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20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« on: June 12, 2011, 09:40:45 AM »
Sorry for Hijacking the other thread, I will start this over again new.  There is continued intrest in chamber adaptors or inserts, I think an adaptor is only in the chamber while the insert contains a chamber and barrel.  This is an insert to convert a 20 gauge shotgun to a 32 ACP gun.  I did this as cheap and fast as I could think to do, I used a piece of 303 British barrel because they are avaliable cheap and they also take less machining because they are close to the right diameter (OD).  I use a piece of cut off 410 barrel to build up the breach end because it is easy to do and takes a lot less machining than turning down the full length of a fatter barrel just so you can have a rim on the adaptor.  I gave it about a .003 interference fit and just pounded it on.  I did silver it at the breach end, but if I were to do this again I could eleminate the silver by leaving a very slight sholder on the insert at the breach end and driving the sleeve on from the front.  After that I just turned the breach end to look like a 20 gauge shotgun shell, cut the chamber, made a little relief cut so the empty could be extracted and was basically done with it.  I did cut a V groove inthe muzzel end for an O ring to locage the muzzel end in the shotgun barrel, it is just a nice tight slide in fit.  Entire process took me about 3 1/2 hours, but if I were doing three at a time it would probably only have taken 5 hours total.  All this could be done on a very small cheap lathe, all you need is a steady rest, the extractor cut could be done with a little skill and a Dremmel tool.  I thik this is probably a good product for someone here to produce, I think they could be made up for about cost of less than $10.00 each, so what ever you can get above that is good profit.  Good luck, below are some pictures, I think you can figure out how the fine points were done.  The chambered picture is in my Savage 24, I don't have a 20 gauge H&R.  The adaptor is in the classified adds.  Larry







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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 09:50:51 AM »
very nice larry !!!, we don't think your hi-jack'n anathang ;)
hey if ya ever research a .40 cal insert @ 22" for a 20ga barrel, i'd be intrested
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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 10:35:21 AM »
Could one be made for a 32 HR to fit into a 410? I would like to have it as light as possible, and it seems like thier would be quite a bit of iron to fill a 20 ga barrel.

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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 11:02:23 AM »
You don't end up with much barrel wall thickness, about .065 inches, I would like a barrel a little thicker than that.  Larry
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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »
very nice larry !!!, we don't think your hi-jack'n anathang ;)
hey if ya ever research a .40 cal insert @ 22" for a 20ga barrel, i'd be intrested
thanks....... ;D

hey thanks for the reply !!!
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wifa blank that will do tha job quite well  ;D
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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 04:54:44 PM »
Hi All,

Could someone clue me in on where I can find these inexpensive 303 British barrels?
I think I would like to try this project.

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 05:22:41 PM »
I get them from gunpartsinc, but I will be happy to send you a chunk of the one I used for this one.  Larry
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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 02:18:39 AM »
Larry,

That would be great. I just checked gunparts site and all are sold out. Do they come up for sale often? I'll PM you my info.

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 03:49:04 AM »
Hi All,

Could someone clue me in on where I can find these inexpensive 303 British barrels?
I think I would like to try this project.

Thanks,
Rob

Mosin Nagant and 7.7 Jap are also the same bore as the .303, if that helps you find a blank you can use.  Not sure if the contour is as close as the Brit.

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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 07:19:53 AM »
Any of the .312 or so barrels would work fine, they show up from time to time really cheap and all you need is a little of it with good rifling.  Larry
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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 10:22:41 AM »
I have a lot of 7.62 x 25 Polish Tokarev ammo.  Could a 20 Ga barrel insert (15" ??) be made?

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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 10:50:06 AM »

Mosin Nagant and 7.7 Jap are also the same bore as the .303, if that helps you find a blank you can use.  Not sure if the contour is as close as the Brit.
  Also 7.65x53 Belgian or Argentine Mauser.

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Re: 20 Gauge 32ACP chamber insert/adaptor
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 01:28:14 PM »
I'd still slug any old military barrel to be sure of what it measures, as they do vary, wildly(.005-.007) in some cases.