Author Topic: Single Ten anyone? (Read 4288 times)

Brett · « **on:** June 15, 2011, 05:51:05 PM »

Ruger has introduced a ten shot SA .22lr.

http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSixSingleTen/models.html

Ladobe · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2011, 06:24:24 PM »

No thanks! If a SA doesn't go "clickety-click-click", I don't want it in the first place. All of my SA's are loaded 5. If I can't kill what I'm shooting at in 5 or less, I don't deserve it, and I am certainly not going to throw 5 more Hail Mary's at it.

Ken ONeill · « **Reply #2 on:** June 16, 2011, 01:35:46 AM »

Aw shucks. C'mon now, Ladobe. Despite a few (or more) clickety-clack FA's living at my house, I still think that the New Model Blackhawks and Single Sixes are the greatest invention since... well, revolvers. They can be tuned to perfection.
The question in my mind is whether the ten holes can be drilled with the same precision alignment as six holes ... S&W had their own problems with this, which resulted in their goofy aluminum 10 shot 617 cylinders a few years ago.
In any event, I probably have enough Single Sixes to do me, but if I didn't I'd spring for a Single Ten right now.
Hey, 10 shots, 10 squirrels, right?

Frank V · « **Reply #3 on:** June 16, 2011, 08:31:22 AM »

NO! The Single Six that would interest me would be a .32Mag. converted to .327mag. If the cylinder is long enough? But alas my gun buying funds are at an all time low.
Frank

Ladobe · « **Reply #4 on:** June 16, 2011, 08:55:07 AM »

Just personal preference Ken. The old school SA's have severed me very well all my life, so I see no reason to switch to new fangled gadgets at this late date. Have had a few NM Rugers, didn't care for them so they are all gone. To me a 10-shot SA just doesn't float my boat any more than a 7, 8, 9 or 10 shot DA would. Too many years of making the first shot count I guess.

picturerock · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2011, 09:46:03 AM »

"too many years of making the first shot count." Ladobe

Spoken like a true sage. But with all the truth to that statement, one must also recall that the old models were at one time new as well. I personally don't see a problem with a ten shot, especially in a single six frame, or the 12 shot that USFA makes (other than the price of course),

as long as one still adheres to the "make the first shot count" wisdom mentioned by Ladobe above. These guns are used for more than hunting, an example being plinking, and for that a ten shot cylinder would be ideal. You should also be able to make the first shot count when hunting whether you have six or ten in the cylinder.
I am also very interested in seeing how well Ruger manufactured this revolver, and how accurate it is out of the box. When anyone gets one and has a chance to shoot it, let us know what you find out.

The fine picture above is by Craig in Tennessee, and makes me lust in my heart for a gun like that.

Ladobe · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2011, 10:50:47 AM »

"Spoken like a true sage. But with all the truth to that statement, one must also recall that the old models were at one time new as well."

Well, some of us old dogs don't want or don't feel a need to learn new tricks. Five is enough, whether it be for hunting or plinking. Part of the enjoyment of a "six shooter" is loading/unloading them.

Yes they too were new at one time, but they were still like the traditional SA's, and for some of us that remains their appeal over so called improvements on a platform that didn't need improvements to some of us.

Just personal choice... if I want to shoot a ten shooter I'll simply break out my High Standard HD Military (c. 1947).

L.

Graybeard · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2011, 01:09:34 PM »

This gun is NOT on the single six frame it appears to be a SBH frame. I don't expect it to sell very well once folks actually get one in their hands.

SM Bob · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2011, 07:35:07 PM »

No thanks! The sights on that gun are butt ugly! I don't know what Ruger was thinking when they decided to go with a sight setup like that. Just the standard ones would have been fine or better yet a red ramp front and a white outline rear like the GP 100.

