Author Topic: Hunt Sunday????? IT'S TIME!!!!!!!!! (Read 3343 times)

Bingo · « **on:** July 01, 2011, 06:04:39 PM »

I just read on the Pa. Game commission web site that the commision just passed their approval and recomendation of the repeal the No Hunting on Sunday law. Although the vote was close, IT PASSED!!!!!
NOW is the time to call your state Rep or Senator in support of this legislation. If you want to hunt with your kids, If you want to double your time in the woods, CALL YOUR REP'S NOW.
I CAUGHT A SPOT ON THIS YESTERDAY ON THE NEWS BUT DIDN'T QUITE SEE ENOUGH OF IT TO CATCH THE WHOLE THING. I LOOKED IT UP ON LINE ON THE PA. GAME COMMISH WEB SITE AND THERE IT WAS!!!!!!!

You guy's have been sleeping or at least the moderators have been. Lets light up the phine line!!!!!!!

jays375 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2011, 03:05:48 AM »

I don't agree with the Sunday hunting.There is alot of things people are over looking with this.Sure for people who don't have alot of time to hunt want it.There is a few things that people don't think about.For one there will probally will be a big increase in liscense fees.The PGC already stated it is going to cost the alot of money to operate the extra days.If this goes through next will be open the season on a Saturday.People complain about the lack of deer,this will affect it even more.Plus alot of private land owners that allow public hunting aren't too happy about it either.They threaten to shut down there property open to the public.There is alot of things to consider more than just getting more time in the field.This is just another way of generating more revenue.They need to get to work doing improvements to public land.It is a shame money generated from natural gas on public land goes right to the general fund.None of it goes into making improvements.We need to look on the big picture and look towards the future.I voiced my opinon and sure it will not be liked by alot of people.

Steelbanger · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2011, 02:59:15 PM »

I sent a message to my representative and stated that I am 100% against Sunday hunting.

jiminpa · « **Reply #3 on:** July 03, 2011, 04:49:17 PM »

i've lived in states that allow sunday hunting and its no big deal. do you remember when stores where not open on sunday in pa? i do!

hornady · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:22:45 AM »

I am all for opening up Hunting on Sunday. As a boy in Pa, I remember all to well the Blue Laws. Why did they end them, Businesses were loosening money.
Just like the PGC is loosening License sales today.
People do not work 9 to 5 Monday thru Friday anymore.
Most people I talk to in Pa, that have given up hunting, they just do not have the time to justify the cost.
Yes a few farmers may post their land, but those would have them posted for some other reason anyway.
Farmer too look at profits, crop damage is a real loss in revenue.
I am retired now so Sunday hunting is no big deal for me. I have all the time I need to hunt. I may only go out 4 of the 6 days a week.
Years ago most had Saturday to hunt, and many would use a weeks vacation the first week of Buck.
Today free time is limited, and most use vacation time to spend with their Families.
As to adding another day to the WCO workweek. They are on call on weekends and an increase in License sales would justify any increased pay expense.
I have heard guys say there would be a seven-day a week slaughter, this sounds like the cry of the left with the passage of HB-40. The streets will run red with blood.
States with Sunday hunting seem to manage quite well.
I just don’t think a guy working hard to provide for his family should be penalized by a tradition or a religious belief.

Bingo · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2011, 04:08:13 AM »

I still have quite a few years before I can retire. I work 8-4:30 5 days a week. That gives me one day to hunt. I have a son and a beagle. Hunting Sunday will double my time in the woods with them.
To steal a que from the left, what happened to the seperation of church and state? I know that statement is not in the constitution but is a catch fraze used by liberals all the time. For once I get to throw it in their faces.
Liscencing and hunters are on the decline in this state for a lot of reasons. The divorce rate limits the time Dads get to spend with their kids. The increase in soccer and weekend sports and the left wing propaganda have all taken their toll on the outdoor sports. The cost of a license and the amount of times you can hunt is a factor too. Hunting on Sunday would make it a better value.
This isn't about rifle deer season and I really don't care if they limit the rifle deer season in some other way. It is the rest of the picture I am looking at. The small game season the ground hog hunting archery season for deer. This is where the time in the woods will pay off in the generations to come.
Call your state reps and support this bill. Don't let the left win another chance to tell you what you as a sportsman and gun owner what you can do and when. It is not a strech to say that. Let the bill get "shot down" and just see if the left wing anti hunting, anti gun nuts don't taunt it as a victory for their side.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2011, 05:55:16 AM »

It's y'all's state and I suppose you can do what you want in it. But no hunting on Sunday sounds ridiculous to me. I will also assume you can't decorate the courthouse for Christmas, how in the heck do you reconcile those two things?

