Author Topic: Mass school children learn to pray to allah on school field trip to mosque. (Read 1775 times)

powderman · « **on:** July 06, 2011, 06:15:05 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-I9Qp3d4Y&feature=player_embedded

Wake up people, they live among us. Long video but very informative. This is how they make converts with the help of the liberals. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2011, 09:45:29 AM »

This is but one way these scum recruit. In the schools, start training the minds of the children, kinda like the homosexuals are doing too. My former neice has her 4 yr old saying he wants to grow up to be a jihadist for allah. They are perverting the minds of the children all over the world. Sad, very sad. POWDERMAN.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2011, 10:18:39 AM »

Well... sounds kind of like if they'd gone to a Catholic church, and some of the kids listened in to the sermon, and maybe even took the Lord's Supper. IF THEY'D DONE THAT... that might have been 'outside the rules' for school activities, I don't know (not my area of expertise).

"I was shaking as I saw one of the Jewish boys praying!"
Well, I think that Jewish boy will still be Jewish, and probably recover from this traumatic experience of... hanging out with Muslims.

So far as proseletyzing goes... don't we have Christians groups that have access to schoolkids?

yo, brothah... whattup wit' dem PANTS?!?

BBF · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2011, 11:43:40 AM »

I would have thought those visits would require parental permission.

XD40SC · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2011, 01:18:26 PM »

I really question how a short exposure to something like that will over ride years of guidance from parents and religious education. If a short exposure is that effective, think how effective years of parental and religious education has on children. If the question is asked of you- would your child be swayed by that ?- many of you would answer a definitive NO, I have brought them up better than that. That is exactly the point. Fear not.

powderman · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2011, 04:59:59 PM »

XD40. Mine swayed?? No. But there are many without any spiritual upbringing or guidance in the schools who will be swayed. That is who they are going after. Get them before they are old enought to know what a cancer islam really is. I doubt whether 1/3 of the kids in the city schools go to church at all. Young minds absorb a lot. Did you read the lies about womens rights?? POWDERMAN.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:40:54 AM »

It is not whether they would be swayed or not. It is the double standard of if they were forced to go to a Christian worship, the liberal parasites would be taking this to court.

powderman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2011, 10:13:30 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on July 09, 2011, 07:40:54 AM

It is not whether they would be swayed or not. It is the double standard of if they were forced to go to a Christian worship, the liberal parasites would be taking this to court.

You bet they would and the teachers would have complained first. POWDERMAN.

XD40SC · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2011, 11:53:33 AM »

Quote from: powderman on July 09, 2011, 10:13:30 AM

Quote from: billy_56081 on July 09, 2011, 07:40:54 AM
It is not whether they would be swayed or not. It is the double standard of if they were forced to go to a Christian worship, the liberal parasites would be taking this to court.
I think education would be much better without teachers. Everyone should be homeschooled. Seriously, than the parents would only have themselves to praise or blame for how their kids turned out. Although they would find something to blame their childs failure on if they didn't succeed. Some people just live to complain and blame. The shame and blame continues.

You bet they would and the teachers would have complained first. POWDERMAN.

If everyone were home schooled, the only teachers would be the parents. Read my first sentence.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2011, 11:57:21 AM »

It would be better if the teachers were teaching reading, writing and arithmetic rather than trying to promote the parasite agenda.

lakota · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2011, 03:44:13 PM »

Seperation of church and state= seperation of ALL CHURCHES and state. Seperation of church and state is not a buffet and you liberals cant pick and choose the churches you want to be seperate and those you dont. All or none.

crustylicious · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2011, 04:08:23 PM »

Wonder if any of these kids have become terrorists?
Sixth graders at the Wellesley Middle School take a course on "Enduring Beliefs and the World Today." The course includes study of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism. According to the school superintendent "each teaching unit is developed similarly for consistency of presentation with the following construct: Stories of Origin and Important People (Early History), Core Beliefs, Holy Writings, Symbols & Objects, Holy Places & Places of Worship, Rituals & Rites of Passage, and Celebrations & Holidays." Students visit a mosque and a synagogue, attend a Gospel concert, and meet with a Hindu group.
http://healthcareorganizationalethics.blogspot.com/2010/09/wellesley-students-visit-mosque.html
Wait! it looks like a set up by some "activist"" group
http://blogs.wickedlocal.com/newton/2010/09/20/newton-activist-behind-controversial-video-of-wellesley-kids-preying-at-local-mosque/comment-page-1/#axzz1ReweqPzf
Wonder who really sent the kids up there?
In any case this happened over a year ago. Must be a slow day for our resident propaganda machine

lakota · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2011, 06:11:29 PM »

How about public schools quit pushing religion all together?

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2011, 06:28:37 PM »

Quote from: lakota on July 09, 2011, 06:11:29 PM

How about public schools quit pushing religion all together?

RE the mosque visit, sounds like they were teaching about it, rather than pushing it. Seems to me that's worth doing; otherwise the kids will get info from other sources - maybe even here, then they'll think Muslims are... godless, or satan's disciples, or some other foolishness... .

Bernard Lewis would agree with me on this!

powderman · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:05:15 PM »

yellow. They are. POWDERMAN.

lakota · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:27:15 PM »

The responsibilty of the public schools is to teach reading writing and arithmetic and not Islam to its students. Sorry religion isnt one of the "three R's" A thorough knowledge of islam or any other religion isnt going to help a public school grad find a job.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:32:29 PM »

Quote from: lakota on July 09, 2011, 07:27:15 PM

The responsibilty of the public schools is to teach reading writing and arithmetic and not Islam to its students. Sorry religion isnt one of the "three R's" A thorough knowledge of islam or any other religion isnt going to help a public school grad find a job.

