Author Topic: Damning Evidence and Research ... On Pentagon Attack (Read 4803 times)

TM7 · « **on:** June 29, 2011, 10:05:09 AM »

According to Citizen Investigation Team there is absolutely no way pentacon attack could have happened according
to the Official Conspiracy Theory version......fyi....TM7

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

video presents the case.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 29, 2011, 03:58:10 PM »

From what my cousin and thousands of other eye witnesses saw. It did happen as they said.

Matt · « **Reply #2 on:** June 29, 2011, 05:45:50 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on June 29, 2011, 03:58:10 PM

From what my cousin and thousands of other eye witnesses saw. It did happen as they said.

Did you watch the video? truthfully did you watch the video. If you did not then again I say you are blinded by your own hate.

A key person in the whole mess admitted that it was above him and planned.
Lloyde England & His Taxi Cab have broken this thing wide open. If after you have watched this video you too may even be able to see the light on the other side fade to dark.

Oh yeah and your cousin may even have been right, he may well have seen the plane just depends on where he was at when it passed over.

This is by far the most damning video I have seen in all the years I have been researching this. It was even enough to make my 18yr old son who was adamant that I was a nut job about 9/11 look me in the eyes and tell me "Dad you may very well be right".

Matt

billy_56081 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2011, 05:51:35 PM »

Matt I'll stick with what my cousin Mark told me he saw.

powderman · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2011, 06:36:04 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on June 29, 2011, 03:58:10 PM

From what my cousin and thousands of other eye witnesses saw. It did happen as they said.

BILLY. YEP, but do you really believe folks that were there?? Or the hate America crowd?? ?? POWDERMAN.

Matt · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2011, 08:52:33 PM »

Charlie, I just dont understand you. Is it just because TM7 made the post that you jump right on with your totally unsubstantiated remark about a hate America crowd?
Who is this crowd and what makes you think that this video has anything to do with such a crowd?

Wait a minute holly crap I think I just had an epiphany. OK Charlie I get it now... You did watch the video. So what you are saying is that you do not believe the folks that were there and are going to follow the hate America crowd with Billy.

But what I cant quite wrap my head around is this, ( Please note that my next comments may piss off a lot of folks here and all I can say is GOOD as it SHOULD and maybe it will piss you off enough to get off your ass and do a little research of your own )

Here at GBO we have a very diverse crowd of people it would seem. Often it seems that the only thing people even have in common is the fact that they like guns in some degree and even that varies. It really saddens me that I cant say that another area we all agree on is we love our country ( Those of us in America ). It also saddens me to think that there are people here on this website that were willing to give their life for this country that now sit back and try to pretend that there is not a problem and nothing needs to be done or investigated.

Lets look at a word for a minute:
pa·tri·ot [pey-tree-uht, -ot or, especially Brit., pa-tree-uht]

1. a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.
2. a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

Origin:
1590–1600; < Middle French patriote < Late Latin patriōta < Greek patriṓtēs fellow-countryman, lineage member

OK so with that we have established that a patriot is not someone who buys into everything the government says without question or at least I think we have anyway.

So for a person to say another hates America would infer that they are anti patriotic. So it baffles me how the patriotic actions of some can be construed as hate America when in fact it is those who stand in the way of a NEW and FULL INDEPENDENT investigation into what really happen from start to finish on 9-11-2001 that by their actions infer they hate America and are the true anti patriots.

Now before anyone goes and gets all upset I want you to think about a few things that can not be disputed as they are a matter of public record.

Close to 3 thousand of our fellow Americans died on 9-11-2001.

The people chosen to investigate the "Attack" stated on record that they were being deceived by those giving them the information from which they were supposed to reach a conclusion from and one of them even quit and came right out and said it was a cover up.

The government lied to the 9-11 rescue workers and clean up crews telling them there was no risk to their health when in fact there was and many of them are dead a mere 10 years later.

There was an investigation set to begin on 9-11 in the exact part of the pentagon that was "Hit" by a plane destroying all the records there by ending the investigation before it even started.