If a day off from hunting were the "real" reason I would petition for it to be moved to Thursday or some other working weekday. No one will be forced to hunt Sunday will they?

manofthe45 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2011, 08:18:32 AM »

Bingo. I am wide awake and very active letting my opinion on the subject be heard in harrisburg. That said sunday hunting ranks up there with AR/HR, crossbows, baiting, in_lines, etc for conflict starting subjects. If I voice my opinions on every subject it allows those in opposition to claim bias if they cross the line and a post needs edited. Easier to just do what I do and stay in the background here

BCB · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2011, 01:12:13 PM »

Well, I must say that I am against it also…

I have a piece of property that I have a small cabin on and it is my relaxation place on my days off—Sunday is one of those days…

There is unrestricted hunting on my property and the adjoining pieces. But, with Sunday hunting, it might become a bit bothersome—I don’t know…

I worked on surface coal mines during my years of employment and they don’t even begin to know what 40 hours per week are…

I got time to hunt, maybe not as much as I wanted to, but I had responsibilities. The pressure is somewhat off now though…

Ones responsibilities should be considered first, and if one wishes to not sacrifice a bit because of life’s situations (many are caused by the individual), then I shouldn’t have to be inconvenienced by people who wish to hunt on Sundays…

Or, maybe they should allow Sunday hunting on your own property? Then, I wouldn’t care either way. Don’t really care about Sunday hunting on game lands either as I have never used them one way or the other…

And, that is what I will be letting my reps. or senators, or whoever needs to know this to make the decision in Harrisburg…

As we grow older, there may be a bit more to life then hunting everyday, at least that is the case with me…

Still to those who hope for Sunday hunting—good-luck with your efforts…

BCB

hornady · « **Reply #9 on:** July 14, 2011, 02:54:03 AM »

As I said I really don’t have a horse in this race one way or the other.
Retired but something I think many are over looking, for years I hunted on Sundays and still can legally.

Crows, fox, and coyotes can be hunted on Sunday. Granted most do not take advantage of these opportunities.
How ever coyote hunting has become very popular over the last few years in many areas.

And as for the tranquility of Sundays, I live in the country; I have two trap ranges close to me, from 10am to 8pm Saturday and Sunday, I hear continues gunshots. I also have several neighbors with home ranges that do a lot of shooting on Sundays.

And as to the giving game a day of rest, when younger I trapped. Which is also legal on Sundays. Over the years I kicked up a lot of game checking trap line.

And how many guys that have no other day but Sunday use it for scouting.

Bigeasy · « **Reply #10 on:** July 14, 2011, 05:00:57 AM »

Well, the selfish part of me says, "I'm retired, and can hunt anytime I want, and besides that way I can enjoy a day in the woods running my camera without having to worry about folks in the woods hunting getting in the way".

The sensible part of me says, "Hunting, in this state, like a lot of states, is a dying tradition, and anytime someone can get to spend some valuable free time in the woods, passing the tradition on to the younger generation is important to the sport, and maybe I shouldn't be so concerned with my selfish priorities".

So yea, I favor Sunday hunting....

Larry

Casull · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2011, 08:21:18 AM »

A ban on Sunday hunting just seems wrong on so many levels. As a recent transplant to one of those few states still holding onto this vestige of the blue laws, I can say that it is the only thing I've found thus far where Illinois is better than Virginia.

jays375 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2011, 03:45:55 PM »

If this was being done for the hunters it would be a different story.It is nothing more than trying to create more revenue.Maybe some of you are fortunate to have a large deer heard.Were I live the hunting pressure is high.This year more than past years I have noticed the lack of fawns.The other night there were about 10 does in a big field.Not one fawn was with them.Plus you hardly see a set of twins.As far as kids go less and less want to go out hunting because they see nothing.Which alot of the mentors never bother with completing hunter education.We should be pushing for improving habitat.You have to look past getting extra days and think about the future.With the lack of hunters also comes the lack of interest in firearms.So people don't pay much attention to what laws are trying to be passed.Which is a way of anti-gunners to move in also.That could even be a scarier thing to think about.