Robert

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2011, 08:33:13 PM »

Not a fan of the high viz sights.
My single 6 si a lot of fun but just as you are dancing the can or golf ball across the range your out of ammo.
the plinkler would like this. The cowboy action guys will not.

sachel.45 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2011, 08:35:15 PM »

Seems like a lot of hate for a gun no ones seen or handled yet. Just going from the picture I like it

44 Man · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2011, 02:48:56 AM »

A 'Single Ten' may be a good idea, but it sure don't have the same ring when you say the name!!! And those sights! What do you do with a front sight like that? Put the red over the target, and can you even use the top of it for precision shooting? And where do you put it? Even with the top of the rear? Or in the middle? Looks to me that all these 'fire sights' lead to very in-exact sighting unless used for up close on a defensive arm. I have a friend that loves them for bowling pins, but to shoot a squirrel at 25 yards? I think not. I'd pass or I'd have to change them to the 'regular' sights. That would be my only reservation. Besides, if I want a 10 shooter .22, I can get a Bounty Hunter for about $300. And my 6 shot, is a real shooter! 44 Man

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2011, 02:57:00 AM »

if i was looking for another 22 single six I guess it just woundnt matter if it were a six shot or ten. the sights would definately need to go though. I detest express sights and detest fiber opic sights. Ive had them on three guns now and they broken on every one of them. Once my fiber optic front sight on a sti trojan broke on me in the middle of a ppc match. It just broke while i was shooting. Cost me a good score for that round and i had to shoot the rest of the match with my backup gun. My 444 marlin had them on till i took the rifle out of the soft case at camp and saw theyd broke on the way to camp. I also had them on a smith 396 and they broke at the range when the gun fell off the bags. No more for me.

flatgate · « **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2011, 03:38:18 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on June 17, 2011, 01:09:34 PM

This gun is NOT on the single six frame it appears to be a SBH frame.

I beg to differ. Look at the below image and compare the Single-Ten with the other Single-Sixes...

Ruger's nomenclature puts the gun in the New Model Single-Six series, as well.

JMHO,

flatgate

Graybeard · « **Reply #14 on:** June 18, 2011, 06:38:50 AM »

Beg to differ all you wish. When you hold one in your hand you'll see it's NOT a single six frame or cylinder as there isn't room in one for that many rounds.

picturerock · « **Reply #15 on:** June 18, 2011, 07:33:13 AM »

Blondes vs. brunettes? Bacon vs. eggs? Single Six vs. Single Ten? Folks here sure have some strong opinions. Guys, a .22 like this is made for cheap shooting fun, knocking down small game and varmints, and such. Why not give it a try, might like it after all? New things aren't necessarily bad things, even if they are a variation on an classic like the SS.

Whew! I think I will go get my old flat gate out and burn some powder.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #16 on:** June 18, 2011, 07:43:42 AM »

Quote from: picturerock on June 18, 2011, 07:33:13 AM

Blondes vs. brunettes? Bacon vs. eggs? Single Six vs. Single Ten? Folks here sure have some strong opinions. Guys, a .22 like this is made for cheap shooting fun, knocking down small game and varmints, and such. Why not give it a try, might like it after all? New things aren't necessarily bad things, even if they are a variation on an classic like the SS.

Whew! I think I will go get my old flat gate out and burn some powder.

I'll try anything new as long as grandad did it first!

The Single ten is going to appeal to some because of the features others do not like. The older I gett and my friends become the more they gravitate to the high viz sights and red dots. I think is going to be form over function. I am sure purists did not like the dove tailed rear sight in your early single six and the 10 shots and the glowing sights will be standard for the next generations and they will look at the old sights as a hinderance.

sachel.45 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 18, 2011, 08:15:10 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on June 18, 2011, 06:38:50 AM

Beg to differ all you wish. When you hold one in your hand you'll see it's NOT a single six frame or cylinder as there isn't room in one for that many rounds.

Not trying to argue or be a pain but have you held one?

44 Man · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2011, 08:52:48 AM »

Well guys, if it is on the Blackhawk frame that ain't necessarily a bad thing. My Bounty Hunter .22 is on a full size frame and as the arthritis gets worse in my hands, the bigger loading gate is a definate plus. It got where I couldn't load my little Bearcat at all without a lot of work involved. These are supposed to be fun after all, if it's hard work, why would we do it. I do appreciate that little bit of extra room for my fingers to work. 44 Man.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #19 on:** June 18, 2011, 10:53:41 AM »

I was under the impresson that it was a single six frame opened up a bit for a bigger cylinder. I could be wrong though as im only passing on other internet talk.

