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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2011, 06:07:15 PM »
Scatter-Suprised  your 160 horn RN came apart that slow, but it ain't a Nosler PT. see my post above about the 175 Horn. RN.,  I was going to use an old Western tool & Copper cavity point in my 7x57 but ended up using a 115 Barnes triple X 115 gr in a 25-06. Mine was at about 35 yds and got the full length of the left lung and out the right rear under the backstrap (4 pt) and he went about 70 yds (not suprise'd w/only 1 lung). My son used the same rifle/load and double lung'ed (a little far back but got both) a larger body 3pt (both western count) at right at 300 yds  and it ran about another 300 yds at right angles to the left in the direction it was pointed in plain sight (thank goodness for 6" of snow!) as hard as it could go and finally ran out'a steam. I have never seen one bleed that much and run in such a straight line for so far. When hit he jumped straight up ( thought it was a heart shot) and ran flat out. was amazed that he went the first 50 feet!, let alone 300 yds. Jerky is in the dehydrator as I type. All it says is that you never know what will happen when you pull the trigger -Muddy 

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2011, 04:46:43 PM »
Well, she got her Elk!! One shot at 200 yds. & the Nos. Partition did it's job. It was a great hunt & we enjoyed it tremendously. We havn't been home long & I have some work issues to take care of, I will post info when I can. Funny how being gone a week can put you 2 weeks behind. Thanks for all of your input.
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2011, 05:01:15 PM »
Congratulations to the hunter and all the support "crew"!  I can't wait to hear the full story.
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2011, 06:11:49 PM »
Awesome! I've been following this thread the entire time, glad it worked out. 200yds is a piece, what a great shot.

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2011, 07:38:31 AM »
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2011, 01:28:19 PM »
congratulations! looking forward to the rest of the story! ;D

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2011, 07:53:18 AM »
 :) glad things went well...congradulations...

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2011, 11:07:12 AM »
Yep, a happy wife makes a satisfied husband. ;D ;D
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2011, 02:19:38 AM »
Inquiring minds want to know????????? We are still waiting on the information on which load you picked and the story about the hunt.  ;D

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2011, 09:25:31 AM »
You got to give the man time to recover. ;) ;D ;D
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2011, 01:23:20 PM »
You got to give the man time to recover. ;) ;D ;D

I am fine, like I said before , I am very behind at work. It looks like I may have time to tell the story this weekend, certainly within a week.
 
The load was a 140 Partition, Nosler brass, Win. primers & H4831SC.
 
I am looking forward to telling the tale as well!!  ;)
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2011, 05:52:26 PM »
I am also hunting with you guys on this one! We need every detail from load development
to the actual hunt!  ;D

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
You got it!

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2011, 03:53:07 AM »
I have two calibers in swedes-6.5x55 loaded with 140 gr bullets for deer and 9,3x57,loaded with 286 gr soft nosed Privi partizans only moving at 2000fps-but hits like the hammer of Thor for moose.Detractors  say its ''only good for 250yd shots''-but ALL my shots are well UNDER 100 yards.

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2012, 04:11:02 PM »
Thanks, she is very excited about it. She's doing alot of walking now & some light weightlifting
to get ready.

This is were the hunt starts, I just love it!!  ;D   
 
 
(I think I might be addicted to this whole hunting thing!! )

Sweet 6.5, indeed, this is where the hunt starts. She did a great deal of walking & getting in shape for the hunt. You do not have the altitude of the Rockies there of course, but some of the slopes are comparable for sure. While she was getting in shape she was Deer hunting as well when time allowed & took a nice Doe with the load I worked up (more on that later). We gave up some Deer hunting weekends for Elk scouting, time well spent, as we have alot of time to kill Deer, she will be out to fill a Buck or Doe tag with a crossbow now, season ends at the end of Feb. ;D
 
We made 3 scouting trips, the first was Sat. Nov. 5th, then we went back for a 2 day scouting the Fri. & Sat. following Thanksgiving & the weekend before the hunt. I can tell you that the first trip & and to a lessor degree the second trip was dissapointing, as we saw very little sign. After talking to some of the Forestry people & Wardens things cleared up a little. It appears the Elk have really taken a liking to the large White oak acorns in the area, which scattered the herds greatly. Yes, they are grazers as a rule, but they are hitting those acorns a little more all the time. Right before the season started, during that last scouting trip, the weather turned cold (by AR standards). very wet, but now it had that wintry feel & the oats & others foods were coming up in those fields & the Elk started hitting the plots.
 