I disagree. Having some understanding of history, religions, and culture is valuable.

lakota · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:35:27 PM »

Valuable in the field of humanities perhaps but utterly worthless in the field of sciences where there are actually real jobs available.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2011, 08:52:33 PM »

Quote from: lakota on July 09, 2011, 07:35:27 PM

Valuable in the field of humanities perhaps but utterly worthless in the field of sciences where there are actually real jobs available.

A lot more than worthless to inform/make an educated citizen, which is what we'd like, right?

Not that I've any probs w/hard sciences.

lakota · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2011, 06:53:59 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 09, 2011, 08:52:33 PM

Quote from: lakota on July 09, 2011, 07:35:27 PM
Valuable in the field of humanities perhaps but utterly worthless in the field of sciences where there are actually real jobs available.

A lot more than worthless to inform/make an educated citizen, which is what we'd like, right?

Not that I've any probs w/hard sciences.

Oh yeah you got me-I would have never been able to comprehend DNA/RNA base pairing sequences without a knowledge of islam. Any type of religious indoctrination does not make an "informed/educated" citizen.

Quote from: XD40SC on July 08, 2011, 01:18:26 PM

I really question how a short exposure to something like that will over ride years of guidance from parents and religious education. If a short exposure is that effective, think how effective years of parental and religious education has on children. If the question is asked of you- would your child be swayed by that ?- many of you would answer a definitive NO, I have brought them up better than that. That is exactly the point. Fear not.

I really question how you fail to see a problem with this. Number one it is hypocritical and yet another example of the double standards practiced by the left. Surely you must know that had this been a field trip to a christian church there would have been a been a media feeding frenzy over it and probably even ACLU action against it. Number two: At about 2 and a half minutes into the video I see school children participating in midday prayers-even a leftist cant miss it the narrator makes it perfectly clear. Whats the problem with this? Well these children were on public school time and I distinctly remember that:
"In the United States, public schools are banned from conducting religious observances such as prayer. The legal basis for this prohibition is the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which requires that. "(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_prayer) No school prayer means no school prayer which also means NO MUSLIM PRAYERS TOO. See my post:

Quote from: lakota on July 09, 2011, 03:44:13 PM

Seperation of church and state= seperation of ALL CHURCHES and state. Seperation of church and state is not a buffet and you liberals cant pick and choose the churches you want to be seperate and those you dont. All or none.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:05:38 AM »

Quote from: lakota on July 10, 2011, 06:53:59 AM

Oh yeah you got me-I would have never been able to comprehend DNA/RNA base pairing sequences without a knowledge of islam.

I think I'll just leave that one there as the Strawman of the Day.

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Any type of religious indoctrination does not make an "informed/educated" citizen.

Do you see a place for education, as opposed to indoctrination? Do you think there is a difference?

lakota · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:14:16 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 10, 2011, 09:05:38 AM

Quote from: lakota on July 10, 2011, 06:53:59 AM
Oh yeah you got me-I would have never been able to comprehend DNA/RNA base pairing sequences without a knowledge of islam.
I think I'll just leave that one there as the Strawman of the Day.

Or you could just admit that it is wrong for a public school to force feed religion to its students...

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:17:27 AM »

nothing to 'admit' unless we're on a gameshow.

There's place for learning about diff religions in education, or there ought to be. I can understand how some would want zero education on the subject, as that education might disagree with someone's dogma. That's unfortunate, and a little bit of a problem.

lakota · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:18:48 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 10, 2011, 09:05:38 AM

Do you see a place for education, as opposed to indoctrination? Do you think there is a difference?

It is not the role of public schools to "educate" its students on matters of religion-any religion.

lakota · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:21:46 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 10, 2011, 09:17:27 AM

nothing to 'admit' unless we're on a gameshow.

There's place for learning about diff religions in education, or there ought to be. I can understand how some would want zero education on the subject, as that education might disagree with someone's dogma. That's unfortunate, and a little bit of a problem.

Yes there is a place for that but that place is not in the public schools. Remember-Seperation of Church and State.

beerbelly · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2011, 01:47:29 PM »

You must remember that with folks like yellowtail, if it is foreign it is good if it is American it is bad!

XD40SC · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2011, 04:19:48 PM »

It might be taught in a class called comparative religions. If it's an elective and students choose it, I see nothing wrong with teaching religions of the world and showing their similarities and differences. No difference than comparing Capitalism, Socialism, Fascism and Communism.

powderman · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2011, 04:48:40 PM »

XD40. Problem is they would never teach the truth about islam. POWDERMAN.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:38:03 AM »

Quote from: XD40SC on July 12, 2011, 04:19:48 PM

It might be taught in a class called comparative religions. If it's an elective and students choose it, I see nothing wrong with teaching religions of the world and showing their similarities and differences. No difference than comparing Capitalism, Socialism, Fascism and Communism.

SO if being an elective is the key could public schools have a class that delt with Christianity?

gypsyman · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2011, 03:13:11 AM »

Please remember, it's not only ok, it's promoted by the muslim religion, to lie to push their agenda. Hopefully, the parents of these students sat down and told them the truth. Women had more rights in the 7th century than what they had here 1200 years later. What a crock of bull. I lay the blame on school administrators. Somebody ought to be fired for this incident. gypsyman