WTC7 a 47 story skyscraper fell perfectly in on itself later that afternoon from very minimal damage to the building. This building housed ALL records on the Enron and Worldcom scandal's for the SEC investigation which were dropped after 9-11. Also other notables about building 7 is the FACT that BBC reported it had collapsed 20 minutes before it really did.
Then there is Larry Silverstein with his PBS interview whereas he said "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse".
There are also several videos of the firefighters and police telling others to keep and eye on the building cause it is coming down all the while a countdown can be heard in the background.
We have Bush saying "he saw the first plane hit on tv and was thinking to himself wow what a lousy pilot " when in fact there was no coverage of the first plane because this was a surprise attack remember.

The point I am making is that just one of the above facts should be enough to make a person who really loves this country question the official story and demand to know what the hell happened to their fellow Americans and who the hell is responsible for their deaths. As well as why the hell it is that we are loosing our rights over here when we are fighting elsewhere?

You guys say what you want, leave GBO if you want but the fact is if you are not questioning what your government is doing to you and others as they take your rights you have NO patriotism to America.

Matt

rwng · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2011, 05:11:40 AM »

Come on guys. The U.S. is the only evil empire that exists in this era. Any "so called accomplishments" are total B.S.. The only thing to come from the west is dark, synical and oppressive. The moon landing was faked, the WTC was an inside job, the attack on the pentagon was an inside job. Quit questioning the global warming, er climate change. BHO is the only answer, work your a$$ off and pay your taxes without question. We need to GIVE the lazy, drug abusing and ignorant, a step up. Only crimminals have rights, don't you dare defend yourself or your property. It is not our place to question the glorious Dems on the left. They are the ONLY human beings who know the secret of life. Don't be brainwashed by the tyrannical, GOD loving, right wing, conservative, capitalistic, racists.

Does talk like this infuriate and sicken anyone else besides me??

powderman · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:57:17 AM »

MATT. Just for you I watched it. I feel like I wasted almost an hr and 1/2. I'll give you the approach, no big deal. No way in hell I'll ever believe that the plane didn't hit the pentagon. If what this video said was true then where did flight #77 land?? Where are the people?? Are they captives in area 51??
As far as the hate America crowd statement have you EVER heard tm say ANYTHING good about America?? And no, I don't believe anything that comes from tm. POWDERMAN.

Matt · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2011, 09:35:03 AM »

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 06:57:17 AM

MATT. Just for you I watched it.

Charlie, now isn't that sweet you watched it just for me. Well I hoped you would watch it for you and your family and friends as well as the rest of America. But if it was just for me then OK at least you watched it.

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 06:57:17 AM

I feel like I wasted almost an hr and 1/2.

Wasted an hour and a half... OK.

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 06:57:17 AM

I'll give you the approach, no big deal. No way in hell I'll ever believe that the plane didn't hit the pentagon.

Well hot dog, your eyes have been partially opened now lets see if we can get you to see the big picture.

By your own admission you just agreed that the OFFICIAL Story CAN NOT BE TRUE.

If you give me the approach then you take away the only thing that could make the official story even plausible.

If the approach was not as the official story claims then EVERYTHING ELSE IS IMPOSSIBLE.

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 06:57:17 AM

If what this video said was true then where did flight #77 land?? Where are the people?? Are they captives in area 51??

Hold on Charlie, see now you are trying to divert attention from the fact that the OFFICIAL STORY is a lie and shift it to some cockamamie BS as to where did the passengers go... We have yet to verify that there were passengers on the plane at this point. So until we do lets not even worry with such.

Not one person said they saw AA77 they said it was a commercial jet. So who is to say that the perpetrators of this mess did not have access to a commercial jet to use for a flyover after all if the implications shown here are true then like it or not there were people in our government that knew about this and may have even planned it.

Also if you have read any of the Official reports then you will realize that Lloyde England was a key part of this deception and then the man admitted that is was BIGGER THAN HIM, IT IS FOR PEOPLE WITH MONEY, THIS WAS THEIR THING not to mention the class he took weeks before 9-11 on how to deal with conspiracy accusations. Come on the man and his wife WHO WERE THERE AND PART OF IT ADMIT it was an inside job.