To give you a little better feel for the area, I want to show a few pics. Keep in mind many of these were taken during our earlier trips, hense the fall colors.

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
As you can see, the weather changed dramatically, from the 70's to the 30's for highs. The next to the last pic is one of the small plots that the Elk & Deer really started hitting. The last is the one lane road that we took as a back door with the last house before going in, the other route was WAY under water. The large fields in the other pics are hay fields along the river, there is no vehicle access except for LE/Rangers except in the summer, when they let farmers go down the mountain to cut hay. After that, they seed Oats & other Elk/Deer food & close the gates at the top of the mountain. The countryside above the mountains is timber.
 
My wife did alot of shooting to get ready for the hunt. I asked her to shoot sitting, standing, leaning against trees left side, right side, you name it. Then I had her do some bench shooting, to gain confidence, the little of that she did resulted in some near 1 MOA groups. I used Nosler brass, 140 Gr. Nosler Partition & 46.0 gr. H4831SC with Win Large rifle primers. The throat is crazy long as most Swedish Mausers are, so I loaded to near mag length & seated the bullets where the base was about even with shoulder/neck junction, pretty cool. I often wonder how much we have really advanced with rifle technology whenever I shoot her rifle. I have paid many times more money to get rifles that don't do as well & only a couple that do marginally better.
 
The following is a group that says it all, the calipers are showing outside to outside. Fluke, maybe, but I expect 1/2"-3/4" with this load.
 

 
The Hunt: Day 1, we went down the mountain and set up a blind before daylight overlooking a food plot with alot of sign, again they had just started on these fields with the cold. The rain really started falling, then the rain tuned to sleet & then snow, which stuck. It was a wild morning, but we were dry in the blind. We saw no Elk. We came out at mid day and went to the campground. My brothers arrived & we set up camp. A Warden stopped by & told us he saw a herd of about 75 in one of the fields. We decided to go below that spot & I asked my brothers to watch from a cliff some fields & glass. We saw no Elk, but my brothers saw a larger herd down in one of those fields alittle before dark. We went down there the next morning, we saw no Elk in that field & decided to spot & stalk in the next fields along the river. When we entered the edge of the 3rd field, we saw a small herd. BTW, one was a very nice Bull, but we started planning a way to get close (I wanted her within 250 yds.) & made a stalk. As we snuck from cover to cover, it was clear the Elk spotted us & had about enough. As they started to leave, I bent down alittle, grabbed my knees & asked her to shoot off my shoulder.
The practice paid off, the Elk was just under 200yds. broadside & she drilled the center of the shoulder. The Elk did not show much reaction to the shot, but it smacked load & I saw it was a good hit. As the others started to leave, I could see this one could not run.
She took a few feeble hops & fell over. The nice thing about this hunt is the Wardens will bring an ATV/Tractor whatever it takes to get the Elk out IF it goes down in a plot. If you get on on the slopes in the timber, you quarter it & you are on your own. We called the Wardens & they came down & we loaded it. The Elk weighed 445#. They weighed it, gutted it & cut the head off. They send blood samples, part of inards & head off for testing. If you have a Bull tag, they don't have to take the head I understand & will work with you if you want a mount. The pic of the Elk on the ground is from my phone (sorry) as we did not take our camera, but the other pics came out nice.
 

 

 

 

           
I was very proud of my Bride, it was a great hunt & the meat is good too!!
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2012, 02:29:05 AM »
Oh, forgot to mention, the Partition busted both front "shoulders" as we call them & exited with the small hole I come to expect from that fine bullet. The tissue damage was adaquate but not excessive. I think this will be the last load I need to develop for this rifle.
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2012, 03:24:48 AM »
 Congratulations on a good hunt.
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2012, 05:55:45 AM »
Awesome hunt and story!! Just great thank you very much for sharing and please tell your
wife great shooting.
 
(I am now in month 7 of waiting for my my new 6.5x55 license.)

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2012, 04:14:52 PM »
Awesome hunt and story!! Just great thank you very much for sharing and please tell your
wife great shooting.
 
(I am now in month 7 of waiting for my my new 6.5x55 license.)

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2012, 05:49:23 PM »
Thanks for the story and pictures.  And I am glad to hear that the rifle and load performed well for you wife.  What a thrill that must have been for both of you!
 
Wow, a frontloader to retrieve elk!  If you ever get to do the "on your own" retrieval it becomes a totally different experience. ;)
 
I may have to try your load.  It sure seems to be the ticket for your rifle.
 
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #79 on: January 16, 2012, 01:32:37 PM »
Thanks for the story and pictures.  And I am glad to hear that the rifle and load performed well for you wife.  What a thrill that must have been for both of you!
 
Wow, a frontloader to retrieve elk!  If you ever get to do the "on your own" retrieval it becomes a totally different experience. ;)
 
I may have to try your load.  It sure seems to be the ticket for your rifle.
 
Congratulations from an ol' Missouri boy out West.

Thanks a bunch!!  Yes, I have hunted them in CO, we had Horses to help, but in NM, it was just a quarter & pack out deal. And it is in this AR hunt too, unless you down one in a food plot that they can get an ATV to & take out the whole animal, she & I was lucky it happened that way. That herd went up the mountain into the Oaks after that shot, later someone got on from that herd & they had to quarter it out & pack up the mountain.
That pic. of the skinned carcass is at our shop with lttle brother's Tractor.
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2012, 02:12:24 PM »
Great story, just logged in and saw it. I am  a 6.5x55 fanatic, built over 100 of them as a  gunsmith. My wif got drawn here in KY in 2009, got a bull tag. Ky will only let you use a .270 or better, I built here a Savage with a muzzle break, shooting 150 grain interlocks. She shot her bull the first day on public land, at 150 yds, using a boulder as a rest, broke his neck and dropped him in his tracks, #700 bull! I was very proud of her also, congrats to you and the wife, aint no finer eatin than elk!!

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2012, 12:27:49 PM »
Great story, just logged in and saw it. I am  a 6.5x55 fanatic, built over 100 of them as a  gunsmith. My wif got drawn here in KY in 2009, got a bull tag. Ky will only let you use a .270 or better, I built here a Savage with a muzzle break, shooting 150 grain interlocks. She shot her bull the first day on public land, at 150 yds, using a boulder as a rest, broke his neck and dropped him in his tracks, #700 bull! I was very proud of her also, congrats to you and the wife, aint no finer eatin than elk!!

And congrats to you and your Wife. I heard Kentucky has a great Elk program!!
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« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2012, 04:48:12 PM »
With 800 drawn permits each year, and another 200 nuisance tags to landowners in the restoration zone, plus roadkills, the herd is very stable between 11,000 and 12,000 animal. Bulls here in 3 years, will be as big as 8 year olds out west, horns and maybe bigger bodies. The winters are easy, and food plentiful, lots of cows have twins, unheard of out west. For $10, you can put in the lotter, and enter twice, just go to the KY f&w website. Best deal around to elk hunt. I have put in every year, no luck, wife must have used it up, she would not even put in, too big of a tight wad, so I entered her, go figure. And in 2010, her brother got drawn, got a 5x5, small, but hell an elk. One of my buddies also got drawn, killed a nice 6x6 that went a little over 300 inches. We go over and watch them every fall where we know they are, man it is something to listen to them bugle, never would havle thougt I woudl hear that in my lifetime.

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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2012, 04:54:20 PM »
Very impressive!
 
I think we are going back to the Buffalo to view a herd if we ca. It's a great area, with good Whitetails, Hogs, Bears, Turkeys, all kind of criters in the same spot.
 
 
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Re: 6.5x55 Cow elk
« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2012, 04:45:14 PM »
Great story and hunt for both of you. You are both very lucky to have each other and will remember this hunt for the rest of your lives. Great job done well.