Author Topic: Killer cannon/grenade (Read 5894 times)

KABAR2 · « **on:** July 04, 2011, 03:28:59 PM »

This is an auction ad listing a "cannon" it actually is a grenade waiting for that odd day
when someone over loads it to kill or maim........ we read about these all the time after the fact
here is one just waiting...... the owner posted his phone number in the auction I am calling him
and asking him to destroy this thing before he has a lawsuit on his hands and the memory of either killing or maiming someone.

"This is a very nice black powder naval signal cannon made in the likeness of a ships deck cannon in the era of sail. The cannon has a 13 inch steel barrel with a brass sleeve. The cannon has a 3/4 inch diameter bore. The piece is 6 inches hub to hub and 5 inches in height. The cannon weighs approximately 5 pounds. This cannon is mounted on a wood platform with wooden wheels in the spirit of old naval cannons. The barrel has been threaded and sealed professionally. I have fired this cannon and it is the loudest signal cannon we have had! While this cannon does make an extremely loud noise it is not meant for firing projectiles. This piece comes with two feet of fuse and a ramrod."

KABAR2 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 04, 2011, 03:38:44 PM »

Well I called the number and got the answering machine, I left a message
I hope he hears me.

subdjoe · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2011, 03:50:32 PM »

Even his idea of "very nice" is hard to credit. Looks like something a somewhat below averagely talented 6th grader would cobble together from parts found in the garage.

Good that you found it and took the time to call.

flagman1776 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2011, 03:55:26 PM »

OMG!! Speachless.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2011, 05:05:47 PM »

A prime example of a BOMB!

The only reason mine didn't explode (the one's I made in H.S.) was that I was using crude home-made blackpowder.

The auction house should be warned!

armorer77 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2011, 05:30:12 PM »

THIS IS JUST BAD , VERY BAD . I look back at some things I did back when , and I would not have shot this without a bunker . Profesionally sealed breach . What does that mean , he used tape or what . Armorer77

Mike H. · « **Reply #6 on:** July 04, 2011, 05:44:56 PM »

He sells that crap on eBay all the time. A lot of times it is copper pipe and fittings. Same guy every time.

"This piece comes with two feet of fuse and a ramrod..." so you can blow yourself up even quicker!

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #7 on:** July 04, 2011, 06:04:41 PM »

He describes that everything is made "in the spirit of". Methinks he was hitting the spririts while making it. Lets see here: It's not made to shoot a projo. Wanna bet that whoever buys one of these is going want to stuff it with powder and ball and make a big noise. Yupper, it's a bomb waiting to happen!!!!!

Hope he takes the auction down.

DaveSB · « **Reply #8 on:** July 04, 2011, 06:47:34 PM »

I almost wonder if it wouldn't be worth someone purchasing it to prevent it from falling into anyones hands. However, it may promote him to make more.... good luck on convincing him not to sell.... seriously

keith44 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2011, 07:15:19 PM »

looks like a pipe bomb to me. Where's this idiot located?

GGaskill · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2011, 07:35:34 PM »

Professionally sealed breach.

Must mean it was made by a plumber.

subdjoe · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2011, 07:49:49 PM »

Quote from: DaveSB on July 04, 2011, 06:47:34 PM

I almost wonder if it wouldn't be worth someone purchasing it to prevent it from falling into anyones hands. However, it may promote him to make more.... good luck on convincing him not to sell.... seriously

It would almost be worth it to buy it, arrange a small, um, malfunction with a minor injury so you could sue eBay for allowing garbage like this to be sold through them. Almost.

KABAR2 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 04, 2011, 08:35:37 PM »

Well I am hoping he will do the right thing the next step is the auction site
the reason I am trying to do this with the seller is every time stuff like this
happens they decide that they must lawyer up and make things safer for everyone
so next there will be no signal cannon on the auction site...... I hope he pulls it.

Update I had the auction in my watch list and he ended it. score one for US!

dittles · « **Reply #13 on:** July 04, 2011, 08:54:05 PM »

I think you guys are being a little too hard on this guy. That there is some fine 8th grade engineering

! I built something like that back in my 8th grade shop class, with out my shop teacher knowing about it. I took it to a buddy's house and we opened up some shotgun shells to get to the powder and used a fishing weight for a projectile. We had a long fuse in it and after we lit the thing we ran and hid behind the barn. Thank God we did for after about the 5th shot she blew up! This guy is a real class act! KABAR2 I hope he does!

dittles · « **Reply #14 on:** July 04, 2011, 08:55:21 PM »

Sorry KABAR2, I missed your update. My bad.

oltom · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:22:14 AM »

lead pipe cannon?

