36 pounds caronade test.

[oyvind]

36 pounds caronade test.
2,5kg powder.

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[Cat Whisperer]

Such formal fun!

Did they hit the target?   

[Zulu]

I think I'd want a longer linstock!
Zulu

[gunsonwheels]

I think only in our sport do you get to hear so often grown men giggling like little kids...      

[RocklockI]

Yep we giggle the same in any language. 

Gary

[seacoastartillery]

     Thank you Oyvind!!  I think that has become my favorite movie clip of a cannon firing a blank.  Mike and I never fire blanks so we don't really understand why people would want to, until we saw this flick.  I mean, if you are going to fire a blank, well...................FIRE A BLANK!!!..

     These guys are very smartly dressed for the occasion too.  They look quite formal and we are assuming they have a really nice luncheon in a wicker basket up in the woods, probably some wine, cheeze and other good food.  They probably brought a cork screw which is just what the gunner will need to get his ear plugs out of his skull after they were driven way, way down the ear canal by that BLAST!!.

Tracy & Mike

[keith44]

 


still giggling and I wasn't even there

[Cannoneer]

Simply mere opinion here, but I don't see this one as the laughter of grown men expressing their joy at witnessing "the big boom" in person. I think this would fit better under the heading of nervous laughter meant to relieve tension caused by the unexpected loudness and violent movement of a carronade they hadn't fired before.

[moose53]

That Gentleman is why bigger is better

[oltom]

I Know i laugh when out shooting mine....and i don't know why???!!!!!

makes me wonder, in battle, do the cannoneers all giggle as they are shooting?

[Cannoneer]

I'm going to make the guess that two opposing artillery batteries that were engaged in a duel to see who could destroy the other battery first, would in all probability not be laughing uproariously during the contest.

[smokemjoe]

Thats the best report I have heard on here, How much powder is that in USA weight. Good job. Thanks.

[Double D]

About 60 ounces...3 3/4 pounds.

[subdjoe]

About 60 ounces...3 3/4 pounds.

I had missed the weight given in the original post, so I asked How much powder and what granulation? on the Youtube page.  I got this answer:

2,5 kg (0,3-2 mm) and 2kg of flour. cannon is 1000kg rekyl 0,83 meter

That would be around 5 1/2 pounds of powder behind a (roughly) 4 1/2 pound "projectile."

[Cat Whisperer]

That would be around 5 1/2 pounds of powder behind a (roughly) 4 1/2 pound "projectile."

Hmmm.  As my step-dad would say, a stick of dynomite behind a phonograph needle.

[Cannoneer]

I used google to translate from the Norwegian (?) yesterday, and this is what I got.


"Skyting med 36 pounds karronade med løst krutt og 1/6 ladning for å demonstrere karronadens "uregjerlige rekyl".
Når man ser rekylen her på vått gress, kan man lett tenke seg hvorfor den ikke var poulær blandt mannskapene for 200 år siden, med kule på 18 kilo og nesten 10 kg. krutt.
Navnet karronade kommer av at den ble laget i den skotske byen Carron. Denne eies av marinemuseet og bemannes av "Kystens Voktere". Resten av helgen ble det skutt med litt mindre ladninger for publikum til sto jubel.
Den var da med i "linje" med 3 mindre kanoner og en "fotmorter"."


"Shooting with 36 pounds karronade with loose powder and 1 / 6 charge to demonstrate karronadens "unruly recoil.
 When one looks recoil here in the wet grass, one can easily imagine why it was not poulær among the crews of 200 years ago, with the ball at 18 pounds and almost 10 kg. gunpowder.
 Karronade name is because it was made ​​in the Scottish town of Carron. This is owned by the Marine Museum and staffed by "Coast Keepers. " The rest of the weekend was shot with a little less charges for the audience was cheering.
It was in "line"with 3 smaller cannons and a "fotmorter"."


The answer to Joe's question was: 2,5 kg (0,3-2 mm) and 2kg of flour. cannon is 1000kg rekyl 0,83 meter; so they're saying they loaded over 5.5 lbs in around a 2,204 lb carronade, and it recoiled about 3 ft. Now in what was originally posted it is said that this is a 36-pounder carronade, and it was fired using a one sixth charge. Well, I'd say that over 5½ lbs of powder has got to be about a full charge for that carronade; a full charge for a 32-pdr long gun in the early 1800's was just something over 10 lbs. 

[Double D]

I think we can see why they called caronnades murderers.

[Zulu]

I think we can see why they called caronnades murderers.

I thought swivil guns were murderers.  And caronnades were smashers.
Zulu

[Double D]

I have seen them called both.   They would load the  carronnades with canister when up close to clear an apposing ships decks.

There is also a multiple barreled rifle that is called a murderer, Sgt Harper in the Sharpe's rifles series carries one.

[Zulu]

I have seen them called both.   They would load the  carronnades with canister when up close to clear an apposing ships decks.

There is also a multiple barreled rifle that is called a murderer, Sgt Harper in the Sharpe's rifles series carries one.

Seven barrel, .50 caliber rifle.  Sgt. Harper is one of my heroes.   I've read every book in the series twice.  They never get old.
Zulu

[Double D]

I have seen them called both.   They would load the  carronnades with canister when up close to clear an apposing ships decks.

There is also a multiple barreled rifle that is called a murderer, Sgt Harper in the Sharpe's rifles series carries one.

Seven barrel, .50 caliber rifle.  Sgt. Harper is one of my heroes.   I've read every book in the series twice.  They never get old.
Zulu

Katherine wasn't a big fan of war movies.  I was loaned the complete series of Sharpes movies-TV Shows. She watched the first one with me and then every evening for the days following until we viewed the entire series, she would make some popcorn and say put on the Sharpe's movie!...lots of cannons but no carronades...

[Cannoneer]

I don't understand why they think the recoil of the carronade is extreme ("one can easily imagine why it was not poulær among the crews of 200 years ago, with the ball at 18 pounds and almost 10 kg. gunpowder.") First of all, I think their estimated 10 kg load for an 18-pdr carronade is way over the top, and secondly, in my opinion this vid demonstrates just how much a lower pivot point (under-barrel lug) on a tube reduces the rearward momentum of recoil. Can you imagine how far that barrel and platform would have moved back if it had been a gunade with the trunnions placed on the bore axis? 

[subdjoe]

A few hours ago I asked:

@OddRekyl - Is that tube machined from steel, or cast iron with a steel liner?

Er det tube bearbeidet av stål, eller støpejern med stål liner?

(I hope I guessed the language correctly, and that Google Translate did a good job)

And got this answer:

The cannon is original and 200 years old, cast iron all the way.

(Google translate made a funny translation :-)

Moore questions, e-mail to odd@ulleberg.net

[Cannoneer]

Holey moly, those are some adventurous guys; I don't know that I'd do that myself. If you remember, Squire Robin did the same with his original iron gunade.

[GGaskill]

Holy moly, those are some adventurous guys; ...

I think that is why most of them were hiding in the bushes when the shot was fired.