So Charlie, do you feel that we need a full independent investigation to what really happened on 9-11? Do you think that the families of the nearly 3k people who died on that day deserve to know if members of our government had a hand in this in any way?

I admit it hurts my heart to think that members of this country would harm others in a way such as 9-11 but when you look at where we are as a country and the politics and greed involved it is not hard to believe it possible.

Matt

powderman · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2011, 10:26:11 AM »

MATT. Ibelieve that old man was coaxed to say what the maker of that film wanted him to say. One man said, that somebody said they saw a plane flying away. I'm not going to watch another 1 1/2 hours to verify it. Do I believe everything the govt says?? Of course not, especially this administration. I think somebody spent a lot of time and money on this and proved nothing except that the plane did indeed fly like the witnesses said it did. I never read an OFFICIAL version of the flight path, only what tm posted and I put no faith in that. Now, once again I ask. What happened to flight #77 and the people on it?? POWDERMAN.

Matt · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2011, 10:31:52 AM »

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-can_north_side_plane_hit.html

Check out the above link and then you will understand that if you do believe the folks who saw then plane then nothing the official
reports say can be true.

Matt

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2011, 12:57:08 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on June 29, 2011, 03:58:10 PM

From what my cousin and thousands of other eye witnesses saw. It did happen as they said.

Billy you didn't watch the video. The all witnesses on the video, except for two, say about the same thing Mark said. Almost all the witnesses believed they saw the plane that hit the Pentagon. Because we can verify were they were, and what they saw, we can put all the testimonies together to find the truth.

powderman · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2011, 01:10:14 PM »

It would be nearly impossible for somebody to drop those light poles where you guys say the plane never was without a bunch of people seeing it. Say what you want but theres no doubt in my mind that flight #77 did take off and hit the pentagon killing all aboard. POWDERMAN.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2011, 01:47:41 PM »

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 01:10:14 PM

It would be nearly impossible for somebody to drop those light poles where you guys say the plane never was without a bunch of people seeing it. Say what you want but theres no doubt in my mind that flight #77 did take off and hit the pentagon killing all aboard. POWDERMAN.

First you admit the North flight path. By admitting the North flight path you admit the damage could not have been caused by a plane. It doesn’t really matter if the plane hit or not on the North path. But one worker on the loading dock saw the commercial airliner heading toward the airport after the explosion.

Now it looks like you are saying all the witnesses are lying. Only the taxi driver and his story about the light pole changes. The rest stand by their testimony without change.

Matt · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:22:42 PM »

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 01:10:14 PM

It would be nearly impossible for somebody to drop those light poles where you guys say the plane never was without a bunch of people seeing it. Say what you want but theres no doubt in my mind that flight #77 did take off and hit the pentagon killing all aboard. POWDERMAN.

Really it has been admitted that THE ROAD WAS CLOSED TO TRAFFIC yet Lloyd found himself on it... He said repeatedly that there was no other cars on the road until the Silent Stranger and then nobody after that. If the road was closed then yes it is very possible for the light poles to have bee placed there.

But you know what lets not debate whether the plane could have knocked the poles. Rather lets debate whether or not a plane flying at 540 knots could hit a 40ft 250lb light pole spearing it through the window of a car running at 40mph in the opposite direction and then said car slam on the brakes and skid sideways with 35ft of the pole sticking out of the window and the pole never move or even put a single scratch on the car. Oh and remember the damage inside the car was minimal with a broken front seat left side retainer and only a small tear in the back seat and a minor dent in the dash reenforcement.
I say NO.... What say you?

Matt

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:46:43 PM »

HEH. Ever wonder why it took all these years to come up with some of these FACTS?? I believe that on 9-11-01 a group of 19 godless, subhuman, sobs stole 4 fully loaded planes and used them as missles as they crashed them screaming allah akhbar murdering 3,000 innocent American civilians and sent themselves to hell. I do not believe the govt was involved in any way.
Now, timothy mcveigh?? Yes, I do believe that the fbi and or cia was in on the bombing in Oklahoma city. Believe what ya want guys. POWDERMAN.