??

ahahahah! did one too!!!!!!we were 6th graders, and we used the pellets from the shotgunshell as projectiles...and shot my buddies mom's catus gardens!...shot it till we ran out of the 'pillferd' 12ga shells!

ours never blew up......we must of been better 'professionals" than we thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BoomLover · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:49:16 AM »

I have had one in my hands made very much like this, except...no carriage, instead, it was mounted on a frame and designed to be put in gopher tunnels, with a hair trigger...to kill gophers, of course. Problem was, out of the tunnel, it looked so interesting that people wanted to shoot it to see how it worked! Not good! I told the owner how truly dangerous that thing was, but to my knowledge, he never disassembled it. It was about 15 years old at the time, had been used a number of times, and I'm pretty sure it could rupture or explode with only a few more usages.... $:-\$ BoomLover

rmagill · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:13:00 PM »

Good old 12 gauge shells, they were the source of components for most of my young experiments. A seemingly huge pile of powder and shot all in one neat package. It's amazing my fingers survived my childhood. That guys "cannon" is way more high tech than anything my friends and I ever had in our arsenals. We were lucky to never had a serious accident.
Bob

1swampthing · « **Reply #18 on:** July 06, 2011, 11:13:36 AM »

Out of curiosity, how much was the seller asking for this "cannon"? It could possibly make a great birthday gift for my mother in law. ;-)

keith44 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2011, 07:56:12 AM »

Quote from: 1swampthing on July 06, 2011, 11:13:36 AM

Out of curiosity, how much was the seller asking for this "cannon"? It could possibly make a great birthday gift for my mother in law. ;-)

You are sooo bad!!

Rayfan87 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2011, 09:24:43 AM »

I think this guy has a series of bombs. Look what I found today.

Mod note: Link auction links not allowed on GBO- link deleted

KABAR2 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2011, 10:39:28 AM »

Yep that's him I didn't bother to call him this time I sent in a report to ebay.
enough is enough.

Mike H. · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2011, 10:41:06 AM »

Yes he does. And has had several previously. We have actually discussed his work previously on here, and somebody even contacted him then too.

GGaskill · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2011, 11:05:22 AM »

Someone needs to buy one of his creations, overload it to the point of failure and then sue him so he gets the idea.

KABAR2 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2011, 11:27:38 AM »

Sadly if someone did his lawyers would point to this thread and yell conspircy.....that is the problem with the written word on the internet.....

keith44 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2011, 12:28:54 PM »

I'll be sending a nastygram to ebay when I get home from work tonight

GGaskill · « **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2011, 02:07:53 PM »

Sadly if someone did his lawyers would point to this thread and yell conspiracy.....that is the problem with the written word on the internet.....

I certainly couldn't be the buyer because I have too much knowledge of the product, but someone else who doesn't post here could do it. But even if he won the suit, his legal fees should get his attention.

Cannoneer · « **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2011, 02:26:41 PM »

Quote from: Mike H. on July 08, 2011, 10:41:06 AM

Yes he does. And has had several previously. We have actually discussed his work previously on here, and somebody even contacted him then too.

Mike is right, it was Forward Observer that originally brought this indivdual to our attention.
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,226609.msg1099253871.html#msg1099253871
He contacted this seller and the person did the same thing he did with KABAR, he pulled the item, waited for a period of time, and then relisted it. In my opinion this person is not going to stop selling these "future accidents" until someone or something forces him to. Ebay's policy prohibits the sale of anything that goes boom using gunpowder, so all that is necessary is to calmly contact ebay with this seller's name and the item number of the bomb he's currently selling, and report him. IIRC the second offense results in being suspended for a given length of time, and the third can result in being permanently banned. I contacted ebay directly back then, and Kabar did the same now, so let's see what happens. The reason I'm suggesting to do this in a cool, calm, and collected manner is because I don't want to provide the liberal owners of ebay with any ammunition that could in any way help them with their anti-gun agenda.

FFFg · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2011, 05:04:40 PM »

Thing to do here is for multiple people to email him letting him know that his unsafe garbage has been called to his attention and it is known that he still continues to offer said junk for sale. The basis of any future legal liability will stem on him knowing that a potential unsafe condition may have existed. Ebay's little inteligence cup overflows, it is beyond their means to figure him and his junk out. This is going to result in all cannon, cannon look a likes, toys etc. being banned from their site.

Mike H. · « **Reply #29 on:** July 09, 2011, 02:39:25 AM »

Quote from: GGaskill on July 08, 2011, 11:05:22 AM

Someone needs to buy one of his creations, overload it to the point of failure and then sue him so he gets the idea.

How bout we buy one, shoot it to failure safely from a bunker, photograph the end result and send that to eBay. Considering their new policy, we'd even likely get our money back. A picture is worth 1000 emails.