Ladobe · « **Reply #20 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:18:05 AM »

"Seems like a lot of hate for a gun no ones seen or handled yet."

Not hate pard, just personal preference and it's as simple as that. I don't need to handle one to know that I don't want one - matters not what frame it is based on.

I scaled way down and sold most of my SA's the last few years... just don't need all of them anymore. Only kept three, all 3-screw old model Rugers that would do anything I'd ever want to do with a SA again. I wouldn't trade any of my old Rugers for two of any of their new models.

My limited but more than adequate SA stable...
1971 Super Bearcat 22LR, 1969 Single-Six 22MAG (only) and a 1972 Blackhawk 357MAG.

Brett · « **Reply #21 on:** June 18, 2011, 04:50:50 PM »

Guess you guys who all ready decided that you don't like the S-X wouldn't go on a cruise ship or a train trip unless they were powered by steam huh? Well wind up the Victrola, and jot yourself a post card and fire it off to Ruger via pony express telling them what a stupid mistake they made why don't you.

Of course I'm one to talk, I believe that all SAs should be blued steel and that a stainless SA is an abomination. So I guess what it all boils down to is different strokes for different folks.

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 18, 2011, 04:53:49 PM »

Well. the pic posted by flat gaet shows it amongst others that seem of the same dimensions and all under the heading "New Model Single Six". The catalog # indicates it to be a Single Six model and on Ruger's site it is listed with the other New Model Single Sixes. Comparing it to other Single Sixes it's right in the same weight +/- and ounce or two depending on bbl length - just one ounce less than the same model but with a 6-shot cylinder. I'd think a larger framed model would weigh more.

I find it VERY hard to believe they made an entirely new frame size for this.

LunaticFringeInc · « **Reply #23 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:39:07 PM »

the new single 10 weighs 38 ounces compared to 46 and 48 ounces on the black hawk models if I was looking at the correct specs.

If I didnt already have 2 Single Six Convertibles, I might actually consider buying one of these. At this point, it would be really hard for me to justify the expenditure unless I just had an extra 600.00 fun dollars burning a hole in my pants pocket.

goldhound56 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 19, 2011, 09:46:08 AM »

I'll just stay with my Bearcat !!!

Ladobe · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:16:49 PM »

Quote from: Brett on June 18, 2011, 04:50:50 PM

Guess you guys who all ready decided that you don't like the S-X wouldn't go on a cruise ship or a train trip unless they were powered by steam huh? ...

Your analogy is comical... one has nothing to do with the other.

Axehandle · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2011, 02:07:06 PM »

Looks like a Single Six based gun to me! A BH size version won't get it.

wganz · « **Reply #27 on:** June 19, 2011, 02:39:37 PM »

Why? Some of us have had H&R Model 999's for years.

SM Bob · « **Reply #28 on:** June 19, 2011, 07:06:01 PM »

+1 I'm not saying the gun is no good & I'm not hating anything. I'm only giving my opinion. Those sights just don't go with the lines of that gun. They are just plain goofy looking in my opinion.

Robert

Quote from: Ladobe on June 18, 2011, 11:18:05 AM

"Seems like a lot of hate for a gun no ones seen or handled yet."

Not hate pard, just personal preference and it's as simple as that. I don't need to handle one to know that I don't want one - matters not what frame it is based on.

I scaled way down and sold most of my SA's the last few years... just don't need all of them anymore. Only kept three, all 3-screw old model Rugers that would do anything I'd ever want to do with a SA again. I wouldn't trade any of my old Rugers for two of any of their new models.

My limited but more than adequate SA stable...
1971 Super Bearcat 22LR, 1969 Single-Six 22MAG (only) and a 1972 Blackhawk 357MAG.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2011, 07:03:04 AM »

44, I'll be glad to 'exercise' your Bearcat, just send 'er over

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