Matt · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2011, 07:22:33 PM »

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #17 on:** July 01, 2011, 02:12:11 AM »

Quote from: powderman on June 30, 2011, 04:46:43 PM

HEH. Ever wonder why it took all these years to come up with some of these FACTS?? I believe that on 9-11-01 a group of 19 godless, subhuman, sobs stole 4 fully loaded planes and used them as missles as they crashed them screaming allah akhbar murdering 3,000 innocent American civilians and sent themselves to hell. I do not believe the govt was involved in any way.
Now, timothy mcveigh?? Yes, I do believe that the fbi and or cia was in on the bombing in Oklahoma city. Believe what ya want guys. POWDERMAN.

Sorry Powderman I can't believe what I want. I have to find the truth. You are certainty entitled to believe what you want, but I have to find the truth. You can ignore evidence when it doesn't fit what you want to believe, but I have to use that evidence to find the truth.

powderman · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2011, 01:11:43 PM »

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The moslems were patsies....in this case.

Not hardly. All this stuff is brought up, truthful or not, to take the blame away from the cult of hatred and death that caused it and to blame AMERICA for killing it's own. Scientifically a bumble bee cannot fly. POWDERMAN.

rwng · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2011, 04:30:57 PM »

Quote from: powderman on July 01, 2011, 01:11:43 PM

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The moslems were patsies....in this case.

Not hardly. All this stuff is brought up, truthful or not, to take the blame away from the cult of hatred and death that caused it and to blame AMERICA for killing it's own. Scientifically a bumble bee cannot fly. POWDERMAN.

Also, according to physics, the F-4 Phantom can't fly. I guess all the film footage of these fighters from Vietnam and beyond, is all a conspiracy and faked for some plan that will soon rear it's ugly head.

suba · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2011, 04:37:31 PM »

Such a pity we all have eyes yet many refuse to see......

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #21 on:** July 02, 2011, 02:56:20 AM »

Quote from: powderman on July 01, 2011, 01:11:43 PM

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The moslems were patsies....in this case.

Not hardly. All this stuff is brought up, truthful or not, to take the blame away from the cult of hatred and death that caused it and to blame AMERICA for killing it's own. Scientifically a bumble bee cannot fly. POWDERMAN.

Not blaming America. Blaming the NWO secrete society JFK warned us about just before he was shot. They have infiltrated every part of our government as well as most other governments. They control most intelligence agencies around the world. Al qaeda is an asset they use. Why are we supporting al qaeda in Libya? The Muslims are just as deceived as we are. The NWO goals are one world government and genocide on a scale never seen before.

WW3 started on 9/11/2001. It was a false flag black op done by intelligence agencies from America, England, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. The master minds were Rothschilds and Rockafellers not KSM. The goals were to start WW3 first in Iraq and Afghanistan now spreading though out the middle East. To use the fake war on terror to overthrow the American people and the constitution. Bankrupt the United States and cause an economic collapse.

Evidence of this is the actions of the TSA, operation gun runner and fast and furious.

Pasties don't know they are patsies. If they did they wouldn't be patsies. Not Lee Harvey Oswald, not Timothy McVeigh, not the underwear bomber and not the patsies on 911.

S.S. · « **Reply #22 on:** July 02, 2011, 05:48:41 AM »

Man, I thought I was paranoid!

reading this thread is kind of a relief,
I am not as bad off as I thought.

Casull · « **Reply #23 on:** July 02, 2011, 06:42:30 AM »

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Man, I thought I was paranoid!
reading this thread is kind of a relief,
I am not as bad off as I thought.

powderman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 02, 2011, 11:35:03 AM »

Quote from: S.S. on July 02, 2011, 05:48:41 AM

Man, I thought I was paranoid!
reading this thread is kind of a relief,
I am not as bad off as I thought.