BCB · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2011, 04:22:57 PM »

Quote from: jays375 on July 14, 2011, 03:45:55 PM

If this was being done for the hunters it would be a different story.It is nothing more than trying to create more revenue.Maybe some of you are fortunate to have a large deer heard.Were I live the hunting pressure is high.This year more than past years I have noticed the lack of fawns.The other night there were about 10 does in a big field.Not one fawn was with them.Plus you hardly see a set of twins.As far as kids go less and less want to go out hunting because they see nothing.Which alot of the mentors never bother with completing hunter education.We should be pushing for improving habitat.You have to look past getting extra days and think about the future.With the lack of hunters also comes the lack of interest in firearms.So people don't pay much attention to what laws are trying to be passed.Which is a way of anti-gunners to move in also.That could even be a scarier thing to think about.

Yep, I agree 100% with those thoughts...

The Commish is in desperate mode...

If it is to be, let it be on one's own property or Game Lands...

When I say "one's own land" that is what I mean. Because if some big land person wants Sunday hunting--get ready to pay the price...

Ain't going the route of Sunday hunting. As I said, I worked long hours in coal related jobs and I still shot lots of deer and lots of small game...

And so it goes...

BCB

Casull · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2011, 05:41:09 PM »

The vast majority of states allow Sunday hunting and don't have any problems with it. It's nothing but religious vestige. Kind of like dry counties.

BCB · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:42:23 AM »

Quote from: Casull on July 14, 2011, 05:41:09 PM

The vast majority of states allow Sunday hunting and don't have any problems with it. It's nothing but religious vestige. Kind of like dry counties.

Sure ain't religious vestige that makes me be against it. That I can guarantee 100%...

And, if any of the "Bible Belt" states have Sunday hunting, well that ends the religious thought as to why states don't allow or want hunting on Sunday...

BCB

Steelbanger · « **Reply #16 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:54:40 AM »

The local paper here runs a survey question every week and last week asked about Sunday hunting. I don't have that paper in front of me here but the result of the survey showed something like 57% opposed and 43% in favor of Sunday hunting. Not one of those that made comments cited religion as their reason. Most mentioned hiking and not wanting hunters in their hiking areas.

Swampman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:19:11 AM »

I hunt on Sunday, but I'd vote against it if given the chance.

Casull · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:56:38 AM »

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And, if any of the "Bible Belt" states have Sunday hunting, well that ends the religious thought as to why states don't allow or want hunting on Sunday...

No more than saying that if there are any "wet" counties in any of the "Bible Belt" states that ends the religious thought as to why we have some "dry" counties.

tcencore3006 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:39:08 AM »

I live in a state where you can hunt on Sundays. I can honestly say that I have only ever hunted once on a Sunday.

Bingo · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2011, 02:13:43 AM »

so far the nay sayers have narrowed the game argument to deer. Like I said I have a kid that likes to hunt and a beagle. I would love to spend more time chasing rabbits with both of them. The season is only a few months and one day a week for what it costs me in licensing and general dog up keep stinks when you only get to hunt about 20 days out of the year.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #21 on:** July 17, 2011, 07:14:31 AM »

Let me get this right. You do not have to hunt on Sunday, but could if you wished? Nobody forceing you? Sorta like carrying a pistol? You don't have to but if you want to it is okay. Traditionally folks haven't been allowed to carry concealed. Heck of a lot of people see no reason for you to be carrying.

Bemoaning hunter recruitment while at the same time limiting opportunities. Since there are "blue laws" some folks have to do 7 days of work in 6 meaning Saturday is full up. I was / am one of those fellas. A goodly portion of my venison came home on Sunday afternoon.

Remember the rights of the few should not be trampled on by the rights of the many.

BCB · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:59:50 AM »

This “Sunday Hunting” debate we never be resolved as you can never get everyone to agree to it or against it…

Nope, if it passes, no one will force a person to hunt on Sunday. That isn’t even what the debate is about…

The “Right to Carry”. That is a completely different thing altogether. You can carry concealed past me all day long and it doesn’t disturb me or anyone else at all. I’ve had a concealed carry permit since 1970 and never did I ever interrupt anyone’s life, be it Weekdays or Sunday…

Hunting is a privilege and not a right. Driving a vehicle is also a privilege and not a right. So, by saying the “rights of others” are being trampled on is not a true statement…

Another poster indicated that he wanted more time to hunt rabbits with his son. All well and good. But, by accepting the responsibility that comes with raising a family, working for a living is part of that. Sometimes the hobbies and “good times” take a backseat to the required “working for a living”…

I also had beagles and when I had them, the seasons were even shorter than today. If I looked in some of my old albums, I could find pictures of a dozen or so rabbits with a couple of hunters standing with them. And, we all worked—sometimes 6 days a week, but we did manage to get a day or so of hunting together. Other days, well, we maybe had to hunt by ourselves as the others had to work…

I honestly don’t know if Sunday hunting would cause me problems at several pieces of properties that I own. It’s open for the locals to hunt and I don’t have problems. Don’t know if Sunday would become an issue or not…

Just the way it is…

Hopefully, I will be retired very shortly and this won’t be an issue to me one way or the other. But remember, I put in my disappointing days at work when I wished I could have been hunting or for that matter, other hobbies…

Life is full of responsibilities isn’t it? And part of those responsibilities is consideration for others—but that’s another subject...

