live with it or become extinct.  Down south they talk of fires in hundreds of acres, up here we talk in thousands or millions of acres.  Luckily in most fire areas very few people live in the path of the fires.
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Re: Fires in Arizona
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 07:07:24 PM »
The smoke plume from the two fires has been pretty bad here in ABQ off and on - some nights I can't see the end of the block - I talked to a fellow that lives in Grants, he said he couldn't see his next door neighbors house last Thursday.  Travel on I-40 has been a little dicey at times.  We wake up to fine ash on everything...

The whole SW part of the state has been in drought for the winter & spring, it's pretty much been red flag conditions (low humidity, high winds) since March...

Don't know if the Wallow fire has crossed into NM yet, it probably will soon.  The Horseshoe fire is a little further to the SW.
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