HEH. POWDERMAN.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #25 on:** July 03, 2011, 02:12:47 AM »

Quote from: S.S. on July 02, 2011, 05:48:41 AM

Man, I thought I was paranoid!
reading this thread is kind of a relief,
I am not as bad off as I thought.

I was not aware that facing the truth made one paranoid.

There is a lot of evidence for every thing I wrote, if you are willing to look for it.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #26 on:** July 03, 2011, 03:09:19 PM »

Quote from: rwng on July 01, 2011, 04:30:57 PM

Quote from: powderman on July 01, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
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The moslems were patsies....in this case.

Not hardly. All this stuff is brought up, truthful or not, to take the blame away from the cult of hatred and death that caused it and to blame AMERICA for killing it's own. Scientifically a bumble bee cannot fly. POWDERMAN.

Also, according to physics, the F-4 Phantom can't fly. I guess all the film footage of these fighters from Vietnam and beyond, is all a conspiracy and faked for some plan that will soon rear it's ugly head.

Is this really the best you 911 truth scoffers can come up with?

A well done investigation. Multiple very creditable witnesses. Pin point accuracy showing an undeniable flight path. Internal damage to the Pentagon could not possibly be done by a plane flying this path. Not one witness sees the plane hit the Pentagon. At this point it doesn't matter if the plane hit or not, because most of the damage could not have been caused by a plane on the flight path. Something other than a plane had to cause most of the damage. Then a creditable witnesses sees the plane after flying over the Pentagon turn toward the airport.

Now can't you come up with a better rebuttal than somebodies opinion that bees and F4s can't fly? I want to see preponderance of the evidence and facts. Not opinions especially completely unrelated opinions. What does the flight capabilities of bees have to do with the attack on the Pentagon? And please don't bring in big foots, aliens, chupacabras, Elvis or lunar landings. They have absolutely nothing to do with 911 truth or the attack on the Pentagon.

Now how do you prove all the Pentagon damage was caused by only one plane and no other explosions?

Casull · « **Reply #27 on:** July 03, 2011, 06:25:47 PM »

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What does the flight capabilities of bees have to do with the attack on the Pentagon?

You must have been sleeping during the dozens of claims that the plane couldn't fly that close to the ground at that speed.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #28 on:** July 04, 2011, 02:14:18 AM »

Quote from: sidewinder319 on July 03, 2011, 06:54:15 PM

Seems like only yesterday when the Clinton plots were discovered. The left wingers yelled and laughed at anyone who suggested the Clintons were involved in cover ups. Even after a couple of strange suicides they protected the Clintons. Now they come up with this area 51 story.

Hum. It's not about chupacabras, it's not about a big foot or a lunar landing, but are you sure you posted this on the right thread? What does it have to do with the Pentagon attack?

Yes the murders of James McDugal and Vince Foster and many others were to cover up for the Clintons, but were the Clintons involved in the Pentagon attack?

You are not addressing the evidence presented in any way.

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #29 on:** July 04, 2011, 02:57:23 AM »

Quote from: Casull on July 03, 2011, 06:25:47 PM

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What does the flight capabilities of bees have to do with the attack on the Pentagon?

You must have been sleeping during the dozens of claims that the plane couldn't fly that close to the ground at that speed.

My understanding is those claims were made by professional pilots. They were made very early before there was a 911 truth movement. The claims were that they didn't think they could actually hit the Pentagon. The evidence in the video says the plane flew over so it supports the pilots claims.

Now as far as bees are concerned. I have about a half a million of them. I love to watch them learn to fly. I call it flight school. First a few of the older ladies stand on the landing board and shake their little buts. Then the youngsters will start buzzing around a few inches behind the older ladies behinds. Then they start flying in circles. The circles get bigger and bigger until they fly away. There was an especially good one a few weeks ago. I was standing 10 feet in front of the hives. There were thousands of bees in the air. They were flying all around me in every direction. None of them hit me. I say the little bugs fly pretty good. I am sure the damage to the Pentagon was not caused by bees.

I still don't see what the flight capabilities of bees have to do with the attack on the Pentagon.