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[Heather]

This is a joke right?

It is no joke. A Man of God has been assaulted for preaching against a Death Cult, and you dismiss it? That's the way the perverts want it in this country!

This is serious - so serious, it now gets its own thread:
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,236591.0.html

This is serious, Heather, and I do not appreciate you making light of it. Yeah, the guy survived the assault and he'll heal, but what about the next time?

WOW! I thought you were being facetious.  You will just have to understand that I DO NOT view homosexuals or any other group of people as a group. I prefer to judge people on who they are and not what color their skin is, who they bed, or what path to God they choose. I do NOT see a hate cult attacking a Man of God. I see an lady assaulting a man. I only see it as assault because the man says the hug and kiss on the cheek were unwanted. If you want to use this news story to predict a war between Christians and Homosexuals then so be it, but I will have to see some actual evidence of evil intentions before I label all Homosexuals as a death cult with the goal of eradicating all the "Men of God."

[Heather]

.....If you are born on US soil whether your parents are citizens or not, then you are a citizen, but a "natural born citizen" by its definition is children born to parents (plural) that are American citizens.

No, that is your definition.  Here's mine: a child born via natural birth, i.e., a C-section child can't be president.  Adopted children of uncertain male parentage can't be president.  All candidates for the office of POTUS must present DNA evidence that the father listed on their birth certificate is their biological father. 

Unreasonable, huh?  Well, that's the can of worms you open if your definition becomes law.

Ummm..it isn't MY definition. It is the definition established through the CONSTITUTION and through the US SUPREME COURT. It IS ALREADY LAW! You can make up whatever criteria you want, but until it is law it doesn't mean crap!

[yellowtail3]

WOW! I thought you were being facetious. 

[Heather]

WOW! I thought you were being facetious. 

Kinda looks like ya! 

[Junior1942]

.....If you are born on US soil whether your parents are citizens or not, then you are a citizen, but a "natural born citizen" by its definition is children born to parents (plural) that are American citizens.

No, that is your definition.  Here's mine: a child born via natural birth, i.e., a C-section child can't be president.  Adopted children of uncertain male parentage can't be president.  All candidates for the office of POTUS must present DNA evidence that the father listed on their birth certificate is their biological father. 

Unreasonable, huh?  Well, that's the can of worms you open if your definition becomes law.

Ummm..it isn't MY definition. It is the definition established through the CONSTITUTION and through the US SUPREME COURT. It IS ALREADY LAW! You can make up whatever criteria you want, but until it is law it doesn't mean crap!

Wrong.  See http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

[Heather]

.....If you are born on US soil whether your parents are citizens or not, then you are a citizen, but a "natural born citizen" by its definition is children born to parents (plural) that are American citizens.

No, that is your definition.  Here's mine: a child born via natural birth, i.e., a C-section child can't be president.  Adopted children of uncertain male parentage can't be president.  All candidates for the office of POTUS must present DNA evidence that the father listed on their birth certificate is their biological father. 

Unreasonable, huh?  Well, that's the can of worms you open if your definition becomes law.

Ummm..it isn't MY definition. It is the definition established through the CONSTITUTION and through the US SUPREME COURT. It IS ALREADY LAW! You can make up whatever criteria you want, but until it is law it doesn't mean crap!

Wrong.  See http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

I bow down to your reasoning sir! Since Snopes is  obviously more relevant than SCOTUS, then you must be right!

Naturalization Act of 1790 (expressly defining the term "natural born citizen" as a person born on US soil or abroad to parents who are United States citizens.

[Junior1942]

.....If you are born on US soil whether your parents are citizens or not, then you are a citizen, but a "natural born citizen" by its definition is children born to parents (plural) that are American citizens.

No, that is your definition.  Here's mine: a child born via natural birth, i.e., a C-section child can't be president.  Adopted children of uncertain male parentage can't be president.  All candidates for the office of POTUS must present DNA evidence that the father listed on their birth certificate is their biological father. 

Unreasonable, huh?  Well, that's the can of worms you open if your definition becomes law.

Ummm..it isn't MY definition. It is the definition established through the CONSTITUTION and through the US SUPREME COURT. It IS ALREADY LAW! You can make up whatever criteria you want, but until it is law it doesn't mean crap!

Wrong.  See http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

I bow down to your reasoning sir! Since Snopes is  obviously more relevant than SCOTUS, then you must be right!

Naturalization Act of 1790 (expressly defining the term "natural born citizen" as a person born on US soil or abroad to parents who are United States citizens.

Snopes lists all the relevant SCOTUS cases.  Read them. 

[powderman]

His official birth certificate states that his father was a citizen of Kenya and NOT America. Therefore, he is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL president by its very definition.


HEATHER. BINGO. POWDERMAN. 

[gypsyman]

Heather your totally right. Obama's actions are sending this country straight down hill. Doesn't matter where he was born. What most here worry about, and rightfully so, isn't what he is doing, but what to expect from the mindless people that voted for him. His actions are setting up this country for a major change, and not for the good.
We've started to see the actions of his people in the form of flash mobs, it will get tremendously worse in the coming years. We're just in the beginning stage's of a long down hill slide for this country. gypsyman

[powderman]

Heather your totally right. Obama's actions are sending this country straight down hill. Doesn't matter where he was born. What most here worry about, and rightfully so, isn't what he is doing, but what to expect from the mindless people that voted for him. His actions are setting up this country for a major change, and not for the good.
We've started to see the actions of his people in the form of flash mobs, it will get tremendously worse in the coming years. We're just in the beginning stage's of a long down hill slide for this country. gypsyman




YEP, all part of his plan for destroying us. POWDERMAN.