Good-luck…BCB

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #23 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:26:09 AM »

It, hunting, may well be a privelege. I believe I would work on making it a right though. About the time you lose your voting block you may also lose your privelege.

Hard to believe but Colorado, a state largely discovered by trappers, has all but eliminated trapping. Pray the Californios don't decide your state looks ripe for plunder.

As in my first response, it is your state to do with what you wish. My opinion is just that, my opinion.

BCB · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2011, 01:54:18 PM »

Quote from: Empty Quiver on July 18, 2011, 11:26:09 AM

It, hunting, may well be a privelege. I believe I would work on making it a right though. About the time you lose your voting block you may also lose your privelege.

Hard to believe but Colorado, a state largely discovered by trappers, has all but eliminated trapping. Pray the Californios don't decide your state looks ripe for plunder.

As in my first response, it is your state to do with what you wish. My opinion is just that, my opinion.

Empty Quiver…

Since hunting is not a “right” then it certainly could be considered a “heritage” that this country was based upon…

And I think “heritage” and “right” can be considered close when it comes to hunting…

I sure don’t want to see hunting or trapping greatly hinder, or ever eliminated, as you indicate might happen as did trapping in Colorado…

I guess the question becomes: How far do we go with new laws or privileges to not allow this to happen?...

I don’t know…

And, as I have stated, Sunday hunting probably might not bother me as hunting takes place, mostly, during the colder months and the time I spend at my cabin is less during this time of year…

But, I think we must think of others who might be interrupted by Sunday hunting…

Just an opinion again…

BCB

manofthe45 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 18, 2011, 04:09:38 PM »

I will say this I am very happy to see the involvemnet of eveyone here. Hard to keep heavy traffic going here

fastchicken · « **Reply #26 on:** July 26, 2011, 06:47:07 AM »

Quote from: jays375 on July 03, 2011, 03:05:48 AM

there will probally will be a big increase in liscense fees.The PGC already stated it is going to cost the alot of money to operate the extra days. Plus alot of private land owners that allow public hunting aren't too happy about it either.They threaten to shut down there property open to the public.

Quote from: BCB on July 11, 2011, 01:12:13 PM

There is unrestricted hunting on my property and the adjoining pieces. But, with Sunday hunting, it might become a bit bothersome—I don’t know…

You guys must have some weird game laws up there. How in the world will hunting on Sunday cost more, do you pay by the day or something? And what's the talk about the extra people hunting on someone's private land, does your state dictate to private landowners who and when someone can be on your land? Can't a private property owner just not let people on their land? Sounds communist to me

BCB · « **Reply #27 on:** July 26, 2011, 09:10:30 AM »

fastchicken,

I guess when I said “unrestricted” hunting on my property it could have been interpreted that I have no control...

We do have control and I don’t restrict hunting on my property…

My scenario is that if I don’t allow hunting on my property on Sundays and all of my surrounding neighbors do, I will still have the disturbances, somewhat…

Plus, although it is private property, many hunters will enter if they don’t see “No Hunting” posters…

As a matter fact, there are many hunters who believe that if the land is not posted, it is allowed to be hunted…

And they sincerely believe that concept…

(Hell, I don’t know—maybe that is true?)…

Oh well, I guess the debate will go on, until the decision is actually made one way or the other…

BCB

fastchicken · « **Reply #28 on:** July 26, 2011, 09:40:17 AM »

Don't restrict hunting on your property, WOW! You can't find anyone who doesn't restrict it here in Mo. At least I've never heard of anyone who doesn't. Unless you consider leasing as unrestricted.

BCB · « **Reply #29 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:04:58 AM »

Well, unfortunately it’s headed that way in this State also…

Much of the property is posted now…

It is slowly beginning to close in on my property and a few others…

95% of those who do hunt it are locals and we basically have know each other our entire lives—and that is a good many years…

But, I think that will end with another dozen of fewer